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What do the Taliban really want and why is it not easy for Pakistan to fight them? The Associated Press carried an article on December 17: “Peshawar Terror attack: What does Pakistan Taliban want?

Answering the question, the report said: “The TTP has vowed to overthrow the government and install a harsh form of Islamic law.”
On CNN, Laura Smith-Spark and Tim Lister (“What do the Taliban want?”) reported: “When the siege finally ended, Pakistan was left reeling and the world wondering: Who would do such a thing? And what do they hope to achieve? The identity of the group behind the massacre at the army-run school in Peshawar is no mystery. The Pakistan Taliban — who have long conducted an insurgency against the Pakistani government as they seek to overthrow the authorities and bring in Sharia law — were quick to claim the terror attack.”
James Rush wrote in The Independent (“Who are the Taliban and what do they want?“): “The Pakistani Taliban have been fighting to topple the government and set up a strict Islamic state. Following a major army operation against insurgents in tribal areas, the group has vowed to step up its attacks.”

This same question has long been asked in the English press. Hamida Ghafour reporting forThe National in 2010 (“What do the Taliban really want?“) wrote about the Afghan Taliban: “But who are the Taliban, and what do they want? Zabiullah Mujahid, a spokesman for Mullah Omar, the one-eyed leader of the Afghan Taliban, said in an interview with CNN last year: “We ask from the beginning and we say once again: to enforce the sharia law and Islamic government in Afghanistan, to remove foreign forces from our country.”

Arthur Bright in the Christian Science Monitor in 2012 (“Who are the Taliban and what do they want?“) quoted an expert saying this of the Taliban’s funding: “A large majority … is thought to derive from wealthy individuals living in Arab Gulf states … Insurgents may also use the Hajj — the Muslim pilgrimage to Mecca — as a time to raise funds. These ties to Gulf-based militants may account for al Qaeda’s influence over some groups.”

Two things are obvious. First, what the Taliban really want is Shariah law and two, they are not a wild and isolated group but one with proper financing. The question is why they make that demand. The answer is in the law. The Pakistani Constitution’s Article 227 (Islamic Provisions, Part IX) reads: “(1) All existing laws shall be brought in conformity with the Injunctions of Islam as laid down in the Holy Quran and Sunnah, in this Part referred to as the Injunctions of Islam, and no law shall be enacted which is repugnant to such Injunctions.”

This commitment is clear and unambiguous. It comes from a promise in 1949 made by Pakistan’s Constituent Assembly under Jinnah’s successor, Liaquat Ali Khan. That text, the Objectives Resolution, reads: “Whereas sovereignty over the entire Universe belongs to Almighty Allah alone, and the authority to be exercised by the people of Pakistan within the limits prescribed by Him is a sacred trust;

And whereas it is the will of the people of Pakistan to establish an order: Wherein the State shall exercise its powers and authority through the chosen representatives of the people; Wherein the principles of democracy, freedom, equality, tolerance and social justice, as enunciated by Islam, shall be fully observed; Wherein the Muslims shall be enabled to order their lives in the individual and collective spheres in accordance with the teachings and requirements of Islam as set out in the Holy Quran and Sunnah.”

Despite this, Pakistan’s laws are mostly the same as secular India’s, which in turn are mostly the same as the colonial British under Macaulay had written them in the mid-19th century. In the 1980s, President Ziaul Haq introduced some Islamic laws. This included such things as lashing people caught with alcohol, and laws on rape and on blood money. Many of these laws are on the book but not really put into practice because the Pakistani state is unwilling to turn the clock back. The analyst Khaled Ahmed calls Pakistan an incompletely Islamised state. Meaning that the promise of full Shariah has been withheld, leading to a lack of clarity exploited by the Taliban.

To answer the question that analysts have been scratching their head over: what the Taliban really want is implementation of Pakistan’s Constitution. That is why it is difficult to fight them — because they say they are right on the question of law. No fight against them will succeed, or can even be properly started, unless the confusion over the Constitution and its promise is resolved.
http://tribune.com.pk/story/809899/what-do-the-taliban-want/

It should be obvious by now that source of all terrorism and religious extremism in Pakistan is Liaquat Ali Khan's Objectives Resolution that was countered by Pakistani first cabinet's non-Muslim leader of the opposition in his own words:

In my conception of state where people of different religion live there is no place for religion in the state. Its position must be neutral: no bias for any religion. If necessary, it should help all the religions equally. No question of concession or tolerance to any religion. It smacks of inferiority complex. The state must respect all religions: no smiling face for one and askance look to the other. The state religion is a dangerous principle. Previous instances are sufficient to warn us not to repeat the blunder. We know people were burnt alive in the name of religion. Therefore, my conception is that the sovereignty must rest with the people and not with anybody else....[T]he words "equal rights as enunciated by Islam" are—I do not use any other word—a camouflage. It is only a hoax to us, the non-Muslims. There cannot be equal rights as enunciated by Islam. It goes without saying that by introducing the religious question, the differences between the majority and the minority are being perpetuated, for how long, nobody knows. And, as apprehended by us, the difficulty of interpretation has already arisen. The accepted principle is that the majority, by their fair treatment, must create confidence in the minority. Whereas the Honorable mover of the resolution promises respect, in place of charity or sufferance for the minority community the deputy minister, Dr. Qureshi, advises the minority to win the goodwill of the majority by their behavior. In the House of the Legislature also we find that, while the prime minister keeps perfectly to his dictum, others cannot brook that the opposition should function in the spirit of opposition. The demand is that the opposition should remain submissive. That is Dr. Qureshi’s way of thinking. The minorities must be grateful for all the benevolence they get and must never complain for the malevolence that may also be dealt out to them. That is his solution of the minority problem.
Sris Chandra Chattopadhyaya
Objectives Resolution - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

When a majority of legislators ignore their elected opposition's rightful concern, futuristic disasters become inevitable! Such is the case with Taliban and other religious extremists in Pakistan!

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.....................It should be obvious by now that source of all terrorism and religious extremism in Pakistan is Liaquat Ali Khan's Objectives Resolution.............

That Resolution sowed the seeds of Pakistan's destruction, as I have pointed out many times here on PDF. Now the tree is fully grown and bearing its bitter fruit.
 
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What do the Taliban really want and why is it not easy for Pakistan to fight them? The Associated Press carried an article on December 17: “Peshawar Terror attack: What does Pakistan Taliban want?

Answering the question, the report said: “The TTP has vowed to overthrow the government and install a harsh form of Islamic law.”
On CNN, Laura Smith-Spark and Tim Lister (“What do the Taliban want?”) reported: “When the siege finally ended, Pakistan was left reeling and the world wondering: Who would do such a thing? And what do they hope to achieve? The identity of the group behind the massacre at the army-run school in Peshawar is no mystery. The Pakistan Taliban — who have long conducted an insurgency against the Pakistani government as they seek to overthrow the authorities and bring in Sharia law — were quick to claim the terror attack.”
James Rush wrote in The Independent (“Who are the Taliban and what do they want?“): “The Pakistani Taliban have been fighting to topple the government and set up a strict Islamic state. Following a major army operation against insurgents in tribal areas, the group has vowed to step up its attacks.”

This same question has long been asked in the English press. Hamida Ghafour reporting forThe National in 2010 (“What do the Taliban really want?“) wrote about the Afghan Taliban: “But who are the Taliban, and what do they want? Zabiullah Mujahid, a spokesman for Mullah Omar, the one-eyed leader of the Afghan Taliban, said in an interview with CNN last year: “We ask from the beginning and we say once again: to enforce the sharia law and Islamic government in Afghanistan, to remove foreign forces from our country.”

Arthur Bright in the Christian Science Monitor in 2012 (“Who are the Taliban and what do they want?“) quoted an expert saying this of the Taliban’s funding: “A large majority … is thought to derive from wealthy individuals living in Arab Gulf states … Insurgents may also use the Hajj — the Muslim pilgrimage to Mecca — as a time to raise funds. These ties to Gulf-based militants may account for al Qaeda’s influence over some groups.”

Two things are obvious. First, what the Taliban really want is Shariah law and two, they are not a wild and isolated group but one with proper financing. The question is why they make that demand. The answer is in the law. The Pakistani Constitution’s Article 227 (Islamic Provisions, Part IX) reads: “(1) All existing laws shall be brought in conformity with the Injunctions of Islam as laid down in the Holy Quran and Sunnah, in this Part referred to as the Injunctions of Islam, and no law shall be enacted which is repugnant to such Injunctions.”

This commitment is clear and unambiguous. It comes from a promise in 1949 made by Pakistan’s Constituent Assembly under Jinnah’s successor, Liaquat Ali Khan. That text, the Objectives Resolution, reads: “Whereas sovereignty over the entire Universe belongs to Almighty Allah alone, and the authority to be exercised by the people of Pakistan within the limits prescribed by Him is a sacred trust;

And whereas it is the will of the people of Pakistan to establish an order: Wherein the State shall exercise its powers and authority through the chosen representatives of the people; Wherein the principles of democracy, freedom, equality, tolerance and social justice, as enunciated by Islam, shall be fully observed; Wherein the Muslims shall be enabled to order their lives in the individual and collective spheres in accordance with the teachings and requirements of Islam as set out in the Holy Quran and Sunnah.”

Despite this, Pakistan’s laws are mostly the same as secular India’s, which in turn are mostly the same as the colonial British under Macaulay had written them in the mid-19th century. In the 1980s, President Ziaul Haq introduced some Islamic laws. This included such things as lashing people caught with alcohol, and laws on rape and on blood money. Many of these laws are on the book but not really put into practice because the Pakistani state is unwilling to turn the clock back. The analyst Khaled Ahmed calls Pakistan an incompletely Islamised state. Meaning that the promise of full Shariah has been withheld, leading to a lack of clarity exploited by the Taliban.

To answer the question that analysts have been scratching their head over: what the Taliban really want is implementation of Pakistan’s Constitution. That is why it is difficult to fight them — because they say they are right on the question of law. No fight against them will succeed, or can even be properly started, unless the confusion over the Constitution and its promise is resolved.
http://tribune.com.pk/story/809899/what-do-the-taliban-want/

It should be obvious by now that source of all terrorism and religious extremism in Pakistan is Liaquat Ali Khan's Objectives Resolution that was countered by Pakistani first cabinet's non-Muslim leader of the opposition in his own words:


Sris Chandra Chattopadhyaya
Objectives Resolution - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

When a majority of legislators ignore their elected opposition's rightful concern, futuristic disasters become inevitable! Such is the case with Taliban and other religious extremists in Pakistan!

@hacsan @TankMan @Etilla @Srinivas @desert warrior @pumkinduke @wolfpack @rubyjackass @A.Rafay @Ahmad1996 @airmarshal @Armstrong @arushbhai @AstanoshKhan @AZADPAKISTAN2009 @balixd @batmannow @Bilal. @chauvunist @Crypto @Dr. Stranglove @Evil Flare @EyanKhan @Fahad Khan 2 @GIANTsasquatch @graphican @Green Arrow @Guleen Ahmed @HRK @Jazzbot @Junaid B @Jzaib @Khalidr @khawaja07 @Leader @Luftwaffe @Marshmallow @mr42O @Muhammad Omar @nomi007 @Pak123 @Pakistani shaheens @Pakistanisage @Peaceful Civilian @pkuser2k12 @PWFI @raazh @Rafael @Rashid Mahmood @RescueRanger @Saifkhan12 @Sedqal @SHAMK9 @Stealth @Strike X @SUPARCO @syedali73 @Tameem @Tayyab1796 @Zarvan @AdeelFaheem @Rajput_Pakistani @Men in Green @orakzai4u @IceCold @LoveIcon @razahassan1997 @Cheetah786 @Dil Pakistan @asq @junaid hamza @Pukhtoon @jamahir @Strigon @Rafi @Ulla @420canada @sathya @HughSlaman @slapshot @raza_888 @SBD-3 @cb4 @AsianUnion @Aether @Proudpakistaniguy @WishLivePak @Waffen SS @Fracker @Ranches @ghoul @Jf Thunder @GreenFalcon @genmirajborgza786 @orangzaib @Pakistani Exile @KURUMAYA @Irfan Baloch @ali_raza @Syed.Ali.Haider @Patriots @muslim_pakistani @W.11 @Meengla @zaid butt @ajpirzada @Shoaib Rathore @CHARGER @yesboss @TheNoob @Bratva @Viny @StormShadow @suresh1773 @SOHEIL @Force-India @faisal6309 @S.U.R.B. @vsdave2302 @jarves @WAJsal @Winchester @janon @pak-marine @Donatello @Darth Vader @wolfschanzze @TheFlyingPretzel @DRAY @narcon @FaujHistorian @1000 @FNFAL @gau8av @abhi21 @naveen mishra @Kunwar Anurag Rathore @AgNoStiC MuSliM @LeveragedBuyout @MastanKhan @Agent Smith @shuntmaster @Slav Defence @sur @XenoEnsi-14 @DESERT FIGHTER @p100 @BDforever @hunter_hunted @Mav3rick @rockstar08 @asad71 @Major Sam @Faizan Memon @Spy Master @ozzy22 @Manticore @war khan @Afridistan @Razia Sultana @madmusti @ghazaliy2k @Khalid Newazi @Ammyy @bloo @Marxist @karan.1970 @thesolar65 @Not Sure @Arav_Rana @Avik274 @SamantK @Major Shaitan Singh @Omega007 @farhan_9909 @haviZsultan @Sidak @ranjeet @Yogijaat @Ravi Nair @WAR-rior @he-man @Indrani @Mike_Brando @SarthakGanguly @sreekumar @Pakistani shaheens @ChennaiDude @Akheilos @Hyperion @Soumitra @TimeTraveller @pursuit of happiness @TankMan @T-123456 @madooxno9 @scorpionx @Capt.Popeye @Tridibans @christian warrior @GR!FF!N @SpArK @utraash @Falcon29 @levina @Jf Thunder @Metanoia @halupridol @Krate M @dexter @jbgt90 @Pride @Star Wars @ROCKING @waleed3601 @ShowGun @danish_vij @manojb @Wolfhound @Koovie @KingMamba @venu309 @Pak_Sher @OrionHunter @Dr. NooB NinjA @UDAYCAMPU
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What do the Taliban really want and why is it not easy for Pakistan to fight them? The Associated Press carried an article on December 17: “Peshawar Terror attack: What does Pakistan Taliban want?

Answering the question, the report said: “The TTP has vowed to overthrow the government and install a harsh form of Islamic law.”
On CNN, Laura Smith-Spark and Tim Lister (“What do the Taliban want?”) reported: “When the siege finally ended, Pakistan was left reeling and the world wondering: Who would do such a thing? And what do they hope to achieve? The identity of the group behind the massacre at the army-run school in Peshawar is no mystery. The Pakistan Taliban — who have long conducted an insurgency against the Pakistani government as they seek to overthrow the authorities and bring in Sharia law — were quick to claim the terror attack.”
James Rush wrote in The Independent (“Who are the Taliban and what do they want?“): “The Pakistani Taliban have been fighting to topple the government and set up a strict Islamic state. Following a major army operation against insurgents in tribal areas, the group has vowed to step up its attacks.”

This same question has long been asked in the English press. Hamida Ghafour reporting forThe National in 2010 (“What do the Taliban really want?“) wrote about the Afghan Taliban: “But who are the Taliban, and what do they want? Zabiullah Mujahid, a spokesman for Mullah Omar, the one-eyed leader of the Afghan Taliban, said in an interview with CNN last year: “We ask from the beginning and we say once again: to enforce the sharia law and Islamic government in Afghanistan, to remove foreign forces from our country.”

Arthur Bright in the Christian Science Monitor in 2012 (“Who are the Taliban and what do they want?“) quoted an expert saying this of the Taliban’s funding: “A large majority … is thought to derive from wealthy individuals living in Arab Gulf states … Insurgents may also use the Hajj — the Muslim pilgrimage to Mecca — as a time to raise funds. These ties to Gulf-based militants may account for al Qaeda’s influence over some groups.”

Two things are obvious. First, what the Taliban really want is Shariah law and two, they are not a wild and isolated group but one with proper financing. The question is why they make that demand. The answer is in the law. The Pakistani Constitution’s Article 227 (Islamic Provisions, Part IX) reads: “(1) All existing laws shall be brought in conformity with the Injunctions of Islam as laid down in the Holy Quran and Sunnah, in this Part referred to as the Injunctions of Islam, and no law shall be enacted which is repugnant to such Injunctions.”

This commitment is clear and unambiguous. It comes from a promise in 1949 made by Pakistan’s Constituent Assembly under Jinnah’s successor, Liaquat Ali Khan. That text, the Objectives Resolution, reads: “Whereas sovereignty over the entire Universe belongs to Almighty Allah alone, and the authority to be exercised by the people of Pakistan within the limits prescribed by Him is a sacred trust;

And whereas it is the will of the people of Pakistan to establish an order: Wherein the State shall exercise its powers and authority through the chosen representatives of the people; Wherein the principles of democracy, freedom, equality, tolerance and social justice, as enunciated by Islam, shall be fully observed; Wherein the Muslims shall be enabled to order their lives in the individual and collective spheres in accordance with the teachings and requirements of Islam as set out in the Holy Quran and Sunnah.”

Despite this, Pakistan’s laws are mostly the same as secular India’s, which in turn are mostly the same as the colonial British under Macaulay had written them in the mid-19th century. In the 1980s, President Ziaul Haq introduced some Islamic laws. This included such things as lashing people caught with alcohol, and laws on rape and on blood money. Many of these laws are on the book but not really put into practice because the Pakistani state is unwilling to turn the clock back. The analyst Khaled Ahmed calls Pakistan an incompletely Islamised state. Meaning that the promise of full Shariah has been withheld, leading to a lack of clarity exploited by the Taliban.

To answer the question that analysts have been scratching their head over: what the Taliban really want is implementation of Pakistan’s Constitution. That is why it is difficult to fight them — because they say they are right on the question of law. No fight against them will succeed, or can even be properly started, unless the confusion over the Constitution and its promise is resolved.
http://tribune.com.pk/story/809899/what-do-the-taliban-want/

It should be obvious by now that source of all terrorism and religious extremism in Pakistan is Liaquat Ali Khan's Objectives Resolution that was countered by Pakistani first cabinet's non-Muslim leader of the opposition in his own words:


Sris Chandra Chattopadhyaya
Objectives Resolution - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

When a majority of legislators ignore their elected opposition's rightful concern, futuristic disasters become inevitable! Such is the case with Taliban and other religious extremists in Pakistan!

@hacsan @TankMan @Etilla @Srinivas @desert warrior @pumkinduke @wolfpack @rubyjackass @A.Rafay @Ahmad1996 @airmarshal @Armstrong @arushbhai @AstanoshKhan @AZADPAKISTAN2009 @balixd @batmannow @Bilal. @chauvunist @Crypto @Dr. Stranglove @Evil Flare @EyanKhan @Fahad Khan 2 @GIANTsasquatch @graphican @Green Arrow @Guleen Ahmed @HRK @Jazzbot @Junaid B @Jzaib @Khalidr @khawaja07 @Leader @Luftwaffe @Marshmallow @mr42O @Muhammad Omar @nomi007 @Pak123 @Pakistani shaheens @Pakistanisage @Peaceful Civilian @pkuser2k12 @PWFI @raazh @Rafael @Rashid Mahmood @RescueRanger @Saifkhan12 @Sedqal @SHAMK9 @Stealth @Strike X @SUPARCO @syedali73 @Tameem @Tayyab1796 @Zarvan @AdeelFaheem @Rajput_Pakistani @Men in Green @orakzai4u @IceCold @LoveIcon @razahassan1997 @Cheetah786 @Dil Pakistan @asq @junaid hamza @Pukhtoon @jamahir @Strigon @Rafi @Ulla @420canada @sathya @HughSlaman @slapshot @raza_888 @SBD-3 @cb4 @AsianUnion @Aether @Proudpakistaniguy @WishLivePak @Waffen SS @Fracker @Ranches @ghoul @Jf Thunder @GreenFalcon @genmirajborgza786 @orangzaib @Pakistani Exile @KURUMAYA @Irfan Baloch @ali_raza @Syed.Ali.Haider @Patriots @muslim_pakistani @W.11 @Meengla @zaid butt @ajpirzada @Shoaib Rathore @CHARGER @yesboss @TheNoob @Bratva @Viny @StormShadow @suresh1773 @SOHEIL @Force-India @faisal6309 @S.U.R.B. @vsdave2302 @jarves @WAJsal @Winchester @janon @pak-marine @Donatello @Darth Vader @wolfschanzze @TheFlyingPretzel @DRAY @narcon @FaujHistorian @1000 @FNFAL @gau8av @abhi21 @naveen mishra @Kunwar Anurag Rathore @AgNoStiC MuSliM @LeveragedBuyout @MastanKhan @Agent Smith @shuntmaster @Slav Defence @sur @XenoEnsi-14 @DESERT FIGHTER @p100 @BDforever @hunter_hunted @Mav3rick @rockstar08 @asad71 @Major Sam @Faizan Memon @Spy Master @ozzy22 @Manticore @war khan @Afridistan @Razia Sultana @madmusti @ghazaliy2k @Khalid Newazi @Ammyy @bloo @Marxist @karan.1970 @thesolar65 @Not Sure @Arav_Rana @Avik274 @SamantK @Major Shaitan Singh @Omega007 @farhan_9909 @haviZsultan @Sidak @ranjeet @Yogijaat @Ravi Nair @WAR-rior @he-man @Indrani @Mike_Brando @SarthakGanguly @sreekumar @Pakistani shaheens @ChennaiDude @Akheilos @Hyperion @Soumitra @TimeTraveller @pursuit of happiness @TankMan @T-123456 @madooxno9 @scorpionx @Capt.Popeye @Tridibans @christian warrior @GR!FF!N @SpArK @utraash @Falcon29 @levina @Jf Thunder @Metanoia @halupridol @Krate M @dexter @jbgt90 @Pride @Star Wars @ROCKING @waleed3601 @ShowGun @danish_vij @manojb @Wolfhound @Koovie @KingMamba @venu309 @Pak_Sher @OrionHunter @Dr. NooB NinjA @UDAYCAMPU

they actually want to kill ppl and want to rule ppl with no moral background.
they are like local goons but with dirty political ambition
 
The only way Pakistan can come out by adopting the way modern Islamic nations adopt themselves to the changing world...For example Turkey and Indonesia...In the quest of hurting India, Pakistan nurthered so much of radical Islamist that unfortunately, they started biting them now...Pakistan should have created a narrative to fight with India in the name of nationhood rather than Muslims fighting with Hindus...So the continuous process of radicalization has now becomes so ugly that it needs a drastic measure to stop them...
 
They don't want any Shariah Law, that's all bullsh!t. What Shariah Law? When the Taliban were in control of Afghanistan, the only Sharia they did was Burkas! Drug trade, Human trafficking, rape, injustice, kangaroo courts, they did all of it - what kind of Sharia is that?! That's not Islamic Law. That's the antithesis of Islamic Law, its bullsh!t.

They're fooling us when they say they want Sharia. They want money and power, nothing more. They have no spiritual or religious 'cause'. They know very well how full of sh!t they are - that's why they were begging for mercy and their legs were shaking when they were about to go meet the God they claimed to worship and please. They know it.

To destroy them, we need to systematically destroy their lies so that no one can ever sympathize with them again. Pictures of the dead bodies of those school children, the victims of Taliban atrocities, them playing football with the heads of our soldiers - all that needs to be displayed all over Pakistan, in universities, colleges and especially outside Lal Masjid. Abdul Aziz needs to be dragged by his beard, and asked: 'is that the Islam you claim to preach ?'.

Their lies about Sharia need to be systematically destroyed in khutbas on friday by Imams, in mosques and madrassas. Same with their lies about 'American agents' and everything else they ever say.

Then, they will eventually be crushed by the military offensive. With no support base left, they'll turn into a bunch of stragglers, maybe they'll pull off a few attacks during their last breaths but that'll be it.
 
That's not Islamic Law.

that is islamic law according to the western intelligence agencies who project the burqa and mullah as "islamic" and scare the western citizens into hating islam... and towards this, the agencies use puppets like taliban, ikhwaan and qaeda, who of course do their given duties marvelously.
 
We need a secular reformist like Kemal Ataturk. We need to bring back Ayub Khan's constitution.
We need to realize the reason of the existence of a white part on our national flag.
The problem with Pakistan is that our people are too nosy.
I'm going to use an example that people (read conservatives) will find vulgar:
Now take the example of Turkey. In Turkey, if a girl wants to wear a skirt or small shorts, she can wear one and no one is going to mess with her or chastise her. Same is the case in India. And if a girl chooses to wear a burqa she can wear one out of her own choice and still no one is going to mess with her. Same in India.
But in Pakistan, all hell breaks loose if a girl is seen wearing shorts/skirts or heck even tights! People on facebook (if it's a photo) will start commenting on how she has no haya or sharam and how she is reserving a place in hell and if she's in public a couple guys are going to check her out from top to bottom then they'll whisper to each other the same thing they'd comment on facebook (will scan again when she's leaving). So this disgusting, hypocritical attitude will remain as long as we keep radicalizing young people.
The only way to combat this is if we can instil secularism in our people and give them a good education by a decent public education system. Otherwise, minorities will go on being suppressed and judgemental mentality will keep passing from generation to generation.
Also, now that I've written this post I've realized how heavily I've deviated from the OP but since I don't want to waste all the effort that went into typing that I'm going to post it anyway.
 
When the Taliban were in control of Afghanistan, the only Sharia they did was Burkas! Drug trade, Human trafficking, rape, injustice, kangaroo courts, .

That's "real" sharia. nothing more, nothing less.

may Pakistanis are overly romantic about sharia because they look at KSA and Iran as the "golden examples" of Sharia.

Oh bhai

if there was no oil in KSA or iran, they both would have been just like what you described.

only oil makes them tad bit shiny

like lipstick on a pig.

We need a secular reformist like Kemal Ataturk. We need to bring back Ayub Khan's constitution..

Dreams.

Kemal came by at a unique juncture of Turkish history. If he was around today, Turks will treat him very differently.

For ayub? I like the guy

but

Ahmadis were brutallly attacked by Mullah maw-doodi's goons.

Ayub could not hang that SOB mullah.

As they say, do not expect house cats to become tigers just because they are wearing army uniforms.
 
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living under shariah law that's what almost every muslim want and there is nothing wrong in this demand but the method they have adopted to fulfill their demand is Islamic or not should be debated or else they will continue to get a silent support from muslims.
 
As if they throw their gun and become obedient citizen under sharia law ..Their demand wont stop untill no one has power to question them within pakistan ..Its better to show it as a provincial ideology which want to rule other provinces through gun ..If it becomes a religious or ideological issue I am afraid fire will catch more rapidly then anyone imagines ...
 

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