Riot for Votes, the politicization of bloodshed.

[Dillinger]

Riots controlled in 3-4 days

Controlled were they? What was the casualty count pray tell- who expressly started it, which party's leader would go on to hold positions and avoid arrest or punishment on the matter till date. DO NOT cover up the heinous deeds of those whom you support if you shall comment upon the misdeeds of those you oppose. Shall we now move on to the Nellie massacre under Hiteshwar Saikia's mandate and the fact that the Tiwari commission report is still a closely guarded secret?

 

[Guynextdoor2]

Ever heard of the term "unreliable witness", its a legal term- ask your neighborhood lawyer. No he wouldn't be hanged if his accuser was a known serial killer himself- his testimony would not be legally tenable. Any lawyer worth his salt would butcher him on the stand.

You really are avoiding the question isn't it? Forget congress or anyone else, since your question is shouldn't 2002 be forgotten- nope. That is the law...EVERYWHERE.

 

[Dillinger]

You really are avoiding the question isn't it? Forget congress or anyone else, since your question is shouldn't 2002 be forgotten- nope. That is the law...EVERYWHERE.

Then neither should the 84 riots and the Congress should be held responsible for it and considered to be completely unfit to run the country much like you view Modi. That can be the ONLY answer. After all the Law IS impartial, no?

 

[Guynextdoor2]

Then neither should the 84 riots and the Congress should be held responsible for it and considered to be completely unfit to run the country much like you view Modi. That can be the ONLY answer. After all the Law IS impartial, no?

I'm not talking about congress or BSP or whatever- people get to vote, people are the judge. Even if 10 times it has failed before, you can't take the line that it should therefore fail a 11th. You're obfuscating because you know what the answer is.

 

[saurav]

Riots controlled in 3-4 days

riots controlled in 3-4 days..? Whats next..? Bhagalpur riots did not gather momentum after Rajiv Gandhi advised police to go slow..?

Congressis really have no shame..

 

[Dillinger]

I'm not talking about congress or BSP or whatever- people get to vote, people are the judge. Even if 10 times it has failed before, you can't take the line that it should therefore fail a 11th. You're obfuscating because you know what the answer is.

Not obfuscating at all. You are trying to be selective because you know what the answer is. The law is impartial and treats all equally, as such If the BJP is unfit due to the riots in Gujarat then so is the Congress due to Nellie and 84 among many others. You don't get to pick different standards for different people and parties. IF Modi hangs then those responsible for 84 must also hang. You're not going to find me disagreeing to that in any manner whatsoever- proven guilt? Punish them. But I am rather allergic to selective amnesia and hypocrisy.

 

[Guynextdoor2]

Not obfuscating at all. You are trying to be selective because you know what the answer is. The law is impartial and treats all equally, as such If the BJP is unfit due to the riots in Gujarat then so is the Congress due to Nellie and 84 among many others. You don't get to pick different standards for different people and parties. IF Modi hangs then those responsible for 84 must also hang. You're not going to find me disagreeing to that in any manner whatsoever- proven guilt? Punish them. But I am rather allergic to selective amnesia and hypocrisy.

No- again I'm not talking about congress, BJP, SP or Modi. It is a generic question, forget political parties etc. Real Albert Einstin (PBUH, I think he was a true prophet too) is identified a serial killer. He is brought before a fair jury- does he hand or no. Instead of rambling- yes or no.

 

[Dillinger]

No- again I'm not talking about congress, BJP, SP or Modi. It is a generic question, forget political parties etc. Real Albert Einstin (PBUH, I think he was a true prophet too) is identified a serial killer. He is brought before a fair jury- does he hand or no. Instead of rambling- yes or no.

Any criminal proven guilty of homicide or murder would be punished as per the law- which can include hanging. Doesn't really help you though- since you can't prove anything.

 

[Guynextdoor2]

Any criminal proven guilty of homicide or murder would be punished as per the law- which can include hanging. Doesn't really help you though- since you can't prove anything.

and does the same apply if miscarriage of justice has happened in 10 previous occasions?

 

[Dillinger]

and does the same apply if miscarriage of justice has happened in 10 previous occasions?

Not in the least, and yet considering said previous cases were either never brought to court or quashed- it would behoove any right minded person to demand justice for them too or be rightly termed a biased individual.

 

[Guynextdoor2]

Not in the least, and yet considering said previous cases were either never brought to court or quashed- it would behoove any right minded person to demand justice for them too or be rightly termed a biased individual.

So it does not apply? (You are free to appeal etc. in your own time)

 

[Dillinger]

So it does not apply? (You are free to appeal etc. in your own time)

Ah so your ire is reserved for one person alone while the party you support can get away with anything- not a word of condemnation there? How convenient. Too bad your target got away.

 

[Tshering22]

Riots controlled in 3-4 days

Ahm.. Deaths? Casualties? Any statistics?

That doesn't come out because everything was censored in Indira era and you cannot deny that even for the sake of an argument.

2002: Army called within 2 days. Flag march started and riots quietened.

Now let's begin from the first:

1947: Riots in WB. 10,000 KILLED (alleged, actual figures unknown because of censor era).

1969: Communal riots in Ahmedabad | More than 512 Killed in the city. 3000 to 15000 range in the entire state | Riots for 6 months | Ruling party happened to be Congress

Oct 1984: | Communal riots in Delhi | 2733 Killed | Ruling party Congress | Almost 100% casualty were Sikhs, which makes this a Rajiv Gandhi led genocide on India's minorities | Followed by “Big Tree falls” justification too from the Prime Minister!

Feb 1983: | Communal violence in Nellie, Assam | 2000-5000 killed | PM – Indira Gandhi (Congress party) - India's worst slaughter of Muslims in any single riot (just 6 HOURS)

1964: Communal riots in Rourkela & Jamshedpur | 2000 Killed | Ruling party Congress

August 1980: Moradabad Communal riots | Approx 2000 Killed | Ruling Party Congress

October 1989: Bhagalpur, Bihar riots | 800 to 2000 killed | Ruling party Congress

Dec 1992 - Jan 1993: | Mumbai, Maharashtra riots | 800 to 2000 killed | Ruling party Congress

April 1985: Communal riots in Ahmedabad, Gujarat | At least 300 Killed | Ruling party Congress

Dec 1992: Aligarh, UP | At least 176 killed | Ruling party Congress (President's rule)

December 1992: | Surat, Gujarat | At least 175 killed | Ruling party Congress

December 1990: | Hyderabad, AP | At least 132 killed | Ruling party Congress

August 1967: | 200 Killed | Communal riots in Ranchi | Party ruling again Congress

April 1979: | Communal riots in Jamshedpur, West Bengal | More than 125 killed | Ruling party CPIM (Communist Party)

1970: | Bhiwandi communal riots in Maharashtra | Around 80 killed | Ruling party Congress

May 1984: | Communal riots in Bhiwandi | 146 Killed, 611 Inj | Ruling party Congress | CM – Vasandada Patil

Apr-May 1987: | Communal violence in Meerut, UP | 81 killed | Ruling party Congress

July 1986: | Communal violence in Ahmedabad, Gujarat | 59 Killed | Ruling party Congress

1989: Kashmir. The largest EVER holocaust of an indigenous community. Central regime remained silent.

2012: Assam riots. Statistics of deaths? Who died in what number? Who started the fight? Who RULES the state? Congress.

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By your logic for Modi/BJP, Congress should be kicked out of India forever.

Anything else?

 

[Indianpatriot1]

He does not have any logic. All he wants is to do is malign a particular individual and a particular party.




What you, your father, or your grand father did need not become a norm. I am proud of my heritage and lineage and that reflects in my surname. I won't do away with it (nor would many that I know).

That aside, it is stupid to say that all men are equal. They are not. And any amount of arguments for and against won't change this fact.

The funniest part is that every one agrees that there are group and individual differences in characteristics such as height, complexion, muscular strength, athletic ability etc, but when it comes to intelligence, everyone must be equal.

I agree that we exist today at the end of a chain of a long line of ancestors and is improper to discard that identity by giving up surnames.

 

[Dillinger]

He does not have any logic. All he wants is to do is malign a particular individual and a particular party.




What you, your father, or your grand father did need not become a norm. I am proud of my heritage and lineage and that reflects in my surname. I won't do away with it (nor would many that I know).

That aside, it is stupid to say that all men are equal. They are not. And any amount of arguments for and against won't change this fact.

Is that so? All men are not equal you say, pray tell where you stand in that mix. Highly intelligent, highly developed musculature, reduced fatigue toxin generation, increased geo-spatial coordination?

Obviously everyone need not do the same but its laughable to state that all men are not "equal"- what do you posit by that term "equal" anyway? Equal in their rights, duties and under the law or equal in the measure of intelligence granted to them? If its the latter then I guess that you are a lesser being as opposed to anyone who has a higher IQ then you.