Top 10 future weapons of CHINA

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  1. DrSomnath999
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    J-16 Red Eagle
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    The J-16, built by the Shenyang Aircraft Corporation (SAC), is reportedly a stealthy dedicated attack version of the J-11B (Su-27) multirole fighter featuring active electronically scanned array [AESA] radar and an internal weapons bay. Chinese authorities have not formally released informtion on these developments. It was rumored in November 2010 that SAC was developing a 4.5th generation heavy multi-role fighter with a conventional layout based on J-11B. First flight of this reportedly "Silent Flanker" was rumored at that time to be within 2011.

    According to Hui Tong, the J-16 is a version of the J-11BS comparable to American F-15E. Sort of a 'strike flanker'. "The aircraft can be viewed as an upgraded version of Su-30MKK based on its mission and capability, which is comparable to American F-15E. First flight was rumored to be between 2011-2012. J-16 has tandem seats with a WSO sitting in the backseat. It features an enhanced fire-control system with additional AG modes. Besides PL-8 and PL-12 AAMs, it could also carry the same precision guided weapons being carried by JH-7A, such as KD-88 ASM and LS-500J LGB. Compared to JH-7A, J-16 is expected to have a more powerful radar, a greater weapon load (8t) and a longer range (4,000km). "

    In May 2011 China Military Report stated that "China's new 4.5 generation heavy fighter (Chinese name "Red Eagle"). August 2008 has been officially off the assembly line in Shenyang Aircraft Factory, in October 2008 in Beijing, an Air Force base in the outskirts of the first flight, October 12, 2009 conducted a second test, a complete success. J-18 is the 4.5 generation fighter aircraft are air superiority fighter heavy. Forward-swept wing fighter design using ultra-stealth characteristics, and install a laser active phased array radar, built-in weapons bay and two large thrust-vectoring engines. Service time is expected around 2015. So far there is no any official information about the machine, nor any information to prove the real existence of the aircraft. Only some information from some people speculate, and speculation of official news."
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    u can talk them one by one.but never mix them up and rank them.

    still remember my sentence,huh?seems that it leaves u with Psychological barriers~
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    well i was comparing that as humour man ,i think u took it seriously but never mind forget it & u also take it as humour but not as offence
    REGARDS
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    Well China may not be as superior as USA is, but still the war toys they have, its sure that they can cause lot of damage irrespective of any nation. USA may have a perception that nobody can design and develop such toys (like which we have seen in this thread). I call this as neglegance and underestimating the opponent.:lazy:

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    You definitely have the credential working for the intelligent agency.
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    thanks man
    This is what i called real appreciation of someone hard work:enjoy:
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    H-10 stealth Bomber

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    H-8 Stealth Bomber

    Dr.Somnath,i'm sure this would be nice for your collection:woot: and you're one of the very few sane/funny ones here unlike darko and co.LOL
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    The conceptional figure looks even better than J20
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    I assure u i am the most wittiest man on this planet as i believe to make people smile as i am a dentist by profession [​IMG]
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    When it comes to stealth, you can't use "looks" as a standard. The fighter-concept drawing is flawed. The nose is round. That is not stealthy. It needs a "shaped nose" like a duck-bill with a chine/ridge line.

    The air ducts are not canted. That's also not stealthy. The upper-fuselage does not appear to follow the continuous-curvature principle. It tapers to a point toward the rear.

    The J-20 Mighty Dragon is a marvelous piece of stealth design and engineering. If you haven't seen it yet, watch my video. It has 79,534 views.

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    J-20 continuous-curvature design is readily apparent in the single "smooth broad curve" on the upper-body fuselage.
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    On one hand you say that looks cannot be used as standards, and yet you claim 'looks' of J-20 to be stealthy? Shaped nose? Smooth broad curve? Are you nuts? Did you design that aircraft or are you an engineer who knows what stealth design entails?

    Oh, btw, your video on youtube - is LAME!! One of the stupidest vids ever.
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    u literrally have no idea about stealth ,it doesnt depend only on design ,it also depends on stealth coating (plasma),& composite framework & lesser infra red signatures.The stealthiest design was F117 night hawk but still it was shot down inn kosovo war .
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    Watch my video. It has numerous citations to well-known industry publications like AviationWeek. Also, at the end of my video, I credit F-16.net for all uncredited quotations, which is based on the stealth standards established by the F-22.

    Anyway, this is my last response to idiotic Indian China-haters, who have no idea what they're talking about regarding stealth principles.

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    My post from December 28, 2010:

    Time to grade J-20 Firefang against F-22 benchmarks

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    China's J-20 Firefang stealth fighter

    Full glass cockpit? Check.

    High-tech glass digital display? Check.

    Diamond-shaped nose to deflect radar away from transmitter? Check.

    Diamond-shaped wings to ameliorate radar detection? Check.

    Angled fuselage to deflect radar away from transmitter? Check.

    Internal weapons bay? Check (almost indubitably; otherwise just stay with J-10).

    RAM (i.e. radar absorption material/coating)? Check (looks like it's coated already).

    J-20 prototype manufactured ahead of schedule? Check. Most of us thought it was at least a few years away.

    Flat nozzles for engines? Not yet. Chinese engine technology needs a few more years to catch up.

    Saw-toothed edges? Can't tell. Forthcoming high-resolution pictures will answer this question.

    Sleek and beautiful? Check.

    Final assessment: A+++ (F-22 technology at a China price!)
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    In a comparison for instructional purposes only, the Russian T-50 is a sleek-looking fighter that is not very stealthy.

    From my August 21, 2011 post:

    Russian T-50 easy, medium, and hard fixes (topside)

    [​IMG]China's J-20 Mighty Dragon stealth fighter

    [​IMG]J-20 Mighty Dragon has no gaps between rear part of engines and fuselage. Notice the frameless one-piece bubble canopy. The continuous-curvature upper-body design of the J-20 is obvious to an untrained eye.

    [​IMG]Russian T-50 or Pak-Fa "stealth" fighter

    Easy fixes

    The first of many non-stealthy features, which are immediately noticeable about the Russian T-50, is the metal-framed cockpit canopy. Also, the protruding IRST probe in front of the cockpit needs to be recessed.

    Medium fixes

    Thirdly, the gaps between the engines need to be filled to eliminate a stronger radar echo. Fourthly, unlike the J-20, there is no RAM coating over the gleaming Russian T-50 engines on the entire exposed upper-body surface. The T-50 designers may have to resolve cooling issues with its engines if they are covered with RAM material.

    Hard fix

    The fifth problem with the top-side design of the T-50 is the lack of continuous-curvature. On the Chinese J-20, there is a nice round curve to the entire upper-body fuselage. On the Russian T-50, there are sharp and oblique angles, especially behind the cockpit. The Russians need to obtain a supercomputer and fix the design problem.

    [Note: Thank you to "MwRYum" for the J-20 pictures and Aimarraul for the Russian T-50 pictures.]

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    This is a clinical and objective post to contrast and compare stealth design features. This is not a "versus" comparison. If Sukhoi doesn't like what I'm pointing out, they should fix the problems.
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