Pakistan Navy Submarine Force to Equal the Indian Navy’s in Numbers with Purchase of 8 Chinese Subs

[Ultima Thule]

They will probably build Ballistic Missile Submarine also.

just rumors you idiot

 

[RoadRunner401]

This is my highly classified aircraft carrier how did you get the pics for this

 

[nomi007]

i still not believe that the capabilities of the subs are equal to
German Sweden & french subs

 

[monitor]

Sir what does that part mean!
Export version is downgraded? Can we get Original version or we are getting export version.

You are getting customize version of S-20 which will have AIP .

Pakistan has finalized a deal to acquire eight Chinese-made S20 diesel-electric submarines for the Pakistan Navy, making this class of submarine the most numerous in the navy's Submarine Service Force (SSF) and giving the SSF numerical parity with its opposite number in India.

Under the deal with China, four of the ultra-quiet subs will be made at the Karachi Shipyard & Engineering Works (KSEW) while the remaining four will be built in China. Four of the subs will be delivered by 2023 with the remainder by 2028.

The eight S20s will be capable of firing anti-ship missiles (ASMs) while submerged, an advantage enjoyed by its three sister submarines in the Khalid-class and two in the Agosta-70 class. The addition of the eight S20s will bring to 13 the number of modern submarines in the SSF.

The Khalid class can fire French-made Exocet missiles while the Agosta 70A subs can unleash United States Harpoon missiles. The S20s will most likely fire Chinese-made ASMs.

The original Chinese version of the S20, the Type 041 Yuan-class, can fire YJ-8 ASMs. The export version of the YJ-8, the C-802, was used by Yemeni Houthi rebels to attack a U.S. Navy destroyer three times this month in the Red Sea. All the C-802s missed their target.

The Type-041's torpedo armament includes Yu-4 (SAET-50) passive homing and Yu-3 (SET-65E) active/passive homing torpedoes.

The Type-041 is the quietest submarine in the People's Liberation Army Navy Submarine Force. The Type-041 is also known as the Type-039A in the PLAN, which operates 28 of these subs.

The 13 submarines in the SSF should be enough to deny the Indian Navy unrestricted operations in the Arabian Sea.

In contrast, the Indian Navy operates 14 submarines: 1 Chakra (Akula II)-class; 9 Sindhughosh (Russian Kilo)-class and 4 Shishumar (German Type 209/1500)-class.

Pakistan will pay up to $5 billion for the eight S20s. The Pakistan Navy is upgrading its undersea warfare capabilities in the face of an equal upgrading being undertaken by India.




Read more: http://en.yibada.com/articles/16778...indian-s-numbers-purchase-8.htm#ixzz4Nb9Bhxpm

Very unlikely Pakistan Pakistan's submarine force will surpass Indian in near future. By the 8 submarine induct Pakistan have to retired the older Agusta70 sub so total number will be 11 in contrast India having 6-10 different class of submarine which will join the fleet around 2025/28 .

 

[DESERT FIGHTER]

New submarines are being called "Hangor Class" for PN's induction.

Love that name.. Hangor means Shark..

A tribute to PNS Hangor

HOW ?

Pakistan currently has

3 Augasta 90 Subs
2 Augusta 70 subs.


India currently has

9 Kilo Class subs
4 HDW subs
1 Akula class SSN
1 Arihant class SSBN.

In the pipeline for Pakistan

8 Chinese Yuan class SSKs to delivered by 2028

In the pipeline for India

6 Scorpene SSKs Class to delivered by 2022.
6 P-75 SSKs to delivered by 2030.
3 more expanded Arihant class SSBNs under construction in Vizag
1 Akula class SSN under construction in Russia (deal signed in Goa)
5 Indigenous SSNs based on Arihant design.

How many subs were destroyed? 2 i believe?

 

[$@rJen]

They will probably build Ballistic Missile Submarine also.

I'm very sure chinese and Pakistanis are already started that project

 

[DESERT FIGHTER]

You believe wrong.

One was destroyed in the torpedo explosion.

India had 10 Kilo class submarines, now there are 9.

Another one was badly damaged in a similiar accident.. wasnt it written off?

Anyways those subs are decades old and diving coffins like Migs and mirages of india and Pak..

 

[Khafee]

Sir what does that part mean!
Export version is downgraded? Can we get Original version or we are getting export version.

Calm down. Pakistan doesn't get anything downgraded from China, on the contrary sometimes more advance / upgraded than the ones in Chinese inventory. Example F7PG

 

[syed_yusuf]

HOW ?

Pakistan currently has

3 Augasta 90 Subs
2 Augusta 70 subs.


India currently has

9 Kilo Class subs
4 HDW subs
1 Akula class SSN
1 Arihant class SSBN.

In the pipeline for Pakistan

8 Chinese Yuan class SSKs to delivered by 2028

In the pipeline for India

6 Scorpene SSKs Class to delivered by 2022.
6 P-75 SSKs to delivered by 2030.
3 more expanded Arihant class SSBNs under construction in Vizag
1 Akula class SSN under construction in Russia (deal signed in Goa)
5 Indigenous SSNs based on Arihant design.

By Mid of next decade PN SUB fleet will be more like this

8 Chinese Yuan class SSKs with CM VLS
3 Augusta 90B Khalid class Subs

By Mid of next decade IN SUB fleet will be more like this
6 Scorpene SSKs Class
2-3 P-75 SSKs
~3 Arihant class SSBNs
Note: Kilo and HDW will be museum examples by then

all other wish list of having 5 SSBN for India is still a pipe dream. or PN having SSBN is also a pipe dream by mid of next decade. there is no proof of either of the country having any of the above.

 

[jha]

Our Submarine arm is depleted. More subs need to be inducted ASAP.

 

[$@rJen]

Another one was badly damaged in a similiar accident.. wasnt it written off?

Anyways those subs are decades old and diving coffins like Migs and mirages of india and Pak..

They're not older than urs... only one was damaged beyond repair... and the rest are fine... most of the kilos are upgraded or being upgraded... and india do have other German origin subs.. with 8 numbers of chinese subs calculating the numbers of subs equal to IN beyond laughter..

PN's number will be 8 chinese sun and 1 or 2 German and while will be forced to retire...just like we will be forced to retire our old german sub

By Mid of next decade PN SUB fleet will be more like this

8 Chinese Yuan class SSKs with CM VLS
3 Augusta 90B Khalid class Subs

By Mid of next decade IN SUB fleet will be more like this
6 Scorpene SSKs Class
2-3 P-75 SSKs
~3 Arihant class SSBNs
Note: Kilo and HDW will be museum examples by then

all other wish list of having 5 SSBN for India is still a pipe dream. or PN having SSBN is also a pipe dream by mid of next decade. there is no proof of either of the country having any of the above.

Lol kiddo... kilos are upgraded... they will serve long after ur german rusty ones get retired

 

[Areesh]

It would make sense, to name it after Pakistan Navy's only accomplishment in last 70 years.

Unfortunately INS Kirpan ran away or else there could have been more accomplishments.

http://www.dnaindia.com/india/report-ins-kirpan-turned-and-fled-1024726

Lol kiddo... kilos are upgraded... they will serve long after ur german rusty ones get retired

Before calling others kiddo learn the fact that there is no "rusty german" submarines in PN fleet.

All its conventional submarines are French and only 2 of them are a bit obsolete. The other 3 Augusta 90B are very much advanced and were built in 90's and 2000's unlike your kilos. Got it??

 

[Hassan Guy]

Unfortunately INS Kirpan ran away or else there could have been more accomplishments.

http://www.dnaindia.com/india/report-ins-kirpan-turned-and-fled-1024726



Before calling others kiddo learn the fact that there is no "rusty german" submarines in PN fleet.

All its conventional submarines are French and only 2 of them are a bit obsolete. The other 3 Augusta 90B are very much advanced and were built in 90's and 2000's unlike your kilos. Got it??

And are being modernized and upgraded right now.

 

[Areesh]

And are being modernized and upgraded right now.

True.

 

[Danish saleem]

Pakistan has finalized a deal to acquire eight Chinese-made S20 diesel-electric submarines for the Pakistan Navy, making this class of submarine the most numerous in the navy's Submarine Service Force (SSF) and giving the SSF numerical parity with its opposite number in India.

Under the deal with China, four of the ultra-quiet subs will be made at the Karachi Shipyard & Engineering Works (KSEW) while the remaining four will be built in China. Four of the subs will be delivered by 2023 with the remainder by 2028.

The eight S20s will be capable of firing anti-ship missiles (ASMs) while submerged, an advantage enjoyed by its three sister submarines in the Khalid-class and two in the Agosta-70 class. The addition of the eight S20s will bring to 13 the number of modern submarines in the SSF.

The Khalid class can fire French-made Exocet missiles while the Agosta 70A subs can unleash United States Harpoon missiles. The S20s will most likely fire Chinese-made ASMs.

The original Chinese version of the S20, the Type 041 Yuan-class, can fire YJ-8 ASMs. The export version of the YJ-8, the C-802, was used by Yemeni Houthi rebels to attack a U.S. Navy destroyer three times this month in the Red Sea. All the C-802s missed their target.

The Type-041's torpedo armament includes Yu-4 (SAET-50) passive homing and Yu-3 (SET-65E) active/passive homing torpedoes.

The Type-041 is the quietest submarine in the People's Liberation Army Navy Submarine Force. The Type-041 is also known as the Type-039A in the PLAN, which operates 28 of these subs.

The 13 submarines in the SSF should be enough to deny the Indian Navy unrestricted operations in the Arabian Sea.

In contrast, the Indian Navy operates 14 submarines: 1 Chakra (Akula II)-class; 9 Sindhughosh (Russian Kilo)-class and 4 Shishumar (German Type 209/1500)-class.

Pakistan will pay up to $5 billion for the eight S20s. The Pakistan Navy is upgrading its undersea warfare capabilities in the face of an equal upgrading being undertaken by India.




Read more: http://en.yibada.com/articles/16778...indian-s-numbers-purchase-8.htm#ixzz4Nb9Bhxpm

i dont think Agosta-70 will be in service till 2028, because these subs are already more than 30 years old.