What's new

Russia snubs India; cancels navy, army war games

BRICS

FULL MEMBER
Joined
Apr 26, 2011
Messages
504
Reaction score
0
Russia Snubs India
Moscow cancels two military exercises with India


Russia has cancelled both its 'Indra' series of military exercises with India. Last month, a flotilla of five warships from the Indian navy's eastern fleet that went for joint naval exercises to Vladivostok in the Russian far-east, was turned back without any manoeuvres. The warships-which included the missile destroyers INS Delhi, INS Ranvir and INS Ranvijay-were warmly received by the Russian navy, but when asked about the exercises, they were told the Russians had no ships to spare. On a request from the Indian fleet, a face-saving 'table top exercise or a land-based simulation, was carried out.

What rubbed salt in their wounds was that Russian warships sailed out for an exercise of their own, apparently belying their earlier claims. The cancelled exercise was hushed up even as the warships returned to Visakhapatnam. A befuddled Ministry of Defence (mod) was groping for answers when they were snubbed again. Last week, Russia informed the mod that it had cancelled the upcoming joint army exercises scheduled to be held in Russia in June. One of the reasons given was that the mod had not informed Moscow of the army exercises in advance. Petr Topychkhanov of the Carnegie Moscow Centre says the cancellation of the exercises does not reflect any change in relations with India. "One of the reasons could be the hard process of military reform in Russia. The Russian armed forces are unready for an international exercise at this stage," he says.

Since 2003, India and Russia have conducted five of the Indra series military exercises between the armies and navies of both sides. The last such exercise was held between Russian and Indian army units in Uttarakhand in October last year. In sharp contrast, India has conducted over 60 military exercises with the US. Indian defence officials admit that exercises with Russia are largely symbolic but are an important barometer of healthy ties between the two sides. The strategic partnership with Russia still holds.

Defence Minister A.K. Antony says that Delhi's proximity to Washington will not be at the cost of ties with Moscow. On the ground, however, ties have been on a roller-coaster ride. Russia is unhappy at losing a lucrative $10 billion contract for 126 multi-role medium combat aircraft. The iaf narrowed its choice to France's Rafale and Europe's Typhoon, ejecting US and Russian contenders. Topychkhanov does not rule out cancellation of the military exercises as a retort by the miffed Russians.

Air Chief Marshal P.V. Naik visited Moscow recently to inspect progress on the joint Indo-Russian Fifth Generation Fighter Aircraft (fgfa). The visit was also meant to mollify Russia and indicate India's commitment to the futuristic fighter which is expected to replace the most current fighter aircraft in the iaf's inventory when it is ready for squadron service in 2017.

Relations between India and Russia soured in recent years over the extended deadline for the refit of the aircraft carrier, Admiral Gorshkov. The refit slipped by four years and the its cost doubled to $2.3 billion. The carrier will now be delivered late next year. Deadlines for the acquisition of an Akula-II class nuclear-powered submarine have slipped by over three years. India paid $670 million for completing the submarine under a 2003 contract. This month, a 100-man Indian crew that had gone to Vladivostok to bring the vessel back returned empty-handed. There is no word on when the strategic submarine, which the navy desperately needs, will be transferred to India. Russia is reportedly keen that India pay for the completion of a second unfinished Akula hull at the Komsomolsk shipyard. This has been turned down by the navy.

The real issue is the poor sourcing of components for Russian-made equipment operated by the Indian armed forces. Over half the inventory of the three armed forces comprise equipment of Russian origin. "It takes nearly a year for us to get even export permissions from Russia. This severely impacts force preparedness," says a defence official.

Some of India's consternation over these delays may have spilled over at a meeting between navy chief Admiral Nirmal Verma and the visiting Russian navy chief, Admiral Sergeevich Vysotskiy, this January. Various department heads of the Indian navy read out the riot act on the poor serviceability of warships, aircraft and submarines to the Russian naval delegation. After the meeting, Vysotskiy privately conveyed his dismay at the ambush. The warning signs appeared at a recent joint meeting in Moscow when Russian defence officials refused to discuss military exercises. Evidently, it was a portent of the chill to come.


Moscow cancels two military exercises with India : NATION: India Today
 
Reaction to indians rejection of MRCA and moving into US camp>?


On the otherside they are moving closer to Pakistan!! Zardaris visit,Russia offering its latest jet,SCO support and Russian chief of staffs visit to GHQ!!
 
Reaction to indians rejection of MRCA and moving into US camp>?


On the otherside they are moving closer to Pakistan!! Zardaris visit,Russia offering its latest jet,SCO support and Russian chief of staffs visit to GHQ!!

Are you sure about the highlighted part?

Some Russian expert's views is not considered as Moscow's view.
 
indo-russian joint project for 25-35 billion dollars,launching of indian stealth frigates,upgrading of indian fighter jets and of IAF chief to russia suggests that we are very close to one another.Indo-Russia ki dosti ambuja cemnt se jo bani hai tutegi kaise aur woh bhi kisi chote mote reason ke liye.baat nahi banti.
 
I agree, it is not good sign.

Now it is right time to disappoint.
dawson_crying.gif


Read highlights:

The strategic partnership with Russia still holds.

Relations between India and Russia soured in recent years over the extended deadline for the refit of the aircraft carrier, Admiral Gorshkov. The refit slipped by four years and the its cost doubled to $2.3 billion. The carrier will now be delivered late next year. Deadlines for the acquisition of an Akula-II class nuclear-powered submarine have slipped by over three years. India paid $670 million for completing the submarine under a 2003 contract.

This month, a 100-man Indian crew that had gone to Vladivostok to bring the vessel back returned empty-handed. There is no word on when the strategic submarine, which the navy desperately needs, will be transferred to India. Russia is reportedly keen that India pay for the completion of a second unfinished Akula hull at the Komsomolsk shipyard. This has been turned down by the navy.

Russia is unhappy at losing a lucrative $10 billion contract for 126 multi-role medium combat aircraft.

The warning signs appeared at a recent joint meeting in Moscow when Russian defence officials refused to discuss military exercises. Evidently, it was a portent of the chill to come.
 
This is the best time for Pakistan to enhance ties with Russia while India moves closer to the United States.

Russia is not too happy with U.S. being in the region, Pakistan must become closer with Russia and China, and become a full member of SCO.
 
@ thread opener

I wonder why you chose your user name as BRICS while you seems not the citizen of any of the brics countries.... secondly you chooses flags relatively unknown countries to us... Are you so ashamed of your country or to show to show your true identity


@ topic

during last year russian prez to india, india itself gave nod to russia have relationship with pakistan and russia gave nod to have relationship with USA and western europe by making joint declaration....

russia and india are free to engage with any country according to their interest.

but there is nothing called as "snubbed"
 
I didn't expect that one coming. I thought Russia and India was supposed to be all weather? This is definitely a worrying sign for India despite the already done deals.
 
i dont think pakistan going to buy mig-35 even though russia offers. and RUSSIA is not a fool to loose india, for just 10b$. and RUSSIA not in a stage to give free aid to pakistan, so whats da issue. PAKISTAN have nothing to offer RUSSIA other than india
 
No one is disappointed buddy.Just a little bit of misunderstanding,quite common in friendship.By the way russia will think twice before selling fighters to you because there is a very high chance that the technology may fall in chinise hands.
 
Reaction to indians rejection of MRCA and moving into US camp>?


On the otherside they are moving closer to Pakistan!! Zardaris visit,Russia offering its latest jet,SCO support and Russian chief of staffs visit to GHQ!!

India rejected US jets too. Or is this just another case of Hashish overdose?
 
Reaction to indians rejection of MRCA and moving into US camp>?


On the otherside they are moving closer to Pakistan!! Zardaris visit,Russia offering its latest jet,SCO support and Russian chief of staffs visit to GHQ!!
India has rejected US too..and don't forget FGFA...Russia and India will be linked together for a long time to come..
Lets wait for other credible news agencies to report this...only one link (India today) is saying so.
 

Back
Top Bottom