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Meri jaan k totay... you were 1000 $ richer last time and had a bigger middleclass just half an hour ago... if you want more even this wikipedia diagram wont last 5 mins..:lol:

Peace..

Yes, on an average an Indian is richer than a Pakistani, but there is also more income disparity in India as compared to Pakistan.
 
This map says both Pakistan and India are on the same boat

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More or less we are but the figures are inaccurate presentation though not incorrect !

Table 5 of the Human Development Report 2013 of the UNDP (Pages 160 & 161) gives India a percentage multi-dimensional poverty level of 53.7 % with an absolute figure of 612,203,000 people while a poverty level as per the PPP $1.25 a day (the standard below income poverty line) at 32.7 %.

Pakistan is close ahead at 49.4 % & 81,236,000 respectively, in multi-dimensional poverty level while it stands at 21% as per the PPP $1.25 a day.

So marginally better as per Multi-Dimensional Poverty Level whilst substantially better in PPP $1.25 a day terms.

Is this what you guys were arguing about @DESERT FIGHTER ? :what:
 
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Pakistan 1,290 2012
India 1,489 2012

I hate economics and maths so you gotta *** the both for me on this one.
Pak's GDP is 1290 based on PKR vs USD and still not that far behind India's?
What is the 2013 gonna be? There has been so much rupee fluctuation this year.
 
Yeah im sure cameras of tht low quality didnt exist in the 80s.. and the guy being interviewed stating the date was a lie ... aur ****** hona hai tujay? post the video and again ... AND AGAIN GET EMBARASSED WHEN I POINT OUT THE DATE FROM THE VIDEO .. :lol:

You better again watch that video(I just saw it once again) and try to comprehend if such video quality existed during 1980s. There are also some PTV videos on youtube from the last year, compare it too. :omghaha:
 
Yes, on an average an Indian is richer than a Pakistani, but there is also more income disparity in India as compared to Pakistan.

:lol:

Looks like common sense in not common in india...

Compare 25% (which is wrong.. but lets agree for the sake of it) indian middlerclass vs 40% stong Pakistani middleclass see the difference? as for an average indian being richer ... with what 100 $ ?

Screw tht lets talk abt income disparity.. do you think tht 25% indians are middleclass ... while the rest 75% are rich billionaires? more poverty than sub saharan africa ring anybells?

Also take a look at indians above poverty line and compare it with Pakistan... need i say more?
 
You better again watch that video(I just saw it once again) and try to comprehend if such video quality existed during 1980s. There are also some PTV videos on youtube from the last year, compare it too. :omghaha:

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Damn man... you surely arent just "special" but blind and dumb..
 
Pakistanis derailing the thread from first post to hide their shame that Muslim Pakistanis from "madina-e-sani" are seeking asylum in India . Not to mention their stars .
 
:lol:

Looks like common sense in not common in india...

Compare 25% (which is wrong.. but lets agree for the sake of it) indian middlerclass vs 40% stong Pakistani middleclass see the difference? as for an average indian being richer ... with what 100 $ ?

Screw tht lets talk abt income disparity.. do you think tht 25% indians are middleclass ... while the rest 75% are rich billionaires? more poverty than sub saharan africa ring anybells?

Also take a look at indians above poverty line and compare it with Pakistan... need i say more?

Is the middle class that big? - DAWN.COM

Even according to the World Bank data that Burki uses to support his estimate, 80 per cent of the people live under $3 dollar a day or less. If we define the top two per cent as the rich, only 18 per cent of the population would fall into middle class category. This would mean 31 million people in 2010 using the World Bank figures for income and population and ignoring any skewed income distribution.
 
:lol:

Looks like common sense in not common in india...

Compare 25% (which is wrong.. but lets agree for the sake of it) indian middlerclass vs 40% stong Pakistani middleclass see the difference? as for an average indian being richer ... with what 100 $ ?

Screw tht lets talk abt income disparity.. do you think tht 25% indians are middleclass ... while the rest 75% are rich billionaires? more poverty than sub saharan africa ring anybells?

Also take a look at indians above poverty line and compare it with Pakistan... need i say more?

Now this is what I say is a idiotic post. What is your point? What do you want to say? What is the math? How did you arrived at your conclusions? :lol:
 

First this is a personal opinion from the inpapermag... which doesnt talk with stats etc... etc .. but the surveys,data collected,including like of ADB, is the proof of the 40% middleclass thing..

Also il post new articles from the same newspaper (this one is more than an year old)


Here:

In resilient Pakistan, emerging middle class powers FMCG sector

KARACHI:
Procter & Gamble (P&G), one of the world’s largest consumer goods company, has recognised Pakistan as one of the top 10 emerging markets to focus investment in. This sounds like good news for our cash-strapped economy, and it is equally good news for those who have invested in P&G.
It makes sense for any fast moving consumer goods (FMCG) to invest in a country where the world’s biggest consumer goods names – Unilever, P&G, Nestle and Mondel-z (formerly Kraft Foods) – are not only operating, but also growing significantly.
According to the State Bank of Pakistan, the net profits of FMCG companies listed on the Karachi Stock Exchange grew in excess of 20% in fiscal year (FY) 2011-12. P&G, which is not listed on the KSE, has witnessed tremendous growth in revenues during the past three years – including 50% revenue growth in FY2012. Besides the consumer goods sector, its supporting industries like packaging and distribution companies have also seen their toplines grow significantly.
So what are the factors contributing to this growth?
If the fact that these companies are selling essential food items and consumer goods in the world’s sixth-largest market by consumer size is not satisfying enough for you, here’s a more detailed and nuanced explanation.
“Economics and demographics are together at play in Pakistan,” P&G Pakistan Country Manager Faisal Sabzwari told this correspondent in a recent interview. The boom in the rural economy has also been a major contributor to their growth – thanks to a series of bumper crops of agricultural produce and wheat support prices, which were raised by the government in recent years.
Besides this, according to Sabzwari, Pakistan is one of the top countries adding 20-somethings to its workforce; these are the people establishing families, getting new jobs and helping market sizes grow.
“We have millions of consumers entering independent disposable income space in their lives every year,” Sabzwari said, while referring to the growing middle class.
The market size in Pakistan has also grown in terms of volumes, without taking pricing into account. “Increasing urbanisation and the growing middle class are key drivers of the FMCG business,” Sabzwari said.
Pakistan’s is urbanising faster than other developing countries, according to Sabzwari. “The country’s population is growing at under 3%, while the rate of migration to urban centres is even higher,” according to Muzammil Aslam, managing director at Emerging Markets Rsearch.
“A population base of 180 million talented and hard-working people hungry for prosperity ensures that nothing can hold this country back from growing,” P&G Pakistan’s chief said. While looking at the growing middle class, he said, it is important to look at their consumption habits. “We are exposing more consumers to value brands like Pampers and Always,” he explained.
It may be added here that consumer spending in Pakistan has increased by an average of 26% in three years, according to a Bloomberg report published on November 21, 2012 – a strong sign that people are consuming more goods than ever before.
This rise in consumer demand has spurred the growth of supermarkets across major urban centres, which include, but are no longer limited to Karachi, Hyderabad, Multan, Lahore, Faisalabad and Islamabad.
Such superstores are getting larger and asking manufacturers for broader brand portfolios in order to serve their customers better. They have larger shelves, enabling them to have more sophisticated and developed categories in which they can stock more products than ever before.
This growth, Sabzwari said, is also testament to an emerging class population segment called the Pakistan One Plus class. This is a growing bulk of affluent consumers that want to be serviced: they demand products which have been launched in Europe but are not yet available here, he said. These are expensive, premier brands; and retailers are asking P&G for such products to service their customers.
These factors are the ones actually driving growth in the FMCG sector and allied industries over the past few years, in utter disregard to all the negative aspects of the Pakistani economy.
Published in The Express Tribune, June 24th, 2013.
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Pakistan's middle class defies 'conservative' stereotype:


KARACHI: American fast-food and Western fashion outlets are taking Pakistan's growing middle class by storm, defying stereotypes about a conservative Muslim country plagued by violence.

The rupee may have nose-dived, a third of the population may live in poverty and sectarian violence may be at a record high, but remarkably, consumer spending is up among a resilient elite fond of imported luxuries.

In a smart corner of Karachi, a new mall offers wealthy clientele the chance to lunch on an American burger, buy French cosmetics, shop for cocktail dresses, sip an afternoon cappuccino or wolf down a cinnamon roll.

Female sales assistants dressed in jeans and T-shirts buck the idea that “service industry” jobs are unsuitable for women, even if many of them commute into work heavily veiled to avoid being harassed or insulted.

“It is time when Pakistanis are getting branded. It is a new phenomenon,” says Samiullah Mohabbat, the chief executive who brought American franchise Fatburger from Beverly Hills to Karachi, a city troubled by shootings and kidnappings.

“The world has just started coming to Pakistan and this trend will grow.”

While the economy has stagnated in the last five years, a business and foreign investment boom after the 9/11 attacks widened employment opportunities. Television was liberalised in 1999 and public sector salaries were increased.

As a result, the middle class has grown over the last decade. Karachi, the country's financial hub, Lahore and the capital Islamabad have all seen a surge in Western-style coffee shops, fast-food franchises and new malls.

Karachi's Dolmen Mall is the newest and flashiest.

There is Spanish fashion favourite Mango, US beauty and home firm Crabtree and Evelyn and British high street staples Mothercare and Debenhams.

But when it comes to food, Mohabbat says “American is best”. Regardless of the political tensions in Islamabad's relations with Washington, many wealthy Pakistanis are attracted to American films, clothes, music and of course food.

Mohabbat has invested $7 million in opening Pakistan's first Fatburger restaurant last month on the second floor of Dolmen Mall, with plans for another in Karachi, two in Lahore and a fifth in Islamabad.

Far from seeing the country's troubles as a bar to business, Mohabbat says a $5.50 burger is the perfect antidote.

“Food is the only entertainment in Pakistan,” he said. “People are certainly frightened because of the law and order situation, so they don't go anywhere except food outlets.”

At lunch time, his 130-seat restaurant is buzzing. In Beverly Hills, there may be nothing exciting about going out for a burger, but in Karachi the novelty and the relative expense make it a sought-after privilege.

The walls are plastered with large notebook papers scribbled with the experiences of the clients. “Yummilicious,” screeches out one.

There is a scrum at the counters as customers wait their turn. A dozen workers cut and cook imported American beef, slathering it with spices and vegetables, shoving it in a bun and handing it to the waiters.

“It's certainly quite expensive for the average Pakistani, but I prefer it because I can afford it,” says businessman Masroor Afzal, 44, who works round the corner and says he frequently pops over.

“The beauty of Karachi is that it has everything for everyone. There are many people who can't afford to eat or shop here, but they have other bazaars.”

Analysts say there is enormous potential in Pakistan as a market for global consumer goods, despite the structural problems in the economy.

According to the finance ministry, 104 million people are aged 15 to 59 and by 2030, 30 percent of the population will be younger than 30.

Khurram Schehzad, head of research at investment firm Arif Habib Securities in Karachi, says consumer spending has grown 26 percent in Pakistan since 2010, compared to seven percent for Asia as a whole.

Business mogul Abid Umer says there is “tremendous potential” for retail.

His Al-Karam Group brought its first foreign franchises – Babyshop from Bahrain and Splash from the United Arab Emirates – to Pakistan in 2005. Today his portfolio has extended to Mango.

“Pakistan is full of aspirational customers,” said Umer.

“Sure, Pakistan has its share of issues but in most cases, day to day life is not affected, plus the tremendous customer response and low cost of operations makes it worthwhile.”

On Saturday, a woman and a security guard were shot and wounded when men opened fire in the Dolmen Mall car park, police said.

The motive for the attack was not immediately clear. Witnesses said the woman was accompanied by her daughter and maid. The attackers escaped.

Helen Lacey, Debenhams' senior PR manager, told AFP the company had carried out extensive market research and had "no current security concerns".

"International brands in Pakistan in general are performing strongly. This is a large and growing market and there is a clear appetite for British brands here and growth potential with a rapidly growing middle class," she said.

But Mohabbat admits it can be difficult persuading foreigners to invest in a country plagued by terrorism, political and sectarian murders and a grave energy crisis. Most Western governments advise against travel to Pakistan.

"The most challenging thing for us is to convince people about Pakistan. We put our case and show them the true picture, which does not show Pakistan as a totally dangerous country," said Mohabbat.




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The promise of Pakistani middle class

Momin Iftikhar
“In our personal ambitions, we are individualists. But in our seeking for economic and political progress as a nation, we all go up or else we all go down, as one people.”
– Franklin D. Roosevelt
The emergence of a broad-based and assertive middle class in Pakistan, which is progressive, liberal and upwardly mobile and perceived universally as harbinger of a bright future is a good omen for the country. This vital stratum of any society, which embodies the aspirations and ideals of a nation, is rather a difficult entity to define, but is certainly linked to the acquisition of relative affluence. The essential presence of expendable money and the resultant attainment of purchasing power is only one facet of this societal phenomenon. To many sociologists, the middle class is more closely associated with the pursuit of higher education, association with liberalism, demand for a fair society and expectations for transparent governance. Drawing parallel with universal models, the rise of Pakistani middle class raises expectations as an engine of positive change and most would find their promise irresistible, yet there are bound to be detractors. A counter thesis by a writer-cum-analyst challenges the notion by postulating that Pakistan would not be able to benefit from the rising middle class values, because, according to the writer’s contention, this powerful driver of social change has been perverted and polluted by ills of the State/society.
The hearts and minds get attracted to where they are appreciated and, perhaps, this was a major reason that the analyst selected an Indian magazine, Economic and Political Weekly, for the propagation of her difficult to articulate thesis. The motivation for writer to take up the issue, as she explained in her paper, was the publication of three books that predicted a bright future for Pakistan, based on the rise of a strident and expanding Pakistani middle class; Maleeha Lodhi’s Pakistan: Beyond the Crisis State; Anatol Lieven’s Pakistan: A Hard Country and Javed Jabbar’s Pakistan - Unique Origins; Unique Destiny. She picked her pen to propound a counter narrative to the sanguinary central theme of the aforementioned books, denigrating the potential of the Pakistani middle class and negating that it would open doors to socio-political and socio-economic modernity in Pakistan.
Her essay, which seeks to castigate and berate the Pakistani middle class, is no objective, naturally flowing articulation of logical thought process or based on any genuine research work leading to the advancement of a rational argument. Detached from the ground reality, it comes across as rather a skewed piece of scholarship that rational readership would find difficult to follow through. To her, the rise of a tainted middle class in Pakistan would not usher in liberal, progressive modernity per se, but would move forward on a pattern structured along the axes of neo-liberal nationalism and rightwing radical nationalism. According to her, the meeting point of these two trajectories has turned Pakistan into a “hybrid theocratic State, which encapsulates a mix of economic neo-liberalism, pockets of social liberalism, formal theocracy and larger spaces experiencing informal theocracy”; ideas that are hard to translate into comprehensible version of the contemporary state of affairs.
The writer’s resultant assessment reflects Pakistan’s middle class in an execrable state. She asserts that the expansion of middle class in Pakistan does not necessarily mean political development, because it has “always supported and benefited from authoritarianism”. She even goes to the extent of attributing the rise of Imran Khan’s Pakistan Tehrik-i-Insaf, as a plan for “wrangling political control through the army’s help.” Even the media and the legal community do not escape the negative swathe of her broad-brush; “the media and judiciary both have authoritarian, center right nationalist and even latent radical perspectives,” she observes. She challenges the widely held belief that the military as an institution has emerged as a representative of progressive, middle class ethos bearing the capacity of playing a catalyst role, critical for change. She even attributes the wave of radicalism, as part of the “evolving politics and psychology of the middle class.”
In playing out her wishful thinking, she seems to be absolutely out of touch with the obtaining realities in Pakistan where the rise and unprecedented expansion of the middle class is blazing new trails towards a bright future. According to the ADB Report on Asia’s rising middle class, the Pakistani middle class has grown to 40 percent of the population, significantly larger than India’s 25 percent of the population pie; outstripping its neighbor 36.5 percent to 12.8 percent on a comparative scale of growth since 1990. As a mark of upwardly mobile consumerism, the chief of Nestle Pakistan finds the local market’s per capita consumption of world’s largest packaged food products twice as much as they have it in India or China. The Economic Survey of Pakistan 2010-2011 reported that the first nine months of the year under review saw production of television sets jump to 28.6 percent and automobile production increase by 14.6 percent.
The materialist side of the upward mobility is duplicated in the field of positive, progressive and liberal trends displayed by the Pakistani population. According to Nicholas D. Kristof’s report, A Girl, a School and Hope, published in the New York Times, members of Pakistan’s emerging middle class are ‘stepping up to the plate’. “They (Pakistani middle class) are enraged at the terrorists, who have been tearing apart their country, they are appalled by corruption and illiteracy, and they want peace so that their children can become educated and live a better life,” he writes. The most significant development remains the focus on education that has emerged as the major game changer, whereby one-fourth of Pakistani children attend private schools, despite high cost fee structures compared to public schools associated with low standard of academic accomplishments. The Pakistani educated youth driven by an urge to change the status quo, are getting ready to use the ballot to achieve this end. The right to vote was hardly, if ever, exercised by their elders with such dedication and sense of purpose.
The media has found a liberty of action comparable to any country in the world. The judiciary is independent and undaunted and resultantly the misuse of power, corruption and poor governance resorted to by the system stands exposed and is bound to regress. There is a lot of ground to make up and the naysayers may continue with their witches brew of concocted and negative predictions, but the Pakistani middle class is on the rise and the future looks bright - God willing!






ADB REPORT:


Part I: Special Chapter: Toward Higher Quality Employment in Asia | Asian Development Bank





Research Paper:


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WB,ADB reports:


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Now lets come to india your 25% middleclass:


The myth of the great Indian Middle class: Roughly 30 per cent of India's population still lives below the poverty line
By RADHIKA SARAF

PUBLISHED: 21:11 GMT, 19 May 2013 | UPDATED: 01:16 GMT, 21 May 2013

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As political parties get battle ready for the 2014 general elections, the great Indian middle class is again in the spotlight.

Every political party wants the biggest pie of this vote bank, whose tilt can decide who will form the next government at the Centre.

India's middle class will hit 250 million or 20 per cent of the country's population in 2015, according to McKinsey and Company. But, what is the middle class? How has it evolved into such a driving force?

Myth: India¿s middle class will hit 250 million or 20 per cent of the population in 2015, according to a report
Myth: India¿s middle class will hit 250 million or 20 per cent of the population in 2015, according to a report

Busted

The year 1991 was a landmark in India's economic and political history. And by throwing its doors open to the foreign world, it created two myths - the great Indian middle class and the great Indian growth story.


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However, the myth was soon busted when the 300 million middle-class figure projected in 1991 actually stood at 30 million. According to the standards set by the Asian Development Bank, members of the middleclass consume on average $2- $20 a day.

Is the vulnerable middle- class who consumes $2 a day better fitted to be called the middle-class? Or the middlemiddle class who spends $4-$10 a day? Or, the upper-middle class who can afford expenditures of $10-$20 a day?

mapping inequality
Census

Twenty years hence, the 2011 census shows that only 4.6 per cent of India's population has ownership of all four assets - television, computer/laptop, scooter/car and telephone/ mobile phone.

While the limiting asset is computer with only 9.5 per cent ownership, 21 per cent owns a scooter and 63 per cent owns a phone.

WHAT INDIA OWNS
■ Bicycles: 44.8% ■ Car/jeep/van: 4.7%
■ Computer/laptop: 9.5%
■ Computer/laptop with internet: 3.1%
■ Computer/laptop without internet: 6.3%
■ Radio/transistor: 19.9%
■ Scooter/motorcycle/ moped: 21%
■ Telephone/mobile phone: 63.2%
■ Both telephone and mobile phone: 6%
■ Landline only: 4% ■ Mobile only: 53.2%
■ TV: 47.2%
■ TV, computer/laptop, telephone/mobile phone, scooter/car: 4.6%
■ None of the specified assets available: 17.8%

And while roughly 30 per cent of India's population lives below the poverty line, 17.8 per cent owns none of the specified assets in the census chart.

Then, which is the rising middle-class, and which of these middle classes do Rahul Gandhi and Narendra Modi refer to in their promises of the future?

While there is the so-called affluent belt from Himachal Pradesh through Punjab, Haryana and UP in the north, and a chunk of Kerala, Tamil Nadu and Andhra in the south, in Chandigarh, the most affluent state in terms of ownership, this is true for only 28.6 per cent of households.

In contrast, a poverty belt starts from the tribal belt of North-West India, which includes the Central India Tribal Belt, parts of Bihar, Orissa and the North-East. Moreover, inequality is rising both between and within affluent and poor states, for instance, in Maharashtra and Bihar.

The great Indian growth story is not trickling down. So, are we the 4.6 per cent? The 17.8 per cent? The 21 per cent? Or the 63 per cent? Are you the middle-class that the political class is trying to woo?


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Middleclass Myth:




Dipak and Deepa (names made up) take pride in describing themselves as belonging to the great, and ever-expanding, Indian middle class, which is the most visible symbol of the country's slow but sustained stumble to greater prosperity.

In their mid-thirties, Dipak and Deepa live in their home-loan-bought 3BHK flat in a metro suburb. As they both have career jobs, they are a two-car family. They both speak fluent English, Dipak with an induced Punjabi accent to gloss over the American twang he unintentionally acquired during his four-year college stint in the US.

Health faddists, they don't smoke or drink, except for an infrequent glass of French Chardonnay on celebratory occasions. The family, which includes two children, dines out once a week, and holidays twice a year, once in India and once in the form of a foreign package tour. With their children aged nine and 10, the couple have already started making financial provisions to enrol them, after their schooling is done, in an American university, preferably the one that Dipak himself went to.

Dipak and Deepa insist on calling themselves 'middle class', a category which according to varying estimates currently ranges between 150 million and 300 million. But very, very few of these millions are Dipaks and Deepas.

A family of four, living in two rooms in a tenement on a total monthly income between 15,000 and 20,000 a month and owning a TV set, a refrigerator and a scooter would qualify for 'middle class' status in India. So who constitutes India's true 'middle class': Dipak and Deepa, or the family of four precariously perched on a scooter?

For all their 'middle class' pronouncements, the mythical Deepa and Dipak belong to that elite 1% of this country which is in the enviable position of being obliged to pay personal income tax. For members of such a privileged elite to label themselves as 'middle class' is like a 60-year-old claiming to be 'middle-aged', thereby implying a projected lifespan of 120 years.

Why do India's Deepas and Dipaks, and there are quite a few of them, persist in alluding to themselves as 'middle class'? Is it hypocrisy? Is it a form of inverse snobbery, a relic of Nehruvian India when affluence was considered a socially transmitted disease, a precursor to AIDS? Is it an attempt to avert the evil eye of envy, the way truck drivers dangle strings of limes and green chillies from the rear ends of their vehicles? Or is it a way for the relatively well-off to distinguish themselves from the uber-rich: the high-flying tycoons and the captains of industry, the mega-buck movie stars and the cricket crore-patis, and all those other super-wealthy Indians, many of whom have contributed to an estimated $20 trillion — 1½ times the size of America's GDP — said to be parked in the 60-odd 'tax havens' scattered across the world, from the Cayman Islands to the City of London?

But whatever the reason, or combination of reasons, for it, the 'middle class' tag ill fits Deepa and Dipak. Would 'muddle class' be better? Or should it be 'medal class'? Because if for no reason other than that of determined self-deprecation, India's Deepas and Dipaks surely deserve a medal.


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Most of Indian 'middle class' earns between Rs 1000-2000
NEW DELHI: Despite its shaky empirical foundations, the myth of the Great Indian Middle Class persists. A new Asian Development Bank report lauds the rise of the Indian middle class and projects it as the engine of global growth. However, according to the definition used in the report itself, the vast majority of this middle class earns between Rs 1,000 and Rs 2,000 per person per month. Only 0.0009% of Indians earn more than Rs 10,000 per month.

The ADB's Key Indicators for Asia and the Pacific 2010 report released this week has a special chapter on the Rise of Asia's Middle Classes. Projecting that the Asian middle class will dominate the next two decades (including crossing a billion in India alone by 2030), the report says that Asia's emerging consumers are likely to assume the traditional role of the US and European middle classes as global consumers, and to play a key role in rebalancing the world's economy.

Now this is what I say is a idiotic post. What is your point? What do you want to say? What is the math? How did you arrived at your conclusions? :lol:

So you end up getting owned and start getting personal?

P.S: Hows your 1000 $ and God knows what else! spend carefully.. LMAO...
 
Appalled by the low level of intelligence shown by pakistani users in this thread.

They are comparing poverty figures and somehow trying to show that India is not a place to live in. But what you guys are showing are absolute numbers of poverty. India is a large country so even a fractional % can cross the population of "sub saharn african poors" as pakistanis like to taunt.

So India definately has high levels of hunger and poverty but it doesn't implies that well off people have to go through the same condition! In number's terms pakistan would be surely crossing us in some form of development but average quality of life is better for a middle class person in India then pakistan because we have less power-cuts,more peace(except some insurgency areas), more better options for education and employement etc etc. That's why more MNC's in India.

If a person is educated,is employable and is a foreigner and he is given a choice to shift to either Pakistan or India then guess where will he shift? Answer is obvious,as it is India. More opportunities here for growth. Hunger index is useless here because the person being considered already is well fed and want a job which is possible in India more then Pakistan.

Although India need lotsss of development to provide decent life to all its citizens.
 
In 65 years, India excels Pakistan in many fields - thenews.com.pk

In 65 years, India excels Pakistan in many fields

> These latest July 2012 numbers further reveal that Pakistan’s GDP per capita is $2,800, while that of India is $3,700.

Nice article. There is no comparison between India and Pakistan as India has definately more potential and more on the track.
But doesn't mean that India is a nice country as still millions our fellow citizens live a hellish life.

The race between Pakistan and India(comparison in this thread) is like a paralympics race,no wonder who wins they will still be retard.
 

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