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RAW Operating Against Pakistan

People are giving too much credit to an useless agency...no matter how much pakistanis like it to be true this agency isnt capable like they like to believe....you dont hear anything about this agency in the indian media or the international ones unlike ISI....i wont be surprised if it doesnt even exists :lol:.
 
People are giving too much credit to an useless agency...no matter how much pakistanis like it to be true this agency isnt capable like they like to believe....you dont hear anything about this agency in the indian media or the international ones unlike ISI....i wont be surprised if it doesnt even exists :lol:.
I think other wise, ISI is popular in the media for its bad decession of using non state actors who were not well prepared to act in case they are caught. not to mention their plans were short term victorious and in long term desastorus.
Where as RAW has maintained their secrecy, no one knows what they do, but they have managed to inflict fear in the mind of ISI top brasses
 
Come on man, the RAW is already booked for blaming for our other neighbor. Pakistan should find other agency, otherwise you gonna take the one excuse our other neighbor has.
 
RAW DOES EXACTLY WHAT ISI DOES AND ISI DOES EXACTLY WHAT RAW DOES.
This is 4th Generation Warfare.
Warfare is now an interlocking system of actions - political, diplomatic, economic, psychological, military, covert operations - this is the warof today.
Previously, we knew who exactly our enemy is but today no physical frontiers separate the two camps.
My question to everyone else: "Define terrorism."
 
According to a daily “The News” more than 100 Pakistani Baloch dissidents have been sent to India by the Indian consulate located in Kandhar (Afghanistan) for six-months training. These people were selected from areas bordering Pakistan as well as Baloch nationals residing in different camps in Kandhar. They have been promised a salary of $ 500- 1,000 on their return to Afghanistan. They will be imparted training in the fields of sniper shooting, handling of technical equipment such as GPS, wireless sets and intelligence gathering techniques. The handlers of the dissident Baloch elements plan to assign different targets in Baluchistan and Sindh provinces to the trained Baloch militants for sabotage and terrorist activities.

Ever since the Taliban were ousted from power and foreign troops landed in Afghanistan in late 2001, the Indians have been using the Afghan soil for sabotage and terrorist acts in Pakistan. Since 9/11, Indian influence has increased tremendously. India is following the strategy of the encirclement of Pakistan by making Afghanistan into a vocal anti-Pakistan client state with five very active Indian consulates along the Pak-Afghan border to destabilize Baluchistan and North West Frontier Province (NWFP). RAW has organized a network of training schools throughout Afghanistan. Some of these training centers are operating in Kabul, Jalalabad , Khawaja Ghar (Takhar Province), Khost, Paktia, Urgun, Kandhar, Spin Boldak and Dranj (Badakhshan Province). All these training centers are being used for indoctrinating minds of innocent people of FATA and Balochistan to work against Pakistan. Refugee camps for Balochistan dissidents have been established in bordering towns of Kandhar, Spin Bodlak, Helmond and Nirmoz where RAW has been given free access to interact for spotting and cultivating them. RAW with the help of local officials is providing financial support to Barhamdagh Bughti for undertaking terrorist activities in Balochistan. Spin Blodak is said to be the main hub of anti-Pakistan activities and the town is being used as a launching pad. RAW-RAAM used to providing weapons via Bajaur, Dir, Pewchar. In order to subvert loyalties of young generation, young Baloch students are spotted through senior Balochistan Student organization (BSO) hardliners, taken to Kabul for indoctrination, issued with Afghan passports and selected individuals then dispatched to training centers in various countries.

Apart from training, RAW also provided financial assistance for publication of propaganda material against Pakistan in Balochi Language, which in later distributed in Quetta, Khuzdar, Turbat, Gawader and Dera Bugti. In case of Baluchistan Indian role is not new. It is as old as the revolt itself. India is repeating the history and trying to separate Baluchistan just like East Pakistan. Pakistan has stockpiles of evidence against Indian consulates in Afghanistan that are being used to fund terrorism in Pakistan through Baitullah Mehsud’s TTP as well as Brahamdagh Bugti and his Baluchistan Liberation Army (BLA). A dossier containing proof of Indian involvement in “subversive activities” in Pakistan was handed over by Prime Minister Yousuf Raza Gilani to his Indian counterpart Manmohan Singh during their meeting at Sharm-el-Sheikh. A substantial part of the shared material deals with the Baluchistan insurgency and Indian linkages with the insurgents, particularly Brahamdagh Bugti, Burhan and Sher Khan. Photographs of their meetings with Indian operatives are part of the evidence, which also describes Bugti’s visit to India and the meetings he had with Indian secret service personnel. The dossier mentions an India-funded training camp at Kandahar where Baloch insurgents particularly from Bugti clan were being trained and provided arms and ammunition for sabotage activities in the Pakistani province. Similarly, Talal Bugti said that 300 Baloch nationalists are getting training at RAW’s training center in Afghanistan. The Baluchistan Chief Minister said that RAW was running terrorist training camps in Iran and Afghanistan. It has now set up 30 to 40 such camps in Baluchistan, each with training facility for 30 people who are paid 10,000 monthly.

Federation of American Scientists website comments on RAW, “RAW has engaged in disinformation campaigns, espionage and sabotage against Pakistan and other neighbouring countries. RAW has enjoyed the backing of successive Indian governments in these efforts. Working directly under the Prime Minister, the structure, rank, pay and perks of the Research and Analysis Wing are kept secret from Parliament”. Afghan officials have also confirmed that India is using Afghanistan to stir trouble in Pakistan. Afghan Government’s Advisor, Ehsanullah Aryanzai told, “India is using Afghan soil to destabilize Pakistan and Afghan security agencies are unable to stop Indian intervention due to absence of centralized government mechanism”. Indian spy outfits are using the Afghan provinces of Helmand and Kandahar to target Baluchistan. As much as eight foreign spy agencies are cramming this Pakistani territory.

India had invested over a billion dollars in Afghanistan so that it could build a base of operations against Pakistan. More than 10,000 Indian troops were stationed in Afghanistan under the garb of supervising the construction of Jalalabad- Chahbahar road project which was completed. Many mercantile shops run by Indians have an intelligence officer in the rear. RAW is providing them money, training, sophisticated weapons and satellite communication system. According to sources Indian intelligence officials working in the disguise of diplomats in embassy and consulates in Afghanistan have set up a vast covert operation network to destabilise FATA, northern areas and Baluchistan engaging dozens of Afghan, Indians, the drug dealers and the Afghan warlords.

According to sources, the US authorities strongly believe that RAW and some other Indian intelligence agencies base been the only source of terrorism in Pakistan. Jane’s information group, the world's foremost source on intelligence information, reported in July 2001 that the Indian spy agency RAW and the Israeli spy agency Mossad have created five new agencies to infiltrate Pakistan to target important religious and military personalities, journalists, judges lawyers and bureaucrats. In addition, bombs would be exploded in trains, railway stations, bridges, bus stations, cinemas, hotels and mosques of rival Islamic sects to incite sectarianism. Pakistani intelligence agencies also said that RAW had constituted a plan to lure Pakistani men between 20 and 30 years of age to visit India so they could be entrapped in cases of fake currency and subversion and then he cocked to spy for India.

The intention of the Indian government and RAW is that Pakistan should be so destabilized internally that it could not support the Kashmir cause even morally, diplomatically or politically. There is a need that international community should check the activities of RAW as it operates in a mafia style, each time overstepping the limits of intelligence operations. It has not, only indulged in cross-border terrorism, but also played a very significant role in creating and funding terrorist and extremist religious parties within India and other countries of the region. The Hindu extremist parties which are involved in terrorist activities in India such as Bajrang Dal (BD), Rashtria Sawayamsevak Sangh (RSS), and Shiv Sena (SS) etc enjoy complete backing and support of RAW. The agency uses these parties not only to carve out a role for itself in the internal politics but to divert the international focus from its terrorist activities. For that matter, it allowed these parties to carry out violent activities in India and throw onus on neighbouring countries. Fact of the matter is that Indian RAW is responsible for the present fragile situation of Pakistan as well as South Asia. By Mamoona Ali Kazmi

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Nawaz




oh teri*&^^(.
all these years i was under the impression that indian spy agencies are no good. they couldnt do any thing worthwhile in pak, but thanks yaar for opening my eyes.
on second thoughts even if u are wrong i pray that your words become a prophicy
 
It is RAW's job to destabilize Pakistan and maintain its existing control over Bangladesh. ISI and DGFI will not be able to counter them, we are outgunned. So we need to team up with other powers and fight back. For ISI, that would be China and for Bangladesh, this should be the US. We need to start looking at the human rights situation within India and ask these powers to provide support for indigenous insurgencies, so India is on the back foot. Kashmir population I think is too small to support an active insurgency. It is better to concentrate on others like Naxal, Maoists etc., while the North East state insurgencies should become a joint priority for both US and China. For Pakistan and Bangladesh, since we are neighbors to India, we cannot provide material support, but only moral support.

Kashmir should be shelved for now. It would come into play, only when Pakistan can make some progress with Eurasia+ regional union concept. Iranians, Pakistani's and Afghans should start working with their Russian speaking population (many of whom have been educated in Russia or former Soviet republics), so ties are strengthened between Russia and these three countries. Russia may like India as a big market, but once Iranians, Pakistani's and Afghani's decide to work with Russians, the strategic situation for India will change. Give India SCO membership, so it does not work with the US, so it is good for everyone, China as well as Eurasia+. When Iran, Pakistan and Afghanistan become part of renewed Russian empire, only then this new entity can ask for making Kashmir a part of this union. I think India would not mind giving up Kashmir for their Russian friends, if they ask for this small gift.:D

And for a start insurgencies are the key word to hold India and its growth level down.
 
It is RAW's job to destabilize Pakistan and maintain its existing control over Bangladesh. ISI and DGFI will not be able to counter them, we are outgunned. So we need to team up with other powers and fight back. For ISI, that would be China and for Bangladesh, this should be the US. We need to start looking at the human rights situation within India and ask these powers to provide support for indigenous insurgencies, so India is on the back foot. Kashmir population I think is too small to support an active insurgency. It is better to concentrate on others like Naxal, Maoists etc., while the North East state insurgencies should become a joint priority for both US and China. For Pakistan and Bangladesh, since we are neighbors to India, we cannot provide material support, but only moral support.

Kashmir should be shelved for now. It would come into play, only when Pakistan can make some progress with Eurasia+ regional union concept. Iranians, Pakistani's and Afghans should start working with their Russian speaking population (many of whom have been educated in Russia or former Soviet republics), so ties are strengthened between Russia and these three countries. Russia may like India as a big market, but once Iranians, Pakistani's and Afghani's decide to work with Russians, the strategic situation for India will change. Give India SCO membership, so it does not work with the US, so it is good for everyone, China as well as Eurasia+. When Iran, Pakistan and Afghanistan become part of renewed Russian empire, only then this new entity can ask for making Kashmir a part of this union. I think India would not mind giving up Kashmir for their Russian friends, if they ask for this small gift.:D

And for a start insurgencies are the key word to hold India and its growth level down.

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It is RAW's job to destabilize Pakistan and maintain its existing control over Bangladesh. ISI and DGFI will not be able to counter them, we are outgunned. So we need to team up with other powers and fight back. For ISI, that would be China and for Bangladesh, this should be the US. We need to start looking at the human rights situation within India and ask these powers to provide support for indigenous insurgencies, so India is on the back foot. Kashmir population I think is too small to support an active insurgency. It is better to concentrate on others like Naxal, Maoists etc., while the North East state insurgencies should become a joint priority for both US and China. For Pakistan and Bangladesh, since we are neighbors to India, we cannot provide material support, but only moral support.

Kashmir should be shelved for now. It would come into play, only when Pakistan can make some progress with Eurasia+ regional union concept. Iranians, Pakistani's and Afghans should start working with their Russian speaking population (many of whom have been educated in Russia or former Soviet republics), so ties are strengthened between Russia and these three countries. Russia may like India as a big market, but once Iranians, Pakistani's and Afghani's decide to work with Russians, the strategic situation for India will change. Give India SCO membership, so it does not work with the US, so it is good for everyone, China as well as Eurasia+. When Iran, Pakistan and Afghanistan become part of renewed Russian empire, only then this new entity can ask for making Kashmir a part of this union. I think India would not mind giving up Kashmir for their Russian friends, if they ask for this small gift.:D

And for a start insurgencies are the key word to hold India and its growth level down.

Couple of things here -
1. Its not that our neighbors have not supported insurgencies - materialistically / monetarily against us, India has been struggling with these externally supported insurgencies from many years.
The Kashmiri insurgency / Kalistan movement was clandestinely supported by Pakistan, a number of North East based insurgents were supported by Myanmar, Bangladesh and China.
Its just recently that India has been able to control them to some extent - Freedom movement in Pakistan - specially Baluchistan is indigenous and most likely nothing to do with India - other separation movements there - Paktoonistan or Sindhu desh are again Indigenous and quite likely they are against Pakistan's own neglect towards them - again most likely nothing to do with India - Bangladesh was hosting Islamic insurgents for some time, China has a long history of supporting insurgency in numerous countries like Indonesia, Thailand and Myanmar.

Secondly the new silk road is what India and the US are keen on, this new road links Central Asia to South Asia and via Burma to the rest of East Asia, there is also a sea route in this New silk road that starts from the Persian Gulf through India's coast in the Arabian Sea, Indian Ocean and the BOB and possibly a port in BD and carries on towards the SCS, a Northern portion of this road - which China is working on crosses through Mainland China and over Tibet connects with the Indian portion of the road.

Russia's main interest is in Afghanistan - basically to counter terrorism and drug trafficking. China is also looking at a stable Afghanistan. Indo Russo relations are solid and have been going on for the last 65 years, India china relations will only get better, India - US share a strategic partnership. India's look east policy has paved the way for greater relations with Japan and South Korea. Vietnam and Thailand share cordial relations with us. Canada is ratifying a Free Trade Agreement with us. Russia is looking to triple trade with us - so is China. France is a dear friend of India. Any regional association view will not work if its hostile towards India.
 
There are plenty of places in india Pakistan and Bangladesh for that matter can target. Maoist are waiting, entire NE is ripe case for independence. Kashmir is the most important and legit case for help break indian occupation.
 
Couple of things here -
1. Its not that our neighbors have not supported insurgencies - materialistically / monetarily against us, India has been struggling with these externally supported insurgencies from many years.
The Kashmiri insurgency / Kalistan movement was clandestinely supported by Pakistan, a number of North East based insurgents were supported by Myanmar, Bangladesh and China.
Its just recently that India has been able to control them to some extent - Freedom movement in Pakistan - specially Baluchistan is indigenous and most likely nothing to do with India - other separation movements there - Paktoonistan or Sindhu desh are again Indigenous and quite likely they are against Pakistan's own neglect towards them - again most likely nothing to do with India - Bangladesh was hosting Islamic insurgents for some time, China has a long history of supporting insurgency in numerous countries like Indonesia, Thailand and Myanmar.

Secondly the new silk road is what India and the US are keen on, this new road links Central Asia to South Asia and via Burma to the rest of East Asia, there is also a sea route in this New silk road that starts from the Persian Gulf through India's coast in the Arabian Sea, Indian Ocean and the BOB and possibly a port in BD and carries on towards the SCS, a Northern portion of this road - which China is working on crosses through Mainland China and over Tibet connects with the Indian portion of the road.

Russia's main interest is in Afghanistan - basically to counter terrorism and drug trafficking. China is also looking at a stable Afghanistan. Indo Russo relations are solid and have been going on for the last 65 years, India china relations will only get better, India - US share a strategic partnership. India's look east policy has paved the way for greater relations with Japan and South Korea. Vietnam and Thailand share cordial relations with us. Canada is ratifying a Free Trade Agreement with us. Russia is looking to triple trade with us - so is China. France is a dear friend of India. Any regional association view will not work if its hostile towards India.

Keyword here is non-Islamic insurgency, outside powers should stay away from Islamic extremist insurgency, for obvious reasons, but other insurgencies which are not Islamic are fair game, as they will not threaten their home turf.

People fight because their rights have been violated, they should be supported wherever they are, whether they are in mainland India, NE India or Myanmar.
 
There are plenty of places in india Pakistan and Bangladesh for that matter can target. Maoist are waiting, entire NE is ripe case for independence. Kashmir is the most important and legit case for help break indian occupation.

:lol::lol: yeah right.
 
Bangladeshi jamati wet dreams... :rofl: :rofl:

There are plenty of places in india Pakistan and Bangladesh for that matter can target. Maoist are waiting, entire NE is ripe case for independence. Kashmir is the most important and legit case for help break indian occupation.
 
Keyword here is non-Islamic insurgency, outside powers should stay away from Islamic extremist insurgency, for obvious reasons, but other insurgencies which are not Islamic are fair game, as they will not threaten their home turf.

People fight because their rights have been violated, they should be supported wherever they are, whether they are in mainland India, NE India or Myanmar.

:rolleyes:

@ jaunty, that was the right reply Bro. I just wasted my time on some losers.

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The usual bunch of Pakistanis stranded in Bangladesh trying to be holier than the Pope. Give it a rest guys nobody takes you seriously. Even Pakistan does not want you. Think!
 
india can not use the Islam phobia to undermine its neighbors and push its hegemonic envelop much longer. Even US has exusted that path and desperately looking for new enemy, hence the "Asia pivot" getting wind. And if one watch carefully indians are not that eager to play on ""Asia pivot" game because that takes attention away from free Islam phobia ride indians were enjoying. Uncle knows it and at some point will put india on spot to choose "with us" or "against us". In the middle path india will be left with even more call of independence. Pakistan (any other country for that matter) for its part needs to keep its eye and mind open to what india is doing behind their back than in the front.
 

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