Vietnam Defence Forum

[ViXuyen]

Dude F-35 is 120 million, without weapon systems. There's no way F-15 is that much, the Silent eagle maybe.

Besides, S-300 is getting phased out, with the new stealth fighters, the strategy is to destroy all anti air batteries and then comes the 4th gen fighters and bombers.

So anti air may not be the investment you think it is.

Not $120 but still $100 million a piece about 9 years ago
F-15K Slam Eagle

Anti-air missile is there to stay, they are more economical and effective than fighters. A huge network of highly mobile SAM sites, inflatable decoys, and electronic equipment that send out decoy signals is a deadly theatre for any airforce to try to penetrate. Of course, having some more fighters to go along with a network of air defence is a plus

F-35 is $275 million a piece; that's what israel paid

 

[Viet]

news of today: two additional Gepard frigates on order, to be delivered in 2017, bringing the total number of Gepards to 6.

Standard Armament:

• 8 × SS-N-25 Switchblade Anti-Ship missiles
• 1 × 76.2 mm 59-caliber AK–176 automatic dual-purpose gun (500-round magazine)
• 2 × 6-barreled 30 mm AK-630 point-defense guns (2,000-round magazine for each)
• 4 × 533 mm torpedo tubes (two twin launchers)
• 1 × RBU-6000 12-barreled Anti-Submarine rocket launcher
• 12–20 mines

Vietnam purchases two more Russian frigates | VOV Online Newspaper

 

[Viet]

Dude F-35 is 120 million, without weapon systems. There's no way F-15 is that much, the Silent eagle maybe.

Besides, S-300 is getting phased out, with the new stealth fighters, the strategy is to destroy all anti air batteries and then comes the 4th gen fighters and bombers.

So anti air may not be the investment you think it is.

ViXueng says SU-35, not F-35. As long as America still holds embargo on Vietnam, it is useless to talk on buying of US weapons.

No, modern anti aircraft systems can track all targets, including stealth fighters. Have you ever heard of passive radar system?

A conventional radar station sends out a powerful search beam, which is reflected by ships or aircrafts. From the echo, the computer can calculate the position, course and speed of the target.

A passive radar does not require an own search beam. It analyses the wave salad coming from the atmosphere. Any object such as aircraft or ship moves through the wave soup like a fish through the water - and raises inevitable return of measurable echoes. A stealth jet cannot hide because it is hit by radio waves at all sides. High performance computers with complex math algorithmen analyse the wave soup and identify the objetcs.

Plus a passive radar works faster. Unlike a classical radar whose search beam takes about four seconds for a full 360-degree turn, the passive radar image is updated twice per second.

Here is a passive radar system from the company EADS Cassidian: It fits into a conventional small truck. It uses three frequency bands: analogue UKW, digital radio DAB and digital telvision DVB-T. The company promises the radar can locate small flying objects, stealth fighter aircrafts, up to 500 targets up to a distance of 200 km, with an accuracy of 10m.

Vietnam needs such a toy combined with a high performance anti aircraft system. Stealth jets do not mean invisible.

Passivradar: Das Ende der Unsichtbarkeit - SPIEGEL ONLINE - Wissenschaft

 

[Viet]

I don't know how to feel about that comment.

bro, you should pick country flags.

 

[ViXuyen]

Here is the model of the KN-series ship. They are underconstruction in Hai Phong

 

[Viet]

nice! a direct telephone hotline between Chinese and Vietnamese army will be established later this year.

Direct phone line for China, Vietnam defense ministries - CHINA - WORLD - Globaltimes.cn
Vietnam-China army hotline to be available this year | Tuổi Trẻ news

 

[ViXuyen]

 

[CN.Black]

Who can tell me why all the Vietnam-made weapons look like DIY toys made by middle school students??????

 

[EastSea]

Who can tell me why all the Vietnam-made weapons look like DIY toys made by middle school students??????

Like this ?

 

[Viet]

no pic description. is it a model for the dutch Sigmar corvette?

 

[EastSea]

he don't know what is this.

 

[Viet]

he don't know what is this.

I followed the link and found the info:

Damen shipyard introduces 2 types of SIGMA 9814 frigate in Vietship 2014. These models match some of our speculations about this class, including:

- A modified version of basic 9813 class
- Armed with 8 #Exocet MM40 Block 3 anti-ship missiles
- Replacing the Denel Vektor G12 guns (manually controlled) with another automatic system, unfortunately it's not the Goalkeeper as we expected

Also, the radar cross section is greatly reduced with a new superstructure and upper deck.

 

[Viet]

Who can tell me why all the Vietnam-made weapons look like DIY toys made by middle school students??????

VN capitility of building modern warships is limited, still. Most modern stuffs come from Russia to date.

Ka-28 ASW helicopter

Kilo diesel sub

Gepard frigate

 

[Nike]

since Vietnam has decided to using SIGMA class with Tacticos CMS, i think Indonesia and Vietnam can doing more naval drill exercise togheter......................

 

[ViXuyen]

no pic description. is it a model for the dutch Sigmar corvette?

That's the version for Viet Nam. Here is the video about the Oto Melara gun on the Sigma; it is an awesome gun