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JF-17 fighter jet gets J-20’s combat missile: reports (Global times)

I disagree with your statement. I know u are the type who think anything from US is the best. But when your mentality need to be amend cos America are now hostile to Pakistan. They ban T-129K helo export to Pakistan and AH-129 gunship too. R/S between US and Pakistan is at break point.
Sir if someone is hostile to my country, it doesn't mean that their products become inferior. JF-17 currently is inferior to the F-16. Ask any sensible person.
That's not what I been told. SD10 is better solution. If PL15 is integrated then F16 needs to take back seat.
On this forum everyone is told this or that and when it mattered in the air in 2019 the f-16s were used. I think you watch dcs too much
 
PL10 without HMD is no option. Which mean HMD is also integrated.

Though not much visible, notice the pilot helm. It's not what PAF employs and does looks like chinese HMD.

On J20:

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Jf17:

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JF-17 fighter jet gets J-20’s combat missile: reports - Global Times

JF-17 fighter jet gets J-20’s combat missile: reports
By
Liu Xuanzun
Published: Apr 29, 2021 06:19 PM

A JF-17 fighter jet attached to the Pakistan Air Force flies towards the designated airspace during an air-to-ground offensive operation drill conducted by two Chinese JH-7 fighter bombers and two Pakistani JF-17 fighter jets on Sept. 20, 2017, which is part of the Shaheen VI  joint training exercise launched by the air forces of China and Pakistan on Sept. 8 and scheduled to conclude on Sept. 27, 2017. Photo: eng.chinamil.com.cn

A JF-17 fighter jet attached to the Pakistan Air Force flies towards the designated airspace during an air-to-ground offensive operation drill conducted by two Chinese JH-7 fighter bombers and two Pakistani JF-17 fighter jets on Sept. 20, 2017, which is part of the "Shaheen VI " joint training exercise launched by the air forces of China and Pakistan on Sept. 8 and scheduled to conclude on Sept. 27, 2017. Photo: eng.chinamil.com.cn



The latest, upgraded version of the JF-17 fighter jet has recently been spotted equipped with China's most advanced air-to-air combat missile that is also used by China's J-20 stealth aircraft, with military observers saying on Thursday that the weapon will give the China-Pakistan jointly developed light fighter the upper hand against its counterparts in dogfights and make it one of the world's best in its class.

A photo recently circulating on social media shows a JF-17 Block 3 fighter jet with the serial number "3001" on a test flight, eastday.com, a Shanghai-based news website, reported on Wednesday.

This is the first time the aircraft with this particular serial number has been seen by the general public, and a PL-10 air-to-air combat missile can be seen on the tip of each of its wings, the report said, without revealing the date and location.

As the short-range combat missile also used by China's most advanced J-20 stealth fighter jet and others, the PL-10 represents the highest level of its kind, and previous JF-17s are equipped with the old PL-5, eastday.com reported.

Observers said that the PL-10 equipped by the JF-17 Block 3 is likely an export variation, the PL-10E, which made its debut at the Airshow China 2018 in Zhuhai, South China's Guangdong Province.

The PL-10E is a domestically developed, fourth generation air-to-air missile, and is one of the most advanced in the world that is on par with the US'AIM-9X, Liang Xiaogeng, chief designer of the missile, told the Global Times on the sidelines of the exhibition in 2018.

Thanks to its infrared-homing, extreme aerodynamic design and other advanced technologies, no aircraft, even stealth ones, can escape from the PL-10, eastday.com reported, also citing Liang.

With the PL-10, the JF-17 Block 3 will gain tremendous dogfight capability and have an edge even against its heavier opposing counterparts in homeland air defense, a Beijing-based military expert told the Global Times on Thursday, requesting anonymity.

In addition to the PL-10, the JF-17 Block 3 also received a more advanced radar, as China Central Television reported on Saturday that the fighter jet is equipped with the KLJ-7A airborne active electronically scanned array fire control radar.

The radar is of the most advanced level in the world, Hu Mingchun, director of the No.14 Research Institute at the state-owned China Electronics Technology Group Co, told the Global Times at the 9th World Radar Expo in Nanjing, East China's Jiangsu Province, last week.

The first JF-17 Block 3 prototype, with serial number "3000", was taken into the skies for the first time in December 2019 in Chengdu, Southwest China's Sichuan Province, Beijing-based Aerospace Knowledge magazine reported at that time.

Other technologies, including a new and larger holographic wide-angle head-up display and integrated cockpit display similar to the one used by the J-20, in addition to an advanced infrared missile approach warning system used by the J-10C, J-16 and J-20 fighter jets, are also used on the JF-17 Block 3, Aerospace Knowledge said.

The JF-17 Block 3 will be one of the world's most powerful light fighter jets, experts said.

The Block 1 and 2 versions of the JF-17 can also use new radars and missiles for upgrades, analysts said.

This is really good news but how long will it take for PAF pilots to get accustomed to performing with heads up displays and off bore sight missiles. A change of tactics would likely be required. Its a major technological jump from anything in Pakistans inventory. Is PAF able to replicate these advances In simulator?
 
Sir if someone is hostile to my country, it doesn't mean that their products become inferior. JF-17 currently is inferior to the F-16. Ask any sensible person.

On this forum everyone is told this or that and when it mattered in the air in 2019 the f-16s were used. I think you watch dcs too much
Arent we talking about missiles or the aircraft? PL-15 is in no way inferior to AIM-120C. But the way, American will never offer the best missile from their inventory to PAF.

Just PL-12 doesnt get the chance to fired upon on enemies doesnt mean its inferior compare to AIM-120C.
 
On this forum everyone is told this or that and when it mattered in the air in 2019 the f-16s were used. I think you watch dcs too much

What is your understanding of op swift retort. You think shooting down of Indian jets was primary target? How many F16s were employed to target the primary ground target? I got news for you, none. They are not capable to perform standoff missions. And that's where jf17 were deployed.

I think you are sucking on too much yank propaganda and F16 lobby within. Those IAF jets shootdown were the ones for which the approval came. There were 7 others which were locked but the authorization never came, and not all of them were in crosshairs of F16.
 
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What is your understanding of op swift retort. You think shooting down of Indian jets was primary target? How many F16s were employed to target the primary ground target? I got news for you, none. They are not capable to perform standoff missions. And that's where jf17 were deployed.

I think you are sucking on too much yank propaganda and F16 lobby within. Those IAF jets shootdown were the ones for which the approval came. There were 7 others which were locked but the authorization never came, and not all of them very in crosshairs of F16.
Precisely, shallow minded fanboy see only the surface. All they care is to see the physical fighting but a high tech electronic unseen, occurs on the battlefield are critical to win war , are unfolded.
 
This is really good news but how long will it take for PAF pilots to get accustomed to performing with heads up displays and off bore sight missiles. A change of tactics would likely be required. Its a major technological jump from anything in Pakistans inventory. Is PAF able to replicate these advances In simulator?

It's a game changer. PL15 will be a cheery on the top (with AESA). There is a lot that PAF pilots have to get accustomed to. This thing is carrying cutting edge tech borrowed from J20. F16 lobby within will die though, I say good riddance.
Precisely, shallow minded fanboy see only the surface. All they care is to see the physical fighting but a high tech electronic unseen, occurs on the battlefield are critical to win war , are unfolded.

These illiterates cant even even differentiate between primary and secondary targets in the mission profile. shooting down IAF jets were never planned, it happened as the mission evolved. Primary targets were the Indian military ground installations, where JF17s delivered their payload with precision.
 
What role will be lilely assigned to the F16? Im sure trump agreed to some sort of upgrade package for the existing F16
 
What role will be lilely assigned to the F16? Im sure trump agreed to some sort of upgrade package for the existing F16
I think under Biden administration will be very difficult to get any upgraded. Biden do not have good opinion of Pakistan.
 
International customers should be, must be watching this. The capabilities in a lightweight fighter are unmatched.
 
Marketing is quite poor for JF17. Although steadily improving with induction in DCS and participation in 27th Feb.
Its not about marketing but political obstacle too.
 
No clue.

While everyone was anticipating PL15 integration into JF, this came as a surprise. Block 1 and 2 are already surpassing in three main categories to present F16 fleet of PAF (As per Sohail Aman), block 3 with PL10 and perhaps PL15 will make F16s as second line fighters. There is zero chance that PAF f16 fleet will be upgraded with Aim-9x.

Pl-15 is there per many paf and pac folks interviews
 
Pl-15 is there per many paf and pac folks interviews

I know, but never been revealed in public. There is no authentic pic/video of JF carrying PL15.

We are talking about capability which even America currently do no posses and under development e.g AIM 260.
 

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