U.S. Helped Pakistan Get IMF Bailout With Secret Arms Deal for Ukraine, Leaked Documents Reveal

[Cash GK]

Ukraine was attacked by Russia. We would be supplying a country defending itself.

Step back and think of our national interests. Had IK’s government been advice by our civilian policy making class to make the decision to sell arms to Ukraine (as Ukraine sold arms to us), and he decided to make this decision, wouldn’t you then say it made sense. Don’t look at this element from the view point of what came next, but on its own.

What I’m saying is the country has interests that stretch beyond administrations.

We are not india, that says it’s neutral because it is actually Russia’s ally and plans to import more cheap oil to refine it. We can not benefit from Russia. What has Russia done for Pakistan after it stayed neutral? Sell oil we are not able to independently refine.

My question is why you put yourself on sale so cheap...khan was asking we will not part any war. Was it wrong asking?
You are 250 millions as much as amaraicns. Why those fucking 280 millions make your their b.... **** that mentality

Ukraine was attacked by Russia. We would be supplying a country defending itself.

Step back and think of our national interests. Had IK’s government been advice by our civilian policy making class to make the decision to sell arms to Ukraine (as Ukraine sold arms to us), and he decided to make this decision, wouldn’t you then say it made sense. Don’t look at this element from the view point of what came next, but on its own.

What I’m saying is the country has interests that stretch beyond administrations.

We are not india, that says it’s neutral because it is actually Russia’s ally and plans to import more cheap oil to refine it. We can not benefit from Russia. What has Russia done for Pakistan after it stayed neutral? Sell oil we are not able to independently refine.

I agree we are fucking useless 250 millions bloody animals

 

[nahtanbob]

Supporting Ukraine was the right thing to do, IMHO, for pakistan’s own interests. Russia is no friend of Pakistan, and is in fact a military treaty ally of India. Despite the hope of opening up to Russia, once they invaded Ukraine, We should have backed out of that meeting with Putin (as many on this very forum had advised/hoped would have happened in real time) and condemned the invasion. It’s what we would hope the world would do if India invaded Us. Ukraine has been a direct military supplier to Pakistan. Post-Afghan withdrawal, pivoting to the pro-Ukraine camp from the start, should have been our reset in relations with the west and Cold War boomers that still run it.

IK was left high and dry by his advisors and the policy making class, that should have foreseen the consequences. He was left in a bind as he depended on his staff to guide him. The nation’s policy “nervous system” (as Atif Mian calls it) is either broke or set IK up.

By playing against the PM, they played themselves and had to take a consolation prize of an IMF Bailout after much economic damage had already been done, over a year later. Good cop bad cop tactics only undermine national interests. Shortsighted Infighting is costing the nation its interests each and every time.

Seriously what is the dollar value of Pakistani weapon shipments to Ukraine ? USA & Europe have sent in $100 billion in weapons & aid to Ukraine.

Total bilateral aid to Ukraine by donor & type 2024 | Statista

How much has each country given to Ukraine? The U.S. provided the highest bilateral aid to Ukraine as of May 2023, at nearly 71 billion euros.

www.statista.com

 

[ziaulislam]

My question is why you put yourself on sale so cheap...khan was asking we will not part any war. Was it wrong asking?
You are 250 millions as much as amaraicns. Why those fucking 280 millions make your their b.... **** that mentality


I agree we are fucking useless 250 millions bloody animals

You are confused

I don't think the sale was cheap

Pretty sure people made millions and will have a hefty retirement

What else can one ask for ??

Seriously what is the dollar value of Pakistani weapon shipments to Ukraine ? USA & Europe have sent in $100 billion in weapons & aid to Ukraine.

Total bilateral aid to Ukraine by donor & type 2024 | Statista

How much has each country given to Ukraine? The U.S. provided the highest bilateral aid to Ukraine as of May 2023, at nearly 71 billion euros.

www.statista.com

Probably free of charge but some money will be laundered off

The budget documents have no record of any sale

 

[Cash GK]

You are confused

I don't think the sale was cheap

Pretty sure people made millions and will have a hefty retirement

What else can one ask for ??

Compare what india got. Using right way. We sold our pm and dignity..... now 350 oil and dollar 310.
I agree we did not sold ourself cheap.
People are paying heavy
80 percent Pakistanis started hating its own army
Yaha thats not cheap deal.... 5 stars for you alll

 

[epebble]

Seriously what is the dollar value of Pakistani weapon shipments to Ukraine ? USA & Europe have sent in $100 billion in weapons & aid to Ukraine.

Total bilateral aid to Ukraine by donor & type 2024 | Statista

How much has each country given to Ukraine? The U.S. provided the highest bilateral aid to Ukraine as of May 2023, at nearly 71 billion euros.

www.statista.com

How about zero, zilch, nada? This story is in same category as the famous 'Cipher' that brought down the government. If there were a scintilla of truth, wouldn't it attract attention from someone besides 'intercept'?

Pakistan dismisses ‘secret’ Ukraine arms deal report | The Express Tribune

FO says Islamabad maintains strict neutrality in dispute

tribune.com.pk

 

[SaadH]

Nobody knows where that $900M went. It definitely did not make it to the National Exchequer. Same with that mythical $2B "earned" for FIFA world cup security.

Rs172 bn were paid to MNA's for being in the PDM/Sepoy bloc, another Rs.10 bn was paid to the media for shilling for the sepoy installed PDM and bashing IK.

The rest was shared by the faujeets for little faujeet's studies abroad, Popa John franchises acquistion, and purchases of ranches in US, farm houses in Belgium and islands in Australia...

How about zero, zilch, nada? This story is in same category as the famous 'Cipher' that brought down the government. If there were a scintilla of truth, wouldn't it attract attention from someone besides 'intercept'?

Pakistan dismisses ‘secret’ Ukraine arms deal report | The Express Tribune

FO says Islamabad maintains strict neutrality in dispute

tribune.com.pk

The "someone besides intercept" was also the leading cheerleaders for the whole d@mn Iraq war and didn't find anything wrong with that either...

 

[Communism]

How about zero, zilch, nada? This story is in same category as the famous 'Cipher' that brought down the government. If there were a scintilla of truth, wouldn't it attract attention from someone besides 'intercept'?

Pakistan dismisses ‘secret’ Ukraine arms deal report | The Express Tribune

FO says Islamabad maintains strict neutrality in dispute

tribune.com.pk

It's an open secret.


Ukraine even complained about the quality of the Pakistani ammo they were sent, lol.

 

[Cash GK]

Sold out very cheap.. if its true
Arms Sale to Ukraine for Pakistan's IMF Bailout Package
Pakistan sold $900 million worth of ammunition to Ukraine under a secret deal!
In return, the United States gave the PDM government a deal with the IMF and kept silent on the undemocratic crackdown!
900 main dollar contract commission and kickback ??

 

[maverick1977]

It's an open secret.


Ukraine even complained about the quality of the Pakistani ammo they were sent, lol.

Yes i have confirmation that is the case. RAF has been coming to Noor Khan AFB in Rawalpindi to pick pallets upon Pallets of Tank, Artillery and Mortar Ammo...

 

[epebble]

It's an open secret.


Ukraine even complained about the quality of the Pakistani ammo they were sent, lol.

It is perfectly possible someone thought of making a quick buck by selling to Ukraine. But to tangle it with IMF, U.S. Government etc., is a fantastic fiction. U.S. Government and IMF are sufficiently porous that somebody would have laughed at the whole ball of wax and spilled a few beans.

 

[Communism]

It is perfectly possible someone thought of making a quick buck by selling to Ukraine. But to tangle it with IMF, U.S. Government etc., is a fantastic fiction. U.S. Government and IMF are sufficiently porous that somebody would have laughed at the whole ball of wax and spilled a few beans.

The whole thing was obvious but somewhat vague at the time, but now we have a read on the sequence of events due to this report.

 

[nahtanbob]

The whole thing was obvious but somewhat vague at the time, but now we have a read on the sequence of events due to this report.

To say you got an IMF bailout is silly.

Now if Pakistanis sold weapons and siphoned part of the proceeds that is a different story

 

[Abdul Rehman Majeed]

Sold out very cheap.. if its true
Arms Sale to Ukraine for Pakistan's IMF Bailout Package
Pakistan sold $900 million worth of ammunition to Ukraine under a secret deal!
In return, the United States gave the PDM government a deal with the IMF and kept silent on the undemocratic crackdown!
900 main dollar contract commission and kickback ??

Shells have shelf life.

It is better to send them to Ukraine than have them expire in our inventory.

 

[ziaulislam]

Compare what india got. Using right way. We sold our pm and dignity..... now 350 oil and dollar 310.
I agree we did not sold ourself cheap.
People are paying heavy
80 percent Pakistanis started hating its own army
Yaha thats not cheap deal.... 5 stars for you alll

You are wrong here
Noone hates the army

Previously it was 40% population hating the elite Mafia corps commanders

Now throw in punjab too since punjab was always spared ..now they hate the Mafia corps commanders too

Shells have shelf life.

It is better to send them to Ukraine than have them expire in our inventory.

So why not send it to Russia then

 

[Abid123]

It has always been.

Pakistan joined CENTO to fight the Communist USSR.

Soviets supported India during 1971 East Pakisatan war.

Soviets wanted to invade Pakistan to get to the Arabian Sea in the 1980s.

This false flagging pajeet must have smoked something seriously strong...

Soviet union does not exist anymore. We are talking about Russia.