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Shameful, Turkish soldiers getting treated bad, badly paid, generals are thrown into prison which causes low morale.
 
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when the generals are crooks and criminals and agents of the enemy...they need to be weeded out....
 

Shameful, Turkish soldiers getting treated bad, badly paid, generals are thrown into prison which causes low morale.
Look what Turkey has become a Lion without a fang with an army that has low morale because they are badly paid and their generals are thrown into prison **** AKP and their islamofacism it would be a good thing to deport them plus the bdp.
 
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when the generals are crooks and criminals and agents of the enemy...they need to be weeded out....

Yes, some of them were, but AKP is throwing everybody in jail without evidence. Turkey literally doesn't have any good generals. Everbody is in jail.

AKP is also paying veterans and soldiers very badly, while Erdogan's daughter get's 50k per year, Turkish soldiers are struggling, feel abandoned and attacked. You either have to be a Kurd or a traitor to be liked by AKP.
 
Listen from 2:36
 
Turkish Military Generals were Western lackeys. Good that AKP put them in their place... Turks should never, ever allow another coup by the military. Military's job is not to govern but to protect the nation.

Hope APK radically reforms Turkish military and make it a even more professional, stronger, and powerful..an institution that respects its soldiers...

Enemy of whom? You know AKP don't represent Turks.

How come AKP wins elections,then?

Who won elections in Istanbul last time? Who is the mayor of Istanbul? From AKP?

Also, which political party do you support?

Why AKP is disliked by its criticizers?
 
Enemy of whom? You know AKP don't represent Turks.

of course it does..it is the CHP that represents a mafia thugs than robbed turkey for 70 years...
 
@Neptune bro, want to say something ? is this the reason why you left ? :undecided:
 
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Yes, some of them were, but AKP is throwing everybody in jail without evidence. Turkey literally doesn't have any good generals. Everbody is in jail.

AKP is also paying veterans and soldiers very badly, while Erdogan's daughter get's 50k per year, Turkish soldiers are struggling, feel abandoned and attacked. You either have to be a Kurd or a traitor to be liked by AKP.

these generals are incompetent they have been using conscripts as perosnal servants, repeated losses of conscripts to insurgents due to bad leadership and intelligence shows it all.. even the kibris liberation operation was badly managed and only the ordinary soldiers andjunior officers bravery won the day..the enemy had just two battalions and look how much damage they did...they need to select and train new senior staff who are patriotic and competent and not serving some mafia group...
 
Erodogan will be forced to reconcile with Army Generals assuming he wins 2014 elections , the next 10 years will witness instabilities in middle east .
 
@Saleem;
Well fella, they aren't crooks. Maybe they are much more patriot and loyal than the whole TBMM and your lovely akp bitches. (Turkish Parliement). They're putting them to the jail cauz, for akp's and cemaat's logic they are "obstacles, enemies and coupmaniacs". For God's sake pls look at Turkey's history. you'll see that Turkish Armed Forces was the only true protector of Turkish Independence and Turkish people's Freedom except most of the coups. Well it's ARMY. Not a girlsclup, how do you expect officers the treat the soldiers? Bad leadership? Most of nato including US has trainees in War College. Ever been or lived in a Turkish military base? If no, stop spreading bs!

@atatwolf;
Bro, the salaries are pretty well and the whole staff is well cared inside the TAF when it comes to NCO's and officers. But when we were talking to a few master sgts, they were always complaining about the salary of Petty Officers, you're right on that.

@AUz ;
Western lackeys? WTF? Seriously whatta hell has that meant? If you were right. We'd join to combat ops in Afghanistan. We wouldn't just provide CAP's in Libya. We would bomb Serbia in the 90's. We'd sit and watch in Cyprus just like you did in the Op: UBL. Let me remind you, every country has it's side. With being nato: Turkish Generals/Admirals and Officers are "the West" itself.

@Neptune bro, want to say something ? is this the reason why you left ? :undecided:

Quite frankly bro, it kinda similar to it :)



We/They used to have honor, self-confidence, patriotizm. But now it's "Ground Zero". They turned TAF into the only adopted child of a huge, rich family. :hitwall:
 
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This has more to do with turkish army than the politicians... as for generals.. well they supported dictatorships and tried to over throw govts elected by the turkish people...
 
Quite frankly bro, it kinda similar to it :)

I guessing right after the talk about "benefits of tourism" in the Turkish thread, right ?
 
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