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What lies behind Turkish Defence Industry Success ???

frijettes? mowin? small things but weird.
 
Please forgive me for being blunt, key components still heavily relies on west. You can make weapons, but far from first class yet.
Very good progress though.
 

This is footage from the 1997 coup. At the end of the video it is explained that in the coming decades there will be a mass modernization of the Turkish military. He explains that domestic helicopter and tank projects are on the way.
 
This is footage from the 1997 coup. At the end of the video it is explained that in the coming decades there will be a mass modernization of the Turkish military. He explains that domestic helicopter and tank projects are on the way.

General CEVIK BIR and 30 other officers were taken in custody for their role in the 1997 military memorandum that forced the Turkish government led by the Refah Party (ERBAKAN ) to step down ..... a coup ordered by Israel
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in 1997 Albanian origin General CEVIK BIR has agreed with Israel $100 billion weapon sale and modernization in 20-25 years

-- 54 F-4 Jets modernization
-- 170 M-60T Tank modernization
-- Production of hundreds of POPEYE Cruise Missiles
-- etc etc

The tender for the modernization of 170 M60 Tanks was awarded to Israeli IMI in 2000
The cost of a M60T Tank came to us $ 4.5 million. The cost of the Leopard-2 Tanks we bought from Germany came to $ 1 million
( Although the cost of the project was determined as $290 million in 2000, the cost of the project has increased to $687 million )


but in 2002 ERDOGAN won election and in 2004 ERDOGAN has decided to develop national defense industry instead of $100 billion weapon sale and modernization with Israel and other under license production projects like Tank,Attack Helicopter,UCAV

led by ERDOGAN Turkish military projects have risen to almost 700 from 66 between 2002 and 2020
( Israel doesnt have 700 military projects )
 
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General CEVIK BIR and 30 other officers were taken in custody for their role in the 1997 military memorandum that forced the then Turkish governmen led by the Refah Party (ERBAKAN ) to step down ..... a coup ordered by Israel
2bf2e8f786542721a7e0667abac7d80e.jpg


in 1997 Albanian origin General CEVIK BIR has agreed with Israel $100 billion weapon sale and modernization in 20-25 years

-- 54 F-4 Jets modernization
-- 170 M-60T Tank modernization
-- Production of hundreds of POPEYE Cruise Missiles
-- etc etc

The tender for the modernization of 170 M60 Tanks was awarded to Israeli IMI in 2000
The cost of a M60T Tank came to us $ 4.5 million. The cost of the Leopard-2 Tanks we bought from Germany came to $ 1 million
( Although the cost of the project was determined as $290 million in 2000, the cost of the project has increased to $687 million )


but in 2002 ERDOGAN won election and in 2004 ERDOGAN has decided to develop national defense industry instead of $100 billion weapon sale and modernization with Israel

led by ERDOGAN Turkish military projects have risen to almost 700 from 20 between 2002 and 2020
( Israel doesnt have 700 military projects )


Dude you're lying and you know it. He literally states that tank and helicopter projects are in the works. Don't credit decades of defence industry research and development to Erdoğan, it's plain wrong.
 
Dude you're lying and you know it. He literally states that tank and helicopter projects are in the works. Don't credit decades of defence industry research and development to Erdoğan, it's plain wrong.

Erdogan or not the job of the government is to fund these projects. If only we had more militaristic minds they would increase it even more.

Chp or akp are not militaristic minded it pisses me off.
 
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Dude you're lying and you know it. He literally states that tank and helicopter projects are in the works. Don't credit decades of defence industry research and development to Erdoğan, it's plain wrong.

Dude , anti-ERDOGAN Guys are biased

before ERDOGAN only under license production in Turkey

TANK PROJECT
In the Tank project which will be the main contractor of the Turkish companies, Leopard-2 of Germany, LECREC of France, M1A1 ABRAMS of the US and OPLOT-M of Ukraine Tanks were tried, but the licensing company could not be selected
( even Turkish Army was planning to buy OPLOT-M Tank from Ukraine but withdrew from it in favor of developing the Altay Tank ..... and ALTAY Tank project was initiated in 2007 )


ATTACK HELICOPTER PROJECT
It was agreed in 2000 that the contract negotiations started with the American Bell Helicopter Textron company, and if the negotiations with Bell Helicopter Textron could not be achieved, then negotiations with the Russian Kamov and Israeli IAI firms

even Bell and Kamov firms named the Helicopter as ERDOGAN

T-129 ATAK project was initiated in 2007


UAV-UCAV
Within the scope of the project, it was planned to supply 7 operative and 2 strategic unmanned aerial systems. The main contractor of the program would be the domestic company (single company or consortium). The foreign company (single company or consortium) to be co-produced was determined as the subcontractor (foreign subcontractor) to the main contractor

But no any foreign company joined to the project
and TAI has developed ANKA UCAV without any foreign helping and the project was initiated in 2004


ALTAY, T129 ATAK , ANKA ,SOM and other hundreds of national military projects were initiated after the 2004 Defense Industry Enforcement Committee meeting led by ERDOGAN


2004 Savunma Sanayii Icraa Komitesi toplantısı milad oldu
2004 Defense Industry Enforcement Committee meeting became the starting to develop national defense industry

-- mevcut modellerle uzun süredir sonuçlandırılamayan modern tank, taarruz taktik keşif helikopteri ve insansız hava araçları projelerinin mevcut ihalelerinin iptal edilmesine karar verildi

-- Söz konusu projeler için milli imkanların azami kullanımı ile yurtiçi üretimi ve özgün tasarımı esas alan yeni tedarik modellerinin oluşturulmasına ve Türk Silahlı Kuvvetleri ihtiyaçlarının bu modeller çerçevesinde karşılanmasına, bu çalışmalarda yerli-yabancı ortak girişimleri, yurtiçi firmalarımızın daha etkin olabilmelerini sağlayacak imkanların hazırlanmasına karar verilmiştir

https://www.hurriyet.com.tr/ekonomi/tank-ve-helikopter-ihaleleri-iptal-edildi-225670
 
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Dude you're lying and you know it. He literally states that tank and helicopter projects are in the works. Don't credit decades of defence industry research and development to Erdoğan, it's plain wrong.

I don't know about Turkish politics but I believe that military R&D in aviation was stepped up exponentially in 2001 or 2002.
 

This is footage from the 1997 coup. At the end of the video it is explained that in the coming decades there will be a mass modernization of the Turkish military. He explains that domestic helicopter and tank projects are on the way.
Dude...
 
I don't know about Turkish politics but I believe that military R&D in aviation was stepped up exponentially in 2001 or 2002.

It was killed in the 50s. It gradually started coming back since the 70s. The Turkish defence industry was bearing fruit in the 90s. However we really saw the results in the last decade or so.

Good things take time.
 
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