Ruling coalition dubs PTI ‘clique of militants’, resolves to take action

[arjunk]

This all started when they refused the dissolution of assemblies in April 2022. Khan's popularity would have died had the elections been conducted last year.

Now every action is taking away their whatever remaining popularity.

Latest: Siddique Jan has been arrested!

Asad Umar is in their crosshairs as well. I reckon they'll be a bunch of cases springing up against him and he'll be arrested, all of this sometime today or tomorrow.

 

[Sugarcane]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1637862376698437651

 

[N.Siddiqui]

IK's support base in many areas is not 70% as per some reports but close to 90-91% in many areas of Pakistan. In yesterday meeting of PDM and Hafiz, Anujm a survey of Punjab south and Sindh border was presented with 92% of the voters favoring PTI.

Even in Sindh PTI will win with fair elections, but that remains to be seen with Zardari mafia and police controlling the poor awam.

 

[ash5]

PDM and Army are that scared of a PTI 2/3rd majority and they will go to any lengths to suffocate them, their sins are so great.

 

[OldenWisdom...قول بزرگ]

Excellent Point. We have to be realistic about this all turmoil. We are practically in pre-1947 British India.

The ruling elite would be something like.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1441347753846714368

The Muslim population would be going through genocides & pogroms. like Arya Samaj:

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And the anglo-saxons would be pushing for dented versions of Islam like Qadianism.


We will probably go into an era where the honor of our women would no longer be safe. The rulers will be neutrals. And, any outwardly appearance of Islam would be put down.

Now pay attention to a compromise... when those who decided to take bullet on companies dime!
Names, manners perhaps outward dispensation still remained that of a Muslim and they imagined to take it to it's ultimate conclusion. It is apparent as daylight what has transpired, the compromise didn't pay... in the meanwhile they lost their ways too! Took the bullet and now will again turn it on their own!

The discourse needs to come back home... to what matters.
Jinnah didn't/couldn't see past his shadow... he kept the ceiling intact... anyone came through the motions would do so... perhaps even prop it up.
But, for Pakistan, it had/has to be shattered!

 

[PakCan]

Is he an establishment shill or something? But then why would you say he's

He allowed himself to be used by the establishment.

We've had shills in govt all this time? What am I missing here?

we don’t want another Mualana or Rizvi. Job of a scholar is to preach the religion the best to their ability without being bias. Right now we can see Pakistani religious community is quite, they are more afraid of army then Allah.

Political aspiration changes weak men, they lose direction and if you are a religious leader you have added responsibility to lead by example. So instead of Qadri , army ended up building Ridvi

 

[SaadH]

You can take your ethnicity and be proud of it. Sure.

But as a Muslim, if you are Muslim, then that is always going to trump your ethnicity. Always. If you understand Islam.

Second as a Pakistani, Jinnah and Iqbal’s nation is based on Islam. Given the above, that will also trump your ethnicity if you understand what Pakistan is.

In Taza Khudaon Mein Bara Sub Se Watan Hai
Jo Pairhan Iss Ka Hai Woh Mazhab Ka Kafan Hai.

 

[TheSolution]

You can take your ethnicity and be proud of it. Sure.

But as a Muslim, if you are Muslim, then that is always going to trump your ethnicity. Always. If you understand Islam.

Second as a Pakistani, Jinnah and Iqbal’s nation is based on Islam. Given the above, that will also trump your ethnicity if you understand what Pakistan is.

This is some idealistic foolish utopian stuff that no one buys into apart from some mentally cucked Punjabis and Muhajirs

Enter the real world - history has shown that ethnicity, culture, language has always been the dominant force even amongst Muslims.

Even this "ummah" stuff doesn't mean you become one massive nation and suck each other off lmao, the model should be based more off of the European Union where you have alliances in military, trade, education, culture!

Stop covering your eyes and burrying your head in the sand.

 

[Ssan]

This is some idealistic foolish utopian stuff that no one buys into apart from some mentally cucked Punjabis and Muhajirs

Enter the real world - history has shown that ethnicity, culture, language has always been the dominant force even amongst Muslims.

Even this "ummah" stuff doesn't mean you become one massive nation and suck each other off lmao, the model should be based more off of the European Union where you have alliances in military, trade, education, culture!

Stop covering your eyes and burrying your head in the sand.

That I have ideology does not mean that I deny or don’t realize realpolitik.

Real life is a balance between idealism and pragmatism. I might be proven wrong very shortly but Pakistan has a destiny- and her destiny is not limited to some shallow ethnic nation of some sort.

If we had had half a brain, we would envision ourselves as Prussia that was the seed that crystallized a German identity. We would have been, still could be to the Muslim world what Prussia was to the collection of German states in the Rhine.

 

[TheSolution]

That I have ideology does not mean that I deny or don’t realize realpolitik.

Real life is a balance between idealism and pragmatism. I might be proven wrong very shortly but Pakistan has a destiny- and her destiny is not limited to some shallow ethnic nation of some sort.

If we had had half a brain, we would envision ourselves as Prussia that was the seed that crystallized a German identity. We would have been, still could be to the Muslim world what Prussia was to the collection of German states in the Rhine.

You can't have what you want when your second largest ethnicity is incredibly ethno-centric and doesn't buy into whatever you're selling. Simple as that.

Ethnic nations are not shallow, they are practical. Built on real world foundations and connections, inherently the most likely to be stable.

 

[AA_]

Anyway I am surprised why uncle Sam isn't bailing out them.

Probably because Uncle Sam figured out these guys are POS and can’t be trusted. Don’t get me wrong, Americas done really f up stuff, but they have a mechanism and usually do support their Allies and friends unlike the folks at GHQ, who sold out Sikhs, Taliban, and the Kashmiris.

 

[AA_]

I remember reading here somewhere that one of the requirement for pakistan military enrollment is ( IQ less then 85) above that are considered unfit for army. The generals want people without any critical thinking that follow orders without any question.

In the US Army, the enlisted take the ASVAB test to test your aptitude. The higher the scores, the more complex or difficult your job will be in most cases. You get to choose your job. Their infantry branch has some of the highest scores. The officers and senior NCOs give enough space to take the initiative and think outside the box.
If what you said is true about the IQ levels requirements, I can honestly see that. Just watch the videos of Pakistani army soldiers getting ambushed. No self awareness and clear lack of training to get out of the kill zone. This occurs over and over. Compare that to the ambushes video of US soldiers, they seek cover, and direct their efforts to the direction where the fire is coming from. They used the DDD method - distance direction description to pinpoint who and where the fire is coming from.

 

[AA_]

IK needs to come out and force and openly accused the GHQ and the PDM that if he is killed or the elections are not held, that people need to go after both GHQ and PDM. It’s about time he puts it out there the repercussions if this foolish government takes these nuts steps

 

[ziaulislam]

IK needs to come out and force and openly accused the GHQ and the PDM that if he is killed or the elections are not held, that people need to go after both GHQ and PDM. It’s about time he puts it out there the repercussions if this foolish government takes these nuts steps

I think he has support somewhere army hence why he is doing this

Also he thinks supreme court is in his pocket though with qazi esa things might change

 

[Fasbre2]

In the US Army, the enlisted take the ASVAB test to test your aptitude. The higher the scores, the more complex or difficult your job will be in most cases. You get to choose your job. Their infantry branch has some of the highest scores. The officers and senior NCOs give enough space to take the initiative and think outside the box.
If what you said is true about the IQ levels requirements, I can honestly see that. Just watch the videos of Pakistani army soldiers getting ambushed. No self awareness and clear lack of training to get out of the kill zone. This occurs over and over. Compare that to the ambushes video of US soldiers, they seek cover, and direct their efforts to the direction where the fire is coming from. They used the DDD method - distance direction description to pinpoint who and where the fire is coming from.

Begs the question where does all th

In the US Army, the enlisted take the ASVAB test to test your aptitude. The higher the scores, the more complex or difficult your job will be in most cases. You get to choose your job. Their infantry branch has some of the highest scores. The officers and senior NCOs give enough space to take the initiative and think outside the box.
If what you said is true about the IQ levels requirements, I can honestly see that. Just watch the videos of Pakistani army soldiers getting ambushed. No self awareness and clear lack of training to get out of the kill zone. This occurs over and over. Compare that to the ambushes video of US soldiers, they seek cover, and direct their efforts to the direction where the fire is coming from. They used the DDD method - distance direction description to pinpoint who and where the fire is coming from.

Begs the question where does all the army budget go if army soldiers don’t get training on the basics of soldiering. Looks like all the money goes on pensions, DHA, enterprises and boot polish…