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Were FC men killed in Afghanistan?

more to Know about them, this is not enough. There are more fine people who proudly put on the uniform but there is no one to even hit them. The fine people who are slaughtered by TTP belong to the a specific ethnic group, so there is more question to be Asked from Pakistani Government and TTP.

Ali saab this not an issue of proud and emotion it is a big game against us and we should open our eyes.
Last I remember, TTP (alias JI/JUI) never asked for ID cards before killing innocents, that is what Baloch insurgents do. TTP (alias JI/JUI) kill people indiscriminately to project terror. More Pashtoons have lost their lives fighting with TTP (alias JI/JUI) than the non-Pashtoons. That is why, I don't think your question is valid or adds anything to what is already known about TTP (JI/JUI).
 
*** fauj aur hukmaraan dono he hijray banay howay hain ***** is Afghanistan ke kya ukaat hey .... Afghanistan Iran India jesay **** aankhain dekha rahay hain....
Yar yeh BC govt he hai jis ki waja sy aj hmy yeh din dekhna par rha hai
agar hmari agencies Election PMLN ko najeetwati to aj sort e hall kuch aur hoti
I think army should do something now a days people of pakistan so angry due such a Army's behaviour

Why the Government and Army of Pakistan lie to Nation why should they tell nation everything ???
 
Yet another eye opening article but who cares...

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this clearly goes on to show how vulnerable we are to the taliban/Afghanistan axis and we dont even have the means or will to seal the border to ensure that during operation, talibans wont run into Afghanistan and then start attacking on us !!
The Afghanistan-Pakistan Border is 2430 km long over difficult terrain. Do you have the troops to occupy such a long stretch? If you want to fence it you'd still need troops to dominate the entire border, and needless to say, it would be frightfully expensive too.

So that's a non-starter, unless you withdraw troops from your Eastern border which at present isn't an option as India is regarded as enemy number 1. But the truth actually is that the TTP and their cohorts are the real enemies of Pakistan. But that won't change the PA's strategy against bogeyman India, which is the central theme and the Raison d'être of the PA.

Therefore, it comes about that the PA will never redeploy its troops from the East to the West to fight the insurgency in Waziristan etc and will never be able to cover the AfPak border effectively - until and unless the PA changes its mindset where threat perceptions are concerned..
 
The Afghanistan-Pakistan Border is 2430 km long over difficult terrain. Do you have the troops to occupy such a long stretch? If you want to fence it you'd still need troops to dominate the entire border, and needless to say, it would be frightfully expensive too.

So that's a non-starter, unless you withdraw troops from your Eastern border which at present isn't an option as India is regarded as enemy number 1. But the truth actually is that the TTP and their cohorts are the real enemies of Pakistan. But that won't change the PA's strategy against bogeyman India, which is the central theme and the Raison d'être of the PA.

Therefore, it comes about that the PA will never redeploy its troops from the East to the West to fight the insurgency in Waziristan etc and will never be able to cover the AfPak border effectively - until and unless the PA changes its mindset where threat perceptions are concerned..

Threat is from foreign axis on northern side. Yes we can seal border linked with FATA, the point is first we have to be sure on whose side they are, as once we are in, we would be vulnerable from insurgency !
 
No sir, I want to know exactly who they are, the words you answered shows the abomination of your
Conscience, We just want to have peaceful life and to stop this stupid drama directed by stupids like you Against us.

We also want peace , trust me we have no desire to be embroiled in endless conflicts, the drama is being done against us since 1947

Visit any afghan forum , I'm sure you must be member of some, and it will become clear why I wrote the above
 
Yet another eye opening article but who cares...

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DAMOCRAZY HAS FAILED IN PAKISTAN, ITS A OLD CASSETE PLAYING WITH BAD SOUND?
the ultimate end is allways, men in uniform best solution!
allways?
 
Mr Ayaz Amir's column in English (for those who cant read it in Urdu).

Pigeons and eagles

May the Lord have mercy on us for our condition is deserving of pity. We know which way the tide is turning but closing our eyes to the obvious we are postponing the inevitable, hoping that somehow through some miracle the need for bestirring ourselves and putting our limbs to some trouble will not arise.

Pigeons are good at this. Pakistan today – a country of nearly 200 million souls, a huge army maintained at considerable expense, and a sizeable nuclear arsenal – resembles nothing so much as the pigeon with its eyes closed.

Iqbal sang of the shaheen, the eagle, exhorting his companions-in-faith to become like it. His soaring poetry we should have retired from the service of patriotism a long time ago, for in the Pakistan of today where whimpering passes for leadership nothing sounds more outdated.

The Taliban are not merely fighting Pakistan. They are mocking it. Even as Pakistani leaders clutch desperately at straws the Taliban feel not the slightest hesitation in accepting responsibility for attacks across the country. On Saturday even as there was talk of an impending ceasefire by the Taliban – conditional of course, after meeting their conditions – a Taliban commander in the Mohmand tribal agency was proudly claiming responsibility for the killing of 23 Frontier Corps soldiers in Taliban captivity, in retaliation, as he helpfully explained, for this and that. Mockery cannot get sharper than this.

The drama of talks with the Taliban has already handed them a propaganda advantage, the government treating them as an equal partner. But the Taliban are trying to have it all their way and the Pakistani state, so tough when it wants to be, is taking this quietly, showcasing itself as a model of forbearance.

But the nagging question we should be asking: is there any running away from this fight which is being forced on Pakistan? We can postpone it. We can give more concessions but is there any escaping its inevitability? Sooner or later, however desperately we try to avoid it, this war, this encounter will be upon us, because in the dictionary of those we are dealing with the word ‘compromise’ is not to be found.

When you are possessed of the gun which has not been defeated, and your ideology you take to be the word of Allah, and your mind is full of images of defeating one superpower and now the other, then what you seek is victory and final redemption, not compromise, that too with a state, in this case Pakistan, whose weaknesses and vulnerabilities you have come to be familiar with.

This then is our problem and there is no point in now saying that we created these monsters and sowed the seeds of folly on the Hindukush Mountains. All that is now past, history’s pages or its footnotes to be pored over by scholars. Relevant now is our present danger and what we do about it. Let’s also remember another thing: if this vacillation and whining are all the leadership we get, some pillar in our temple is bound to give way and even fall. Let me try to make my meaning clearer.

In a state where the available leadership is weak and incompetent and the army is large and relatively well-trained then this state of affairs, this vacuum at the heart of leadership, cannot last forever. Either the leadership gets serious and reads the warning signals emblazoned across the skies, and develops some strength, or the legions get restless and start toying with ideas that should be the farthest from their minds. Take this as the 11th commandment.

There is no guarantee that the soldiery in power will do any better than the incompetent politicians. After the death of Ranjit Singh the Khalsa army was large and well-trained, and battle-hardened, but left to its own devices it added to the prevailing disorder, and although in battle with the British it gave a good account of itself it suffered eventual defeat, Punjab for the next hundred years becoming a loyal part of the British Empire. Weak rulers, and constant intrigue, could not keep a check on the ambitions of the Khalsa army; the army in turn made worse the plight of the kingdom.

Look at what’s just happened in Egypt, a popular upsurge overthrowing the well-entrenched Mubarak order, a new dispensation taking the place of the old, but in about a year middle class disaffection growing and the army, under a clever general, exploiting this popular resentment and engineering a comeback…and Field Marshal Al-Sisi all set to contest elections and become next president of Egypt.

In Egypt there was no Taliban insurgency, only middle class disenchantment. Many would argue that what Pakistan faces is something far greater: a threat to its very survival. Yet the government seems unable to cope, every passing day revealing further its many inadequacies (and skewed priorities…is this a time for more ‘jangla’ bus services?)

Another element in the Egyptian kaleidoscope is also missing in Pakistan: a politically alive middle class. Conditions for military intervention were created by the middle class and other professional classes taking to Tahrir Square and mounting massive rallies. In Thailand the anti-Shinawatra movement has been spearheaded by noisy protesters in the capital, Bangkok.

Here we have a vacillating government on one side, the Taliban testing the limits of the possible on the other side, the army sulking in between and no live-wire civil society taking to the streets, much less the barricades. So the army is alone and isolated, and the country as a whole in a bind, in a limbo, a twilight state betwixt light and darkness.

The army cannot go it alone. North Waziristan is not the only theatre of Taliban concentration, Taliban or extremist influence now to be found in spreading pockets across the country. A military operation can only be one part of a larger strategy. But the galvanising of the country as a whole and putting it on something close to a war footing, is a job for the elected government not the army, unless of course the army steps out of its barracks, a course fraught with the dangers we in Pakistan are so familiar with.

Will then the army get the backing it needs should there be, as looks likely in due season, a recourse to arms? Can pigeons become eagles? Can appeasers suddenly become leaders of a nation at war? Or will the army be left on its own, with the country divided and the government abdicating responsibility?

I am no stranger to cluelessness but I have never been so much in the dark about where as a country we may be headed. This is an enclosed country geographically, bounded by impassable mountains to the north, Iran and Afghanistan to the west where we cannot go, and India to the east which will not open its doors to us. Iraqi and Syrian refugees displaced by war and civil war have gone to neighbouring lands. Afghans have found refuge in Pakistan. If God forbid our turn comes, where do we go?

Email: winlust@yahoo.com
 
Last I remember, TTP (alias JI/JUI) never asked for ID cards before killing innocents, that is what Baloch insurgents do. TTP (alias JI/JUI) kill people indiscriminately to project terror. More Pashtoons have lost their lives fighting with TTP (alias JI/JUI) than the non-Pashtoons. That is why, I don't think your question is valid or adds anything to what is already known about TTP (JI/JUI).

You Know Ali saab, TTP, Pak Army, ANSF, US, NATO and Afghan Taliban are one by one responsible for this genocide I am not representing any of them but as a Pashtun I have the right to ask about our rights. Pak Army, TTP and ANSF are funded by US and their allies, and Afghan Taliban are funded by Pakistan to continue this genocide. In this drama the senior director is US and Britain and the the junior directors are senior officers of Pak army who hate to see Pashtuns live peaceful life and are training Afghan Taliban in order to blow them selves in Aghanistan.
 

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