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India’s Hardly a Land of Opportunity
New research suggests the poor, especially Muslims, are stuck.

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Mihir Sharma
September 24, 2018, 6:00 PM EDT
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Indian Muslims haven’t turned to radicalization, yet. Photographer: Chandan Khanna/AFP/Getty Images
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India has never been the most egalitarian of societies. But because it’s a democracy, governments have at least tried to expand opportunities for its most deprived citizens: After all, their votes count as much as anyone else’s. New data suggests those efforts may be failing.



One way to judge progress in creating opportunities is to measure intergenerational mobility — the chances that you will do better than your parents have. Indians have long assumed that such mobility has been increasing over time. People from formerly disconnected areas, as well as from formerly disadvantaged social groups or castes, seem able to find ways to make better lives for themselves. India may be politically divided and socially stratified, but in theory, Indians of all creeds and colors can now get ahead by dint of individual enterprise.





Recent research from economists at the World Bank, Dartmouth University and the Massachusetts Institute of Technology calls those comfortable assumptions into question. The study’s authors used a new way of calculating social mobility — the expected income at adulthood of a child born to parents in the bottom half of the income distribution — that makes up for gaps and flaws in the data. The results show that, by and large, intergenerational mobility has remained stagnant for Indians since the economy was liberalized in 1991.



That’s bad enough; liberalization was supposed to have increased opportunities, not frozen them in place. Closer examination reveals an even more worrying picture. Geographically, large parts of India are doing particularly badly — more rural areas, those in the underdeveloped north, and those with fewer good high schools. Prime Minister Narendra Modi ran in 2014 on his record as chief minister of Gujarat. Researchers single out that state by name as one “with very high income growth but relatively low mobility.”



Demographically, the picture is even worse. It turns out that for one group mobility is actually declining: Indian Muslims. Their prospects are awful even when compared to historically disadvantaged groups elsewhere: For example, Indian Muslim children born into the bottom half of the income distribution are likely to wind up at a far lower position as adults than African-American children born into equivalent circumstances. For upper-caste Hindus, meanwhile, income mobility is already relatively high and has been increasing over time.

In some sense, this shouldn’t be news. More than a decade ago, the left-leaning Congress government in India commissioned an investigation into the economic status of Indian Muslims, led by a former chief justice of the Delhi High Court. The Sachar Committee report discovered that Muslims had much lower expenditure per capita than other communities, that Muslim men had fewer employment opportunities, that they were hired at a far lower rate for government jobs, and so on.

The extraordinary range of disadvantages, and the poorer outcomes, suffered by Indian Muslims came as a shock to liberal Indians. In response, then-Prime Minister Manmohan Singh ordered the government to develop programs targeted at Muslims and decreed that those plans should have first call on scarce government resources.

What is legitimately shocking is the hysteria this statement continues to produce. It’s viewed as definitive proof that some political parties care only about Muslims — which is clearly untrue, given that no party would commit electoral suicide by focusing only on 14 percent of the population. Modi still brings up Singh’s words as evidence for his claim that “Congress is a party of Muslim men.”

found that Muslims get called for job interviews at one-third the rate of upper-caste Hindus with the same qualifications. Sociologists have delineated how Muslims are ghettoized in the older parts of cities, losing out on opportunities in a growing economy.

Meanwhile, any social schemes targeted at improving the lot of Muslims are politically toxic, as they expose politicians to the charge that they’re seeking to “appease” Muslim voters.

India’s relatively free and open democracy means that, in spite of all this, Indian Muslims haven’t yet succumbed to frustration and violent radicalization. But Indians can’t afford to comfort themselves that things are inexorably headed in the right direction. The country doesn’t just need jobs; it need jobs that are open to all, especially those that are at the bottom of the social pyramid. Without equality of opportunity, India could well become a tinderbox.

https://www.bloomberg.com/view/articles/2018-09-24/india-s-poor-don-t-have-a-chance-to-get-rich
 
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India’s Hardly a Land of Opportunity
New research suggests the poor, especially Muslims, are stuck.

By
Mihir Sharma
September 24, 2018, 6:00 PM EDT
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India has never been the most egalitarian of societies. But because it’s a democracy, governments have at least tried to expand opportunities for its most deprived citizens: After all, their votes count as much as anyone else’s. New data suggests those efforts may be failing.



One way to judge progress in creating opportunities is to measure intergenerational mobility — the chances that you will do better than your parents have. Indians have long assumed that such mobility has been increasing over time. People from formerly disconnected areas, as well as from formerly disadvantaged social groups or castes, seem able to find ways to make better lives for themselves. India may be politically divided and socially stratified, but in theory, Indians of all creeds and colors can now get ahead by dint of individual enterprise.





Recent research from economists at the World Bank, Dartmouth University and the Massachusetts Institute of Technology calls those comfortable assumptions into question. The study’s authors used a new way of calculating social mobility — the expected income at adulthood of a child born to parents in the bottom half of the income distribution — that makes up for gaps and flaws in the data. The results show that, by and large, intergenerational mobility has remained stagnant for Indians since the economy was liberalized in 1991.



That’s bad enough; liberalization was supposed to have increased opportunities, not frozen them in place. Closer examination reveals an even more worrying picture. Geographically, large parts of India are doing particularly badly — more rural areas, those in the underdeveloped north, and those with fewer good high schools. Prime Minister Narendra Modi ran in 2014 on his record as chief minister of Gujarat. Researchers single out that state by name as one “with very high income growth but relatively low mobility.”



Demographically, the picture is even worse. It turns out that for one group mobility is actually declining: Indian Muslims. Their prospects are awful even when compared to historically disadvantaged groups elsewhere: For example, Indian Muslim children born into the bottom half of the income distribution are likely to wind up at a far lower position as adults than African-American children born into equivalent circumstances. For upper-caste Hindus, meanwhile, income mobility is already relatively high and has been increasing over time.

In some sense, this shouldn’t be news. More than a decade ago, the left-leaning Congress government in India commissioned an investigation into the economic status of Indian Muslims, led by a former chief justice of the Delhi High Court. The Sachar Committee report discovered that Muslims had much lower expenditure per capita than other communities, that Muslim men had fewer employment opportunities, that they were hired at a far lower rate for government jobs, and so on.

The extraordinary range of disadvantages, and the poorer outcomes, suffered by Indian Muslims came as a shock to liberal Indians. In response, then-Prime Minister Manmohan Singh ordered the government to develop programs targeted at Muslims and decreed that those plans should have first call on scarce government resources.

What is legitimately shocking is the hysteria this statement continues to produce. It’s viewed as definitive proof that some political parties care only about Muslims — which is clearly untrue, given that no party would commit electoral suicide by focusing only on 14 percent of the population. Modi still brings up Singh’s words as evidence for his claim that “Congress is a party of Muslim men.”

found that Muslims get called for job interviews at one-third the rate of upper-caste Hindus with the same qualifications. Sociologists have delineated how Muslims are ghettoized in the older parts of cities, losing out on opportunities in a growing economy.

Meanwhile, any social schemes targeted at improving the lot of Muslims are politically toxic, as they expose politicians to the charge that they’re seeking to “appease” Muslim voters.

India’s relatively free and open democracy means that, in spite of all this, Indian Muslims haven’t yet succumbed to frustration and violent radicalization. But Indians can’t afford to comfort themselves that things are inexorably headed in the right direction. The country doesn’t just need jobs; it need jobs that are open to all, especially those that are at the bottom of the social pyramid. Without equality of opportunity, India could well become a tinderbox.

https://www.bloomberg.com/

#FakeNews, opportunity was invented in india. This is only 11 years away;


Pakistani's will beg indians for jobs
 
What a stupid study.

The median income of African-Americans is $40000. It will take us Hindus itself about 60 years to reach that level.

But it's good that India is now being compared to America and not sub-Saharan Africa.
 
What a stupid study.

The median income of African-Americans is $40000. It will take us Hindus itself about 60 years to reach that level.

But it's good that India is now being compared to America and not sub-Saharan Africa.
lol had it been something anti-Pakistani, you would be jumping up and down saying it is true, blah, blah.

Now when there is an article that says there is a social problem in India it becomes a stupid study.

The hypocrisy of Indians never fails to amuse me. ;)
 
Dont worry, those who cant rise jn india can always achive greqtness in Pakistan. A nation made for Indian muslims.

Examples,

Muhammad ali Jinnah, our own Gujju baniya. The founder of pakistan.

Liaqat ali, desi boy of Haryana, forst pm of pakistan.

Musharraf, Punjabi in exile at delhi, formee supreme leader of pakistan etc.
Buddy, that time for accepting Indian Muslim refugees are over.

India must accept its Muslim minority.

There is no choice now. lol.

No doubt Muslim Pakistanis and Bangladeshis are doing better than Indian Muslim in socio-economic indicators.

Dont worry, those who cant rise jn india can always achive greqtness in Pakistan. A nation made for Indian muslims.

Examples,

Muhammad ali Jinnah, our own Gujju baniya. The founder of pakistan.

Liaqat ali, desi boy of Haryana, forst pm of pakistan.

Musharraf, Punjabi in exile at delhi, formee supreme leader of pakistan etc.


You guys are already doing that.

Katraina kaif, Veena malik, rawalpindi express, Wasim Akram etc.

Many models from you country works as bikini models here in mumbai.
Wow you mentioned one Veena Malik.

We all know how Indian women dress...like public property in mumbai brothels. lol.

You do realize most Pakistanis are against actors and actresses working in bollywood.

Those Pakistanis who do, do it only for fame and money.

They are sellouts.

I never watch bollywood shit.

Even Japanese anime is better than bollywood. lol.

Shes not alone.

She is not a Pakistani or of Pakistani decent. Why are you mentioning her?

Shes not alone.

She is not a Pakistani or of Pakistani decent. Why are you mentioning her. She is Indian decent and a British subject?
 
lol had it been something anti-Pakistani, you would be jumping up and down saying it is true, blah, blah.

Now when there is an article that says there is a social problem in India it becomes a stupid study.

The hypocrisy of Indians never fails to amuse me. ;)

The Indian Muslims have a better future in India than in Pakistan, that's for sure.
 
The Indian Muslims have a better future in India than in Pakistan, that's for sure.
LOL what a BULLSHIT claim?

Indian Muslims are lynched for eating beef. Please come back with some substantial evidence that Indians Muslims are economically better off and have better opportunities than Pakistanis and Bangladeshis.

Other than that you are spewing crap! :lol:

News sites claims her to be pakistani sovshes pakistani. But it dosnt matter much ti me, Desi Muslims are all one amd same to me.

:)
Show me which news site?

Wikipedia claims Sofia Hayat to be an Indian by descent and a British subject.

Don't try to spread lies here, you will be caught.
 
A filthy disgusting country is what India represent. Rape, discrimination, racism, exploitation, caste belief system, lynching, murder etc. These animals are the worst scum roaming on earth.

I wish we could unleash our nukes on these savages to cleanse the planet.

LOL what a BULLSHIT claim?

Indian Muslims are lynched for eating beef. Please come back with some substantial evidence that Indians Muslims are economically better off and have better opportunities than Pakistanis and Bangladeshis.

Other than that you are spewing crap! :lol:


Show me which news site?

Wikipedia claims Sofia Hayat to be an Indian by descent and a British subject.

Don't try to spread lies here, you will be caught.

This whore is as Indian as it gets:

Sofia Hayat is an actress, model, singer and a former nun who worked in British and Indian projects. She is a British national of Indian descent.

Sofia has declared that she is a devout of Lord Ganesha and Lord Shiva LOL

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sofia_Hayat
 
A filthy disgusting country is what India represent. Rape, discrimination, racism, exploitation, caste belief system, lynching, murder etc. These animals are the worst scum roaming on earth.

I wish we could unleash our nukes on these savages to cleanse the planet.



This whore is as Indian as it gets:

Sofia Hayat is an actress, model, singer and a former nun who worked in British and Indian projects. She is a British national of Indian descent.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sofia_Hayat
That is what I thought too. Sofia Hayat is an Indian of British citizenship.
 
Lol...have you seen indian bollywood.. most superstars are Muslims....
Have you seen BJP the biggest political party of world...most of BJP speakers are Muslim...
India's 3 Rd richest person is Muslim...Ajim Premji

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islam_in_India
 
It's like these people have never heard of Azim Premji or Abdul Kalam.
 
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