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China Says Hong Kong Protest Violence ‘Is Creation of U.S.’

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CIA at it again with their mind control...the weak-minded don’t stand a chance.

https://www.bloomberg.com/amp/news/...hong-kong-protest-violence-is-creation-of-u-s
  • Beijing lays direct blame on Washington for city’s unrest
  • Foreign Ministry notes ‘U.S. faces,’ American flags in crowds


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China said recent violence in Hong Kong protests was the “creation of the U.S.,” for the first time laying direct blame on Washington as their dispute over the unrest escalates.

Chinese Foreign Ministry spokeswoman Hua Chunying made the remark at a news briefing Tuesday in response to comments by U.S. Secretary of State Michael Pompeo. The top American diplomat had said Monday that he hoped “the Chinese will do the right thing” in managing the protests in Hong Kong.

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“It’s clear that Mr. Pompeo has put himself in the wrong position and still regards himself as the head of the CIA,” Hua said, referring to Pompeo’s previous role at the intelligence agency. “He might think that violent activities in Hong Kong are reasonable because after all, this is the creation of the U.S.”

The comments show the U.S.-China strains over Hong Kong are increasing, even as the two sides resume trade talks in Shanghai. Last week, Hua urged Washington to remove its “black hand” from the protests, a comment that the State Department dismissed as “ridiculous.”

Beijing has long attributed unrest in Hong Kong and other regions under its control to unspecified foreign forces, with the U.S. and the U.K. as the most obvious targets. Those complaints have increased in recent weeks as American and European governments and companies issue statements urging China to respect the rights of Hong Kong protesters critical of the government in the former British colony.

Pompeo is due to arrive in the region Wednesday to attend Association of Southeast Asian Nations meetings in Bangkok, where he may cross paths with his Chinese counterpart, Foreign Minister Wang Yi.

Tying the U.S. to the unrest could serve several purposes for Beijing, including discrediting the protesters, rallying mainland sentiment against them and potentially justifying more direct intervention. China’s top government agency overseeing the city on Monday reiterated that preventing Hong Kong from becoming a “base to undermine China” was one of its three “bottom lines.”

Pompeo was paraphrasing similar commentsby President Donald Trump while answering a question at the Economic Club of Washington, D.C., about how the U.S. would respond if China sent in the military to quell the unrest. Hong Kong is still reeling from a weekend of protest in which police fired tear gas at protesters, some of whom threw bricks and carried sticks.


In her remarks Tuesday, Hua noted that some demonstrators looked American and waved U.S. flags.

“In the media footage of the violent protests, many U.S. faces appeared among the protesters, even U.S. national flags at one point, Hua said. “What role does the U.S. play exactly in the recent Hong Kong protests? The U.S. owes the world an explanation on this matter.”

Harvey Sernovitz, a spokesman for the U.S. Consulate General in Hong Kong, said last week that the protests were rooted in the concerns of the city’s residents. “The ongoing demonstrations in Hong Kong reflect the sentiment of the people of Hong Kong and their broad concerns about the erosion of Hong Kong’s autonomy,” Sernovitz said
 
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the entire protest plot and steady provocation and the "reporting" shows that the west wants the Chinese to snap and do another Tiananmen square episode,
its good that china is not falling into the trap
the protests are fake and are continuing though foreign support.
 
the entire protest plot and steady provocation and the "reporting" shows that the west wants the Chinese to snap and do another Tiananmen square episode,
its good that china is not falling into the trap
the protests are fake and are continuing though foreign support.
One thing I don't understand that HK has a very high education level..how can they fall into such traps?
 
One thing I don't understand that HK has a very high education level..how can they fall into such traps?
The United States Consulate in Hong Kong has nearly 1000 staff.
I wonder why so many people are needed there.
 
The United States Consulate in Hong Kong has nearly 1000 staff.
I wonder why so many people are needed there.
That's too many but what is the law the about the number of personnel in an embassy.
Can China not expel them?
 
One thing I don't understand that HK has a very high education level..how can they fall into such traps?

Hong Kong was under the British for a 100 years the mindset of HKers are still with them sort of
 
One thing I don't understand that HK has a very high education level..how can they fall into such traps?
so I was reading an article on the rise of the third Reich in Germany. how it spread and took over the German society like a stormy revolution. it only amounted to little less than 10% of the population that took on the national narrative and the destiny of Germany. to outside world it appeared that the entire German population had become radicalized racist assholes hell bent on imposing its Arian hegemony on the free world. this is the magnified effect of effective propaganda and forming a social and public opinion

so in this Hong Kong case. the hardcore protesters that ransacked the Hong Kong parliament , classed with police and attacked public property don't make up more than few hundred but they have people with them who might have other grievances and they are there to vent their anger.

so in short the persistent protesters are not that many and those that are constantly looking for a fight are actually working for the west and they will quietly slip away if the clashes get any violent and China sends over its Garrison that is stationed outside the city. the cause of protests has been removed as announced by the Hong Kong administration which was a law about extradition on some cases but the troublesome protesters are now pushing it and want some reversal and times of the British colonial time. you can tell they give jack to the genuine concerns of the Hong Kong they just want to see Chinese forces open fire at the people cause serious social , economic and political turmoil
 
That's too many but what is the law the about the number of personnel in an embassy.
Can China not expel them?
No.
All U.S. embassies in China are legally counted as US territory and are secured by the U.S. Marine Corps Embassy Security Group. China cannot expel any of these staff.
 
No.
All U.S. embassies in China are legally counted as US territory and are secured by the U.S. Marine Corps Embassy Security Group. China cannot expel any of these staff.
USA cannot post a diplomat in hong kong without the consent of the Chinese government
 
USA cannot post a diplomat in hong kong without the consent of the Chinese government
But there is no precedent for the Chinese government to expel U.S. diplomats, whether they are spies or not.

I wonder if there is any precedent for the Chinese government to reject the diplomat of United States. Never heard.
 
But there is no precedent for the Chinese government to expel U.S. diplomats, whether they are spies or not.

What are you BSing ?? diplomats get expelled all the time
 
georgesoros
 
What are you BSing ?? diplomats get expelled all the time
I guess you are talking about something like the U.S. expels Russian diplomats.

This kind of thing has never been heard of in China. Although there are many such examples in other countries.
 
so I was reading an article on the rise of the third Reich in Germany. how it spread and took over the German society like a stormy revolution. it only amounted to little less than 10% of the population that took on the national narrative and the destiny of Germany. to outside world it appeared that the entire German population had become radicalized racist assholes hell bent on imposing its Arian hegemony on the free world. this is the magnified effect of effective propaganda and forming a social and public opinion
But sir, that was a very different time.. no internet..only radio and print media and that too in local languages. Also people were not aware of the conspiracies. BTW I met a few old German (85+ years) during my stay there and according to them, there was real sentiment against all the neighbours because they have ransacking Germany for centuries. Even Swedes (Vikings) used to attack Germany. So even those 10% had the blessings of the majority since it was seen as an organic reaction.

so in this Hong Kong case. the hardcore protesters that ransacked the Hong Kong parliament , classed with police and attacked public property don't make up more than few hundred but they have people with them who might have other grievances and they are there to vent their anger.
China has handled it wisely so far but let's see how long does it continue. And if Tianmen type situation arises..what can west do against China?

so in short the persistent protesters are not that many and those that are constantly looking for a fight are actually working for the west and they will quietly slip away if the clashes get any violent and China sends over its Garrison that is stationed outside the city. the cause of protests has been removed as announced by the Hong Kong administration which was a law about extradition on some cases but the troublesome protesters are now pushing it and want some reversal and times of the British colonial time. you can tell they give jack to the genuine concerns of the Hong Kong they just want to see Chinese forces open fire at the people cause serious social , economic and political turmoil
IBO can be used against those working on instructions from foreign handlers and this way massive losses can be avoided. I think west is trying all types of measures.
 
I guess you are talking about something like the U.S. expels Russian diplomats.

This kind of thing has never been heard of in China. Although there are many such examples in other countries.
every country does it - some quietly
some not so quietly
 

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