NATO: Insurgents try to pit Afghanistan against Pakistan

[Majnun]

WASHINGTON (CNN) -- Insurgents fired simultaneously on Pakistan and Afghanistan positions Thursday night in hopes of provoking a battle between the two military forces, NATO officials said Friday.

U.S. forces were called into action on the Afghanistan-Pakistan border after Afghan security forces came under fire from insurgents inside Pakistan, NATO said. Meanwhile, two Pakistani border outposts also had come under fire.

Six mortar rounds hit one Pakistani outpost, and troops there returned fire, according to Pakistan military spokesman Maj. Gen. Athar Abbas.

Six Pakistani security personnel were injured in the exchange along the South Waziristan border, and a number of casualties were "observed/reported" on the other side of the border, he said.

NATO said it had reports that four Afghan border police officers and eight Pakistani military members were wounded in the four-hour firefight.

International Security Assistance Force officials "suspect that the insurgents' dual attack was specifically intended to spark a border incident," the statement said. ISAF is the NATO contingent in Afghanistan.

As the firefight continued, a U.S. F-15 aircraft dropped a GBU-13 bomb that also landed in Afghanistan, the officials said.

Thank God. Now Pakistan and Afghanistan won't blame each other, or more specifically, Karzai and Northern Alliance won't blame Pakistan.

 

[Spring Onion]

A bundle of lies by CNN. What kind of cowards they are. Mortors and missiles were fired from Afghanistan in Pakistani area which was retaliated by Pakistani forces also.

Pakistan also lodge protest over it.

Its a pitty their BS media is doing face covering.

 

[maqsad]

Could be false flag too. Special forces from India could be posing as "militants" to get some conflict stirred up between PA and NATO. Could also be Afghan Special forces or even one of the NATO countries, and the press report does not want to reveal that so they just blame generic "militants" instead.

Or...just some special ops from ANA or NATO posing as militants on their own side to make themselves look innocent. CNN publishes ridiculously simplistic news reports to bury the complex truth very often.

 

[Spring Onion]

Could be false flag too. Special forces from India could be posing as "militants" to get some conflict stirred up between PA and NATO. Could also be Afghan Special forces or even one of the NATO countries, and the press report does not want to reveal that so they just blame generic "militants" instead.

special forces from India dont have guts and balls to that. While NATO doesnt need moles rather NATO is deliberatly doing that as if you have followed the happenings the NATO bombard Angor Adda area of Waziristan too. it seems US/NATO are preparing grounds for a major offensive and there are reports that they are mulling to attack Pakistan literaly.

 

[maqsad]

special forces from India dont have guts and balls to that. While NATO doesnt need moles rather NATO is deliberatly doing that as if you have followed the happenings the NATO bombard Angor Adda area of Waziristan too. it seems US/NATO are preparing grounds for a major offensive and there are reports that they are mulling to attack Pakistan literaly.

Yeah that makes sense. India is just a minor player but it still has a presence in Afghanistan and also desires to see pakistan broken up yet again so I mentioned them. It must be NATO troops doing the firing along with some special ops from NATO posing as taliban also doing the firing to make it look like it was all started by a taliban trick...but the truth is there is no taliban trick it was all planned by NATO.

 

[Majnun]

it seems US/NATO are preparing grounds for a major offensive and there are reports that they are mulling to attack Pakistan literaly.

What do you mean by that? That they are thinking of declaring all-out war?
In NATO Turkey,at least, would never support that sort of venture.

 

[Majnun]

I am not sure what exactly India's role is (and I believe none of us are), but, speaking just as a Pakistani, I don't feel very good about it and don't think it is a positive role.
Also, the blame game was started by Karzai and his Indian-backers, such as Northern Alliance.

 

[Majnun]

Yeah that makes sense. India is just a minor player but it still has a presence in Afghanistan and also desires to see pakistan broken up yet again so I mentioned them. It must be NATO troops doing the firing along with some special ops from NATO posing as taliban also doing the firing to make it look like it was all started by a taliban trick...but the truth is there is no taliban trick it was all planned by NATO.

I don't understand. If it was just America you mentioned, it would make sense, but why NATO specially?

 

[maqsad]

I am not sure what exactly India's role is (and I believe none of us are), but, speaking just as a Pakistani, I don't feel very good about it and don't think it is a positive role.
Also, the blame game was started by Karzai and his Indian-backers, such as Northern Alliance.

India's role is never positive when it comes to the security and wellbeing of Pakistan. Both India and Afghanistan have an unofficial policy of breaking up Pakistan. So of course Indians got involved in sponsoring terrorism against Pakistan in Afghanistan, that is only natural.

I don't understand. If it was just America you mentioned, it would make sense, but why NATO specially?

No not NATO specially. The USA and the UK have the largest presence there so when I say NATO I mean the US/UK controlled NATO presence in Afghanistan. Also regarding Karzai he does not just have a friendly relationship only with India. Both the US and the UK exert a big amount of control over Karzai, why do you think he was chosen for the job?

 

[Majnun]

Both India and Afghanistan have an unofficial policy of breaking up Pakistan.

No, Afghanis in general, Pathans in particular, are friendly towards Pakistan. However, since Pakistan was made in 1947, Afghanistan has made ruled mostly by the Northern Alliance (other than the Soviet occupation) and they have always been unfriendly towards Pakistan, backed as they are by Russia, India and Iran (post 1979).

However, most Afghanis are friendly towards Pakistan.

 

[dabong1]

RAWALPINDI: Pakistan on Saturday staged a strong protest against the bombardment of US-led coalition forces on areas in Pakistan’s territory on Friday.

At least Pakistani six soldiers were wounded in a US-led coalition force bombardment in the country's border tribal area, said sources Friday. The latest incident of territorial violation took place in Angorada area of the South Waziristan tribal agency.

Pakistan's military spokesman said in a statement that our troops also launched a counterattack. Many soldier have received injuries in Afghan side also, reports says.

He said, “Pakistan has launched a strong protest over US bombardment in its area".
Pak protest US bombardment in South Waziristan

 

[Majnun]

Pakistan's military spokesman said in a statement that our troops also launched a counterattack. Many soldier have received injuries in Afghan side also, reports says.Pak protest US bombardment in South Waziristan

Good to see Pakistani troops are putting up a fight. Maybe we should get a couple of ack acks in case US planes come around again?

 

[maqsad]

Good to see Pakistani troops are putting up a fight. Maybe we should get a couple of ack acks in case US planes come around again?

The troops will always fight but the problem is the command, Mushy and the generals, Gilani and Kayani. All they do make agreements to allow the CIA and USAF to bomb pakistani civilians and pakistani troops.

 

[IceCold]

I think the FC troops will have to backed by artillery to stop this nonsense from the afghan troops. As for the US and NATO air force that is often called on these occasions when the afghans are getting a kick on their *****, we do need to send out a strong message to the US to stop violating our air space and attacking our soldiers because this is the second time they did so and if they don't bring it into a consideration, then we should take one of their jets down which violates the air space. Its a saying Latoon Ka Bhoot Batoon sa nahi manta. This directly implies on the US. They should have a hold on their afghan dogs. Every time its the afghans who start a border conflict and then involve NATO into it when they receive a back lash from our troops and both NATO and the US doesn't give a damn to whom they are targeting, for them all Pakistanis are the same.

 

[dr.umer]

This is reported by iStockAnalyst

Peshawar: Eleven people, including nine Pakistani soldiers and two tribesmen, were injured when two NATO warplanes blitzed Pakistan's Angoor Adda town, a border village on the Pak-Afghan border in South Waziristan, on the night between Thursday and Friday [11 July].

Angoor Adda, which is about 25 kilometers west of Wana, often comes under attacks by the US and Afghan troops from the Paktika province. Official and local residents of the border town told this correspondent by telephone that two NATO planes had bombed the mountainous areas between Pakistan and Afghanistan. They said several bombs fell inside the Pakistani territory and hit the border towns of Zayara Leeta and Musa Neeka areas near Angoor Adda.

The sources said a joint post of Pakistan Army and paramilitary Frontier Corps (FC) on the border also came under attack that caused serious injuries to nine soldiers.

The injured soldiers, reportedly belonged to Pakistan Army, were airlifted to a military hospital in Bannu. Some of them were identified as Naik Omar Iqbal, Sepoy Imran, Sepoy Ali Gul, Sepoy Rafiq, Waqas Maseeh and barber Faisal.

Two local tribesmen living in Angoor Adda were also injured in the attack. The residents said four vehicles owned by the tribesmen were damaged in the bombing. A local resident of Angoor Adda, Mohammad Gulzar said the bombing had shaken the whole town and terrified the residents. "The bombing was so heavy that rocked the whole town," remarked Gulzar.

Also, he said after the bombing by the two NATO planes, several mortar rounds were fired at the Pakistani territory. The sources said all the rounds fell inside Pakistan. A senior government official in Wana, the headquarters of South Waziristan, confirmed that the Pakistani post was destroyed, but said he was not clear whether it was hit by planes or mortar rounds.

There were also reports that mortar rounds were fired at the Pakistani territory when some militants attacked the US military camp at Birmal area in Afghanistan's Paktika province. Similarly, residents in Wana told this correspondent that a US spy plane was seen flying over Wana, Azam Warsak and Angoor Adda towns on Thursday night.

The attack by NATO forces created a sense of insecurity among the people living in the border areas with Afghanistan. Several attempts were made to approach the Pakistan Army spokesman, Maj Gen Athar Abbas, for comments but he was unavailable.

Meanwhile, ISPR [Inter Services Public Relations] press release says that six personnel of paramilitary troops sustained injuries on Friday when mortar shells fired from across the Afghan border hit Sera checkpost in Angoor Adda of South Waziristan Agency (SWA).

In retaliation to the unprovoked mortar attack, the Pak troops opened fire, which resulted in several casualties on the other side of the border. However, the number of deaths could not be ascertained. Pakistan lodged a strong protest with the International Security Assistance Force (ISAF) headquarters.

Originally published by The News website, Islamabad, in English 12 Jul 08.

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