Taliban in 72 percent of Afghanistan: report

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  1. Awesome

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    Daily Times - Leading News Resource of Pakistan

    And these losers blame Pakistan for a small tribal area with the presence of Taliban. They are harboring the Taliban in 72% of Afghanistan!!

    The next time any loser blames Pakistan shove this report down their throat! All losers who have lost against a ragtag army because they could care less about the War on Terror, kept yappin "do more, do more", Perhaps they just wanted to get done by someone.

    What a disgrace these people are. Their lies and irresponsible behavior has cost us Pakistani lives.
     
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    Thats why ISI have still so many Contacts with Taliban

    Pak Knows that West will never ever WIN Afghanistan & eventually they have to Leave
     
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    In my Point of View , the Afghan Taliban & Pak Tribal agencies Taliban are Different

    The one's on Tribal Agency are the Agents of RAW & Mossad ....
     
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    Why do you think that? There might be some evidence to suggest a bit of mercenary pay-offs, but generally it's the lack of understanding by all sides that has led to the stand off with Pakistan.

    They're independent and rule themselves. They also are a part of the soverign country of Pakistan. This, as you can see is a contradiction, and is the source of the problem. If you combine that they are part of the same "brotherhood" as the Pashtuns on the other side of the border, then this forms the basis of the situation.
     
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    Yep, those Taliban in Pakistan are different from those in Afghanistan. RAW is funding the terrorists in FATA.
     
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    Taleban is not a force but a mentality and sort of religious approach especially in Afghanistan.

    To achieve victory the West clearly knows that it cannot be done through bombing & killings but a better solution is through Economic zones which had to be created long time back in Afghanistan & Pakistan .. thus allow employment & trade education to these uneducated Afghanis. Had this been done ealrier (as requested in the past by Pakistan) today the results would have been different ..

    Well .. the West never listens to us .. so be it ... another mess at their hand !
     
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    there's no winning this war, it's become a matter of ethnic tension. this can be attributed to the carelessness of nato forces during their stay for the last 7 years. no one has focused on empowering pashtuns or at least giving them their fair share.

    no one cracked down on corruption and ironically more people are killed or raped than under the previous govt. ruled by you-know-who. people are actually are starting to come out and say that they had justice during the time of he-whose-name-should-not-be-said.

    no one did anything to set up serious infrastructure in afghanistan, no one did anything for their economy. there have been no investments other than from india, that too for bad purposes.

    the only solution now is to strengthen the afghan army and whatever govt. they have and get the hell out of there!
     
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    Taliban back in power is India's worst nightmare. Taliban wouldn't give two sh!ts about India and they know it too. Hence their insistance to empower Northern Alliance and keep them pumped. But i do think Taliban will eventually return to power. I hope they have learned their lessons that Islam is not enforced on your public by your own definition but a soft stance is needed to win hearts and minds.
     
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  9. must7

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    Exactly .. as we have always said "Islam did not spread all over the world due to the sword".
     
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    India has made an error in sending their army into Afghanistan. I have read that up to 7000 soldiers will be deployed by the Indians.

    These soldiers are going to take most of the hits now as they will be used to guard Indian investments.

    I don't know how the India govt. fell into this trap by US and NATO.

    Now Afghans have a new enemy to fight 'the Indians' and this will save some ISAF lives.
     
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    Yep, nice cannon fodder...
     
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    this is one of wests old problems. they always think everyone thinks lik them which they call as rational behaviour. the defination of this rational behavious is different in east and west.

    in east if someone kills ur parents, rapes ur wife and sisters and destroys ur country, its quite a rational behaviour to stop thinkin about living ur life and start fightin the agressor even if u have only got stones in ur hand. in west family ties are there but they are not the only reason for livin ur life.
    so now when u attack an eastern country which has such a culture, u might never expect a war to finish. victory in the short run but failure in the long run. coz when ever u will kill someone, this persons family will rise to take revenge.

    and now if u attack a muslim country with such a culture, u must already know that this war will never end untill every single person of the country dies or the agressor somehow decides to give up. muslims see this life as a mere test from God and the actual life for them will start after they die. such a belief simply means that the person is not scared of death. keeping this reality in mind and then lookin at afghan histroy and pathan mindset, i believe that US can never win this war. doesnt matter how hard they try or how many more troops they send in here.

    as far as india in concerned, it cant do much except for carryin out covert operations. india is makin the same mistake wihch US always does. they are tryin to be friends with hamid karzai and not afghan people. its really hard to fracture ties bw the people of two muslim countries. relations bw the muslims of pakistan and afghanistan goes back to mughal time. that is why our gov still cant stop ppl of pakistan from goin to afghanistan and fight alongside taliban against foreign forces. who is rit and who is wrong is not a question here. its the feelin of this brotherhood which keeps the ppl of both the nations united. my point being, doenst matter how much india invests in afghanistan but it cant use afghanistan as a platform against pakistan.

    peace in pakistan will only come after foreign troops leave afghanistan and till then no matter how hard u try u wont be able to stop pakistanis from goin to afghanistan.

    :pakistan:
     
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    Speaking of an alternate route, the whole reason why these convoys are passing through pakistan is because there isn't any possible way to get them across to a landlocked country.

    The only other option as we all know is by air. And that's pretty much unaffordable for the americans.

    Unless the Americans are planning to invade Iran for the sake of a supply line, i believe they should respect our assistance in providing the necessary equipment to the Allied forces fighting in Afghanistan. If we stop their supply line today, the entire deployment in Afghanistan would be massacred by the taliban controlling 72% of the country.

    My fiance's Father is a Private doctor in Kandhar who's worked with the Allied forces for the past 5 years. Recently i talked to him about the situation and his response was quite simple.

    1. American and NATO forces stick around their MAIN base camps and refrain from operating against the REAL taliban. (Who're in control of the country)

    2. NOTHING is going on against the REAL threat in the country.

    3. The allies are too busy focusing on Pakistan so that they have a justified reason to stick around in Afghanistan.

    4. The MAIN objective of the Taliban is to kidnap ANY important individual and demand a handsome ransom for his release. If they're unable to do so, they simply kill the individual based on his importance to the Forces.

    (Ransoms are usually dealt in American/Nato Arms and Ammunition. So in short, Americans are arming the Taliban for the release of their unsecured personal since Money isn't a big priority for the talibs)

    5. There is NO REAL war going on in Afghanistan. After the initial stages, there hasn't been a SINGLE important mission against the supposed "Terrorists".

    6. All in all, They frequently launch drones to target random locations INSIDE pakistan to provoke an attack from the side of the Pakistani taliban, which leads to some small scale operation and ends up on FOX, CNN, BBC etc for publicity of the war.

    Think about this. My source is as genuine as it gets.
     
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    NATO included in their official agenda to involve all waring factions in political circle of Afghanistan.They have used word waring factions instead of Talaban from which american and western minded people are allergic.
    Lot of options to end this conflict are on table ,there is no other solution of this conflict other then to distribute control of afghanistan to three major waring faction talaban/hikmatyar group ,Dostum,Mahsood .