Fatwah against Suicide attack by Deobandi ulemas

[waraich66]

So we have two camps:

1- Those who believe Islam MUST be implemented by force.

2- Those who believe Islam should not and must not be implemented by force.

But both sides believe that Islam should rule the world.

Main objective is to inform non muslims about islam, once majority of any country converted to islam and start practicing then shariah can be implemented.In that case force can be used if minority (non believers) resisted.

So do we see those in no. 2 actively engage in refuting those in no. 1? No. Or more accurately -- statistically insignificantly 'No'. More often than not, those in no. 2 are more interested arguing against us non-believers about how Islam should not be implemented by force, as if us nonbelievers matters much on how Islam is practiced by both camps. If anything, no. 2 is quite happy that no. 1 is doing the 'dirty work' of trying to rid the world of us nonbelievers, either in killing us off or forcing us to convert...er...I mean 'revert'. It is far safer and easier to argue against nonbelievers than to challenge those who are willing commit violence on behalf of Islam.

First stage is to convence and involve muslims to practice islam at desired level in the second stage to run a islamic state use of force against criminals is allowed.

 

[gambit]

Main objective is to inform non muslims about islam, once majority of any country converted to islam and start practicing then shariah can be implemented.In that case force can be used if minority (non believers) resisted.




First stage is to convence and involve muslims to practice islam at desired level in the second stage to run a islamic state use of force against criminals is allowed.

So in a muslim majority country, non-muslims are in effect criminals. Thanks for clearing that up. So much for 'Islam can not be implemented by force.'

 

[waraich66]

So in a muslim majority country, non-muslims are in effect criminals. Thanks for clearing that up. So much for 'Islam can not be implemented by force.'

Minority have rights but they should respect shariah law as muslims in minority are complying western laws which are un islamic.

 

[Slides]

Main objective is to inform non muslims about islam, once majority of any country converted to islam and start practicing then shariah can be implemented.In that case force can be used if minority (non believers) resisted.




First stage is to convence and involve muslims to practice islam at desired level in the second stage to run a islamic state use of force against criminals is allowed.

Your level of BS has risen to new levels. You re once again back to supporting the Taliban agenda and way of thinking where force against Pakistanis is allowed since we are not "true super duper" muslims like the talib animals and are not following your sharia and thus worthy of death.

Tell me do you also believe that Baitullah Mehsud is shaheed liek your Jamati brothers?

There is a G3 with a bullet waiting for anyone wanting to impose their will on me or my family.

 

[Patriot]

Your level of BS has risen to new levels. You re once again back to supporting the Taliban agenda and way of thinking where force against Pakistanis is allowed since we are not "true super duper" muslims like the talib animals and are not following your sharia and thus worthy of death.

Tell me do you also believe that Baitullah Mehsud is shaheed liek your Jamati brothers?

There is a G3 with a bullet waiting for anyone wanting to impose their will on me or my family.

Excellent Post

 

[waraich66]

Your level of BS has risen to new levels. You re once again back to supporting the Taliban agenda and way of thinking where force against Pakistanis is allowed since we are not "true super duper" muslims like the talib animals and are not following your sharia and thus worthy of death.
Tell me do you also believe that Baitullah Mehsud is shaheed liek your Jamati brothers?

There is a G3 with a bullet waiting for anyone wanting to impose their will on me or my family.

Non sense

First understand that islam is for whole world and it is responsibility of all muslim to convey the message of Allah to all human being.

Now if muslims gain majority and strength in any country and wanted to implement shariah peacefully then they should implement shariah.

Now if any country attacked their islamic state then they have right to protect their country .

Why we have made Pakistan , we can live and practice islam in india also ?

Why our Prophet Muhammad PBUH did hijrat from Makkah and established islamic state in madinah?

BM,talaban and Jamat mistake is they want shariah from top to bottom(first gain power and then implement islam , which is wrong methodology).

 

[waraich66]

Excellent Post

Why non sense post is excellent for you ? can you give your point of view?

 

[Slides]

Non sense

First understand that islam is for whole world and it is responsibility of all muslim to convey the message of Allah to all human being.

Now if muslims gain majority and strength in any country and wanted to implement shariah peacefully then they should implement shariah.

Now if any country attacked their islamic state then they have right to protect their country .

Why we have made Pakistan , we can live and practice islam in india also ?

Why our Prophet Muhammad PBUH did hijrat from Makkah and established islamic state in madinah?

BM,talaban and Jamat mistake is they want shariah from top to bottom(first gain power and then implement islam , which is wrong methodology).

Pakistan is already an Islamic republic and shariah is part of the constitution. Any changes will be made within the system through the will of the majority. If any outside country attacks Pakistan for this or any other reason, the Pakistani military will be there to defend it, your talib mercenaries are not needed. If any internal or external terrorist group like the TTP attacks the Pakistani state and its people for this or any other reason, they will be crushed like little ants much like they are right now.

Now answer me this and without going on tangents, is BM a shaheed? Are the taliban animals shaheed?

Pakistan was created so that all the crazies would move to india in the footsteps of maududi and his anti pakistan mullah crowd. Sadly, that did not happen but that's ok, Pakistanis will make the best of what we have been given by Allah. Inshallah.

 

[waraich66]

Pakistan is already an Islamic republic and shariah is part of the constitution. Any changes will be made within the system through the will of the majority. If any outside country attacks Pakistan for this or any other reason, the Pakistani military will be there to defend it, your talib mercenaries are not needed. If any internal or external terrorist group like the TTP attacks the Pakistani state and its people for this or any other reason, they will be crushed like little ants much like they are right now.

What do you mean by " your talib mercenaries"?

Now answer me this and without going on tangents, is BM a shaheed? Are the taliban animals shaheed?

Are you sure BM is dead?

He killed many innocient citizen through suicidal attacks, Allah will kill him againt each murder, how any one declare him shaheed?

Are you on drugs?

Pakistan was created so that all the crazies would move to india in the footsteps of maududi and his anti pakistan mullah crowd. Sadly, that did not happen but that's ok, Pakistanis will make the best of what we have been given by Allah. Inshallah.

We should respect Ullema deen , but we can differ with their thoughts, Pakistan was created in the name of Islam , which is miracle .

May Allah spread the idealogy of Pakistan all over the world