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mixed- yes. that's why they are called pathans(that's what I understood). there are other groups like shias(don't know their tribe) who looks iranid.

@Monkey D Luffy - do you consider pathans(refer post3430967) in india as pashtuns? just to know the opinion.

No. I consider them just pathans, for me pashtun is the one who speaks pashto. There are many so called urdu speaking pathans in MQM in karachi who are killing us there so its not just about blood, you have to be linguistically and culturally pashtun.
 
youll be surprised that there are many brahmins from south india who look very south european/aryan

lol saying it and proving are two different things, northern pakistanis clearly look like that, there are tons of pics to prove it

hahahhahah at south indians looking like european, yeah and black africans are also white european. South indians are darkest people in India, even north indians will never look european, unless you count a place like Kashmir, where there might be some who do, but I dont count Kashmir as India, they have nothing to do with India
 
Pashtuns are Iranian people. Their origin still unknown but the ancient people who founded great art at Swat and Pushkalavati were Indo-Aryan people.
 
So tacitly u are accepting that the original population of Kashmir was Hindu at some point in history and ATLEAST SOME Hindus belong to the same stock as the Kasmiri Muslim's cause the people who are referring to as,"Settled in Delhi" are the original inhabitants of Kashmir the Kashmiri Pandit's!!BTW watch this video,it might help to ward off your illusion about what India's gene pool has contributed to the world population:

indians haven't contributed any thing to the world gene pool, Indians are dravdian, while the rest of the world is not. This clearly proves nobody from India never went outside of India
 
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That girl is a hindko girl, dont mistake her views as those of pashtuns.


Are Hindko's not pashtuns?

I have a very good friend from Abbotabad, and he speaks Hindkho, but from looks he is undeniably a pashtun.

His tribe is also Yusafzai.
 
That girl is a hindko girl, dont mistake her views as those of pashtuns.

hindko are very interesting people, I have seen some who look very pashtun or northern pakistani, they have coloured eyes and hair, but I have also seen many who look Indic and are very dark. I think they are a bridging people between northern ethnic groups and indics
 
No. I consider them just pathans, for me pashtun is the one who speaks pashto. There are many so called urdu speaking pathans in MQM in karachi who are killing us there so its not just about blood, you have to be linguistically and culturally pashtun.

In india, the only real pashtuns were the Rohilla Pathans who lived around Delhi, but most of them moved back to pakistan around 1947, They moved to KP and mixed with the local pashtuns, since they were real pashtuns. There are almost no real pashtuns left in India now
 
Are Hindko's not pashtuns?

I have a very good friend from Abbotabad, and he speaks Hindkho, but from looks he is undeniably a pashtun.

His tribe is also Yusafzai.

Some of them are indeed "pathans" e.g jadoons, tanolis, tareens etc but they are culturally not similar to pashtuns. They are at best punjabi-pathans.
 
hindko are very interesting people, I have seen some who look very pashtun or northern pakistani, they have coloured eyes and hair, but I have also seen many who look Indic and are very dark. I think they are a bridging people between northern ethnic groups and indics

I live in abbotabad, hazara. It is very strange, they have very high ratio of green eyes. Their facial features greatly varies. I would say they are close to kashmiris in terms of langauge and looks.

In india, the only real pashtuns were the Rohilla Pathans who lived around Delhi, but most of them moved back to pakistan around 1947, They moved to KP and mixed with the local pashtuns, since they were real pashtuns. There are almost no real pashtuns left in India now

well many of these rohilla pathans moved to karachi and are killing real pashtuns.
 
lol saying it and proving are two different things, northern pakistanis clearly look like that, there are tons of pics to prove it

hahahhahah at south indians looking like european, yeah and black africans are also white european. South indians are darkest people in India, even north indians will never looks european, unless you count a place like Kashmir, where there might be some who do, but I dont count Kashmir as India, they have nothing to do with India
1)Kashmiri Surnames:

Butt-Bhatt(Sanskrit)Eg:Mahesh Bhatt(Kashmiri Brahmin)Bilal Butt(Kashmiri Muslim)
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Dar-Dhar(Sanskrit)Eg:Sandeepa Dhar(Kasmiri Pandit)
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Shatatantri Veena(Sanskrit)-Santoor Kashmiri Musical instrument:
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Kashmir nomenclature-Derived from the name of sage Kashyap
Language-There are three orthographical systems used to write the Kashmiri language—these are the Sharada script, the Devanagari script and the Perso-Arabic script; additionally, due to internet technology, the Roman script is sometimes used to write Kashmiri, especially online.The Kashmiri language was traditionally written in the Sharada script after the 8th Century A.D.This script however, is not in common use today, except for religious ceremonies of the Kashmiri Pandits.However, today, it is written in Devanagari script and Perso-Arabic script (with some modifications). Among languages written in the Perso-Arabic script, Kashmiri is one of the very few which regularly indicates all vowel sounds. This script has been in vogue since the Muslim conquest in India and has been used by the people for centuries, in the Kashmir Valley.However, today, the Kashmiri Perso-Arabic script has come to be associated with Kashmiri Muslims, while the Kashmiri Devanagari script, has come to be associated with the Kashmiri Hindu community, who employ the latter script.
The Word Shardi is derived from Sharda one of the many manifestations of the Mother Goddess and one of the most revered Shaktipeethas of the Hindus dedicated
to Mata Sharda is still in ***.Though Kashmiri has thousands of loan words (mainly from Persian and Urdu etc.) due to the arrival of Islam in the Valley, however, it remains basically an Indo-Aryan language close to Rigvedic Sanskrit. There is a minor difference between the Kashmiri spoken by a Hindu and a Muslim. For 'fire', a traditional Hindu will use the word agun while a Muslim more often will use the Arabic word nar.Shashishekhar Toshkhani, a scholar on Kashmir's heritage, provides a detailed analysis where he shows extensive linguistic relationship between the Sanskrit language and the Kashmiri language, and presents detailed arguments contesting George Grierson's classification of the Kashmiri language as a member of the Dardic sub-group (of the Indo-Aryan group of languages). Kashmiri has strong links to Rigvedic Sanskrit. For example 'cloud' is obur, 'rain' is ruud (from the Rigvedic Aryan god Rudra).
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Maa Sharda temple in ***
Amarnath cave in Kashmir-One of the most revered shrines of Lord Shiva
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Even the traditional plays Bhand Pattar which is an integral part of Kashmiri culture is actually derived from Bhand Patra(Sanskrit)meaning comic character!!
Bakwaas karne se pehle thoda sooch toh liya karo yaar.Kashmir has nothing to do with India??It was the wnter capital of Emperor Ashoka.The last ruling king of Kasmir Maharaja Hari Singh was an Indian Sikh!!Sanskrit was once known as the seat of Sanskrit .
Among the grammarians, the earliest referenee to Kashmir is found in Panini's (500 B.C.) "Ashtadhayi" and in Patanjali's great commentary on it. There the term "Kashmir" and its derivation "Kashmira" are stated as the name of the country and its inhabitants, respectively.

Among the epics, we find the name of "Kashmir" in the Ramayana and the Mahabharata. The Mahabharata refers in several passages to "Kashmir" and their king, but in a way which merely indicates that the valley was situated in the hilly regions to the north of India. Similarly, some of the Puranas refer to Kashmir in the list of northern nations. The earliest Sanskrit literature of the valley so far known is the Nilmat Purana. According to the opinion of Dr. Buhler, a famous German Indologist: "It is a real mine of information regarding the sacred places of Kashmir and their legends". Besides, the reference to worships prescribed by "Nila" and observed by the people, the work dilates upon such various topics as the Principal Nagas or sacred springs of Kashmir, the origin of the "Mahapadamsara" (present Wular Lake), places dedicated to Shiva and Vishnu, the sacred river confluences and lakes, the chief pilgrimages of the land and in the end upon the sanctity of the Vitasta.

Varahmihra (C.A.D. 500), in his Brahtsamhita, includes the Kashmiras in the north-eastern division of the other tribes who lived in this region. He mentions the Abhisaras, Daradas, Darvas, Khashas, Kiras, etc., the tribes which are known from other sources to have inhabited Kashmir and its neighbouring regions in historical periods. Harasha, a famous poet (7th Century A.D.), in his "Ratnavali" (drama), refers to the saffron of the Kashmira country, which was best of all types of saffrons, both in colour and in scent.
 
indians haven't contributed any thing to the world gene pool, Indians are dravdian, while the rest of the world is not.

Dravidians also form the part of gene pool of Pakistani particularly Punjabi, Sindhis.

This clearly proves nobody from India never went outside of India

Indians have large percentage in many countries. In ancient times our cultural values reached far and wide in Asia.
 
indians haven't contributed any thing to the world gene pool, Indians are dravdian, while the rest of the world is not. This clearly proves nobody from India never went outside of India
And this proves the IQ of Pakistanis.Is this what u inferred from this video.It says the first Human beings and I repeat First Human beings migrated out of India and into India so whatever Human migration took place was from India in the later ages.Now its a different thing altogether if Pakistanis do not consider themselves Humans but Angels!!:cheesy:
 
lol saying it and proving are two different things, northern pakistanis clearly look like that, there are tons of pics to prove it

hahahhahah at south indians looking like european, yeah and black africans are also white european. South indians are darkest people in India, even north indians will never look european, unless you count a place like Kashmir, where there might be some who do, but I dont count Kashmir as India, they have nothing to do with India

dont talk if you dont know...
 
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