The Truth is Always Bitter

[Joe Shearer]

https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=2873733322650104

 

[Goenitz]

good but still he is PM and it is parliament.

 

[Chakar The Great]

She is right. But BJP has people's mandate. Congress has lost the plot completely.

 

[Joe Shearer]

She is right. But BJP has people's mandate. Congress has lost the plot completely.

good but still he is PM and it is parliament.

A Congress-leaning friend points out that, contrary to our general gloom, the BJP controls 11 states, and the Congress with allies 10.

I started breathing again in December,when the idiots brought out their CAA, and young people spontaneously erupted in protest, protest that is still continuing, and took my first deep breath this 11th - O auspicious day! All is not lost.

That night, the 10th night, I thought they would move the Army in, declare the election irregular, for some got-up reason rubber-stamped by their lackeys in the Election Commission, and take off the velvet glove. They didn't.

UP is still a cesspool of bigots under a gangrenous prick, and Bihar is ruled by a totally duplicitous, cynical power-seeker who started so well, and India will suffer, but not without challenging the fascists.

 

[Joe Shearer]

And the excuses begin:

 

[War Thunder]

A Congress-leaning friend points out that, contrary to our general gloom, the BJP controls 11 states, and the Congress with allies 10.

I started breathing again in December,when the idiots brought out their CAA, and young people spontaneously erupted in protest, protest that is still continuing, and took my first deep breath this 11th - O auspicious day! All is not lost.

That night, the 10th night, I thought they would move the Army in, declare the election irregular, for some got-up reason rubber-stamped by their lackeys in the Election Commission, and take off the velvet glove. They didn't.

UP is still a cesspool of bigots under a gangrenous prick, and Bihar is ruled by a totally duplicitous, cynical power-seeker who started so well, and India will suffer, but not without challenging the fascists.

I still don't think Modi & co. will go down without pulling off all the tricks in their bag.
There is a reason they appointed a new chief of defence staff (an RSS guy).
They will definitely try to create a situation of emergency and find a way for a long term rule without being answerable to courts or the public.

 

[Joe Shearer]

I still don't think Modi & co. will go down without pulling off all the tricks in their bag.
There is a reason they appointed a new chief of defence staff (an RSS guy).
They will definitely try to create a situation of emergency and find a way for a long term rule without being answerable to courts or the public.

He isn't RSS.

My senior was from Batch#1 of our school, Sainik School somewhere, and that batch gave us the first few NDA cadets, 5 out of the batch of 10. I liked him at school, didn't quite look up to him, he wasn't the type to look up to, just another sober, grave senior, looking at our antics and our drill with great pity, and was delighted to meet him forty years later, a retired Brigadier from the EME. To my horror, I found that he was the hardest of the hard core, and I found that there is a minority in the Indian Army that way inclined. Their thoughts are usually well overlaid by the other sort, on the other extreme, who are secular to the hilt, but they do exist. They are not RSS, that would have been a career-limiting prospect. But I have this feeling about Kumaon and Garhwal people; they still insist on jhatka, and will not touch halal meat, like the Sikhs, and in a number of respects, they make me feel uneasy; not all of them, but a significant minority. The man who was in charge of roadways, under Vajpayee, was a retired major general from the hills, and was a brilliant administrator, but a right-winger. No services guy was RSS not even Purohit.

However, Rawat has said a lot, much more than one might expect from an officer with experience in operations abroad, working with other detachments and with other military cultures. The general consensus I got from people senior to him (all my batch-equivalents are more than ten years retired) is that he was a very good leader of men, stood by his people, but not sufficiently reticent - 'talks too much', said one person who had known him years ago when he was a Div. commander. After getting to CDS, he proceeded to do two or three things that were surprisingly good decisions, things that definitely needed doing.

But yes, he is certainly not inclined to do anything that his lords and masters would not like him to do. The question remains if he is inclined to do anything and everything that his lords and masters would like him to do.

These are troubling times.

 

[SIPRA]

https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=2873733322650104

Yeh bibi tau, lagta hae, ghar say larh ker aayi hae.

 

[jaibi]

Sir, we wish the best in this fight against fascists. They're bad for everyone. I hope things turn out well for everyone. Holding our breaths with you. Respect.

A Congress-leaning friend points out that, contrary to our general gloom, the BJP controls 11 states, and the Congress with allies 10.

I started breathing again in December,when the idiots brought out their CAA, and young people spontaneously erupted in protest, protest that is still continuing, and took my first deep breath this 11th - O auspicious day! All is not lost.

That night, the 10th night, I thought they would move the Army in, declare the election irregular, for some got-up reason rubber-stamped by their lackeys in the Election Commission, and take off the velvet glove. They didn't.

UP is still a cesspool of bigots under a gangrenous prick, and Bihar is ruled by a totally duplicitous, cynical power-seeker who started so well, and India will suffer, but not without challenging the fascists.

 

[Sine Nomine]

What you say about politicisation of IDF by BJP?

@Joe Shearer

 

[Nilgiri]

And the excuses begin:

The print, interesting:

https://theprint.in/national-intere...y-in-his-5-years-than-manmohans-upa-2/186863/

Modi critics will never give him the credit for it, but his government was incredibly efficient at the delivery of key welfare programmes.

Cooking gas, toilets, electricity, roads, banking, welfare and so much more delivered to the large rural population directly (to improve lives, and they recognise that) ....contrasted with the UPA's ill-thought out and badly implemented socialist gross-subsidy and vague "employment" programs....all while doing ZILCH on ease of business and investment flow streams to actually percolate the hot money that was gathered in the easy-boom time.

Its why the result that mattered ended up as it did. It was nice listening to Shekhar Gupta talk about it too

You see here's the thing, INC just sucks, they cant get the simple things right when given any national mandate....and never will....not with their current "leadership" roster anyway. They can switch a few states with anti-incumbency here and there...but thats their high water mark now and its of their own doing as to why.

Now please continue on with the eager crowd clamouring for any taste of a tale of woe for certain reasons entrenched

 

[Joe Shearer]

Yeh bibi tau, lagta hae, ghar say larh ker aayi hae.

LOL.
Very unkind. Would you have said the gender opposite for a male speaker?

What you say about politicisation of IDF by BJP?

@Joe Shearer

I am sorry, I didn't get you? IDF? Give me a hint?

The print, interesting:

https://theprint.in/national-intere...y-in-his-5-years-than-manmohans-upa-2/186863/

Modi critics will never give him the credit for it, but his government was incredibly efficient at the delivery of key welfare programmes.

Cooking gas, toilets, electricity, roads, banking, welfare and so much more delivered to the large rural population directly (to improve lives, and they recognise that) ....contrasted with the UPA's ill-thought out and badly implemented socialist gross-subsidy and vague "employment" programs....all while doing ZILCH on ease of business and investment flow streams to actually percolate the hot money that was gathered in the easy-boom time.

Its why the result that mattered ended up as it did. It was nice listening to Shekhar Gupta talk about it too

You see here's the thing, INC just sucks, they cant get the simple things right when given any national mandate....and never will....not with their current "leadership" roster anyway. They can switch a few states with anti-incumbency here and there...but thats their high water mark now and its of their own doing as to why.

Now please continue on with the eager crowd clamouring for any taste of a tale of woe for certain reasons entrenched

LOL.

Thank you for slaughtering a dead horse once again and then flogging it. That was the voice of the dead horse talking about his glory days, and that reminds us that the trains run on time today because some dead horse helped to put them on the rails in the first place.

We all know about the Hindu rate of growth; a mocking term used by the disdainful to describe a constrained India. We also know about the dramatic impact about parts of the dead horse that you dwelt on so lovingly in your note. And that dramatic improvement is what the world talked about, and not about one of the 'bigly' achievements, all based on wonky numbers that are slowly unravelling, that you celebrate in your comment. What we are left with, at the end of this incredibly efficient performance, is ruin.

At the end of the day, you might have an idea of what the BJP should stand for, I might have an idea of what the BJP does stand for, but the interesting part is where the BJP tells us what it stands for. Please check out the election speeches for yourself; not even 1% of the BJP leadership's speeches have mentioned, even in passing, those sterling highlights that were the bright, flashing lights of your comment. What they talked about was hate. Perhaps we should accept them at their word. As George Bernard Shaw famously said at the premiere of his Arms and the Man to a vocal critic,"I entirely agree with you, but who are the two of us against this multitude?"

Lage raho, bhakt bhai.

 

[Joe Shearer]

Let us also hear the talking heads on the subject.

Note to viewers - why do the BJP/RSS representatives (the ones on this video) always shout, and why do they have none of the economic and diplomatic achievements being touted elsewhere, why do these things never figure?

At 1:06:00, their favourite comforter comes into play; tough we lost, but hey, look at the Congress! As @Nilgiri showed, the bhakt response to the rejection of the politics of hate is schadenfreude.

What you say about politicisation of IDF by BJP?

@Joe Shearer

IDF = Indian Defence Forces?

 

[Sine Nomine]

IDF = Indian Defence Forces?

Yes,all branches.

 

[Joe Shearer]

Yes,all branches.

Well, what follows is my personal opinion only.

There are two analyses of the atmosphere within the armed forces that I have heard: one is that this was always the thinking of the majority Hindus and that it is apparent only now, with the new permissiveness in social hatred brought in by Modi and his pack. The second is that there has been a sea-change in the thinking of the classes that contribute to the armed forces officer cadres and the serving enlisted men, and this is a new departure; this second is incidentally, my own favoured reason, and I have explained this before. These two relate to the Indian people at large; you asked about the armed forces in particular, and my response is that the armed forces are drawn from within Indian society,and naturally reflect the changes and shifts in Indian social attitudes, views and values.

Having said that, there is also the counter-narrative. This (above) was perhaps the appropriate analysis, or sets of analyses proper to a situation where there was only doom ahead, the prospect of a permanently divided and hate-imbued India. Is that any longer true, with Delhi having shown us what it did? I am not sure about this.

Specific to the armed forces, there is a third aspect that we need to address, and that is the 'whiff of grapeshot'. That was Napoleon's famous prescription for unruly mobs at the fag end of the French Revolution, when power had already slipped in post-Robespierre times into the hands of the Directorate, and was about to slip into the hands of the First Consul, and then the Emperor. That has been a characteristic of a certain section of the military mind long before Napoleon, and long after Napoleon. Pakistani citizens should appreciate, above all others, that this tendency exists among the military.

In my opinion, it is this 'argumentum ad baculum' that is the culprit, not necessarily any divisive religious tincture that has come into the Indian armed forces. It was prominently in display in that distasteful incident when Captain Leetul Gogoi tied an innocent passer-by to his jeep and forced a passage through a demonstrating mob. There have been so many incidents of officers deeply resentful of being brought to book by mere policemen bringing out their jawans in military trucks and ransacking the police station that offended, beating up constables and police officers alike, and similar displays of testosterone.

We must not confuse this with increasing bigotry within the Indian armed forces, without denying the bigotry of a microscopic minority, and, up until this minute, I am not aware of any specific incident that could tell us whether the situation has changed permanently, in any particular direction.