Pakistan jets pound Mohmand, kill 25 militants

[humanfirst]

It is 4th or 5th time this month militants are crossing border from afghanistan and attacking pak posts.Are they afghan taliban..?

 

[Vassnti]

It is 4th or 5th time this month militants are crossing border from afghanistan and attacking pak posts.Are they afghan taliban..?

What makes you think they crossed the border?

 

[Roby]

RIP .

 

[Windjammer]

Press Release
No PR143/2011-ISPR Dated: June 19, 2011
Rawalpindi - June 19, 2011:
A joint operation of Pakistan Army/FC KPK/PAF to evict terrorists stronghold of “Walidad” in Mohmand Agency was launched on 18 June 2011. Ground operation was preceded with precise strikes by PAF Air Craft’s on terrorists bunkers and positions on “Walidad Top”. After an intense fight, troops were able to secure “Walidad Top” and surrounding areas of the mountain and managed to kill 25 terrorists, while remaining fled across the border. During the operation own 4 soldiers embraced shahadat and 8 were injured.

Presently troops are consolidating their positions in the area and search operation for remnants is in progress. The operation also had full support of people of Mohmand Agency, who expressed great satisfaction and happiness on this successful operation and reiterated their resolve to keep supporting Security Forces in their effort to defeat terrorists in the area.

 

[Luftwaffe]

What makes you think they crossed the border?

What makes you think they did not cross the border?

 

[Luftwaffe]

pakdefender....With US in 'peace talks' with the Taliban, is it any wonder that these attacks across the border from Afghanistan are on the rise ?

Just like that moron from CENTCOM , shows up here to patronize how 'we' are in this fight togther and 'we' have to fight a common 'enemy' , they are telling the afghans the same thing and paying them to do more attacks in Pakistan.

Also the UN had made its own list of 'good taliban , bad taliban'


This is what US planned and this is what they have done before during and at the start of "soviet-afghan war". These talibans/AQ have one important element of their survival "US Dollars and Weapons", give it to them and they will do all your job smoothly.

If US was solemn about eliminating terrorism they should have started with Intelligence gathering and Operations in saudi arab, uae, egypt, yemen, kuwait, qatar.

 

[Awesome]

I suspect the P.A. doesn't care much about the FC boys and simply considers them as something less than cannon fodder. When was the last time the FC was able to call for air or ground support from P.A. units? Or that, arriving too late, the P.A. followed up with an investigation and punitive expedition? Hasn't happened, has it?

That is quite a monstrous view of the PA and your opinion aside do you have any proof where they did call and it was rejected?

 

[TaimiKhan]

I suspect the P.A. doesn't care much about the FC boys and simply considers them as something less than cannon fodder. When was the last time the FC was able to call for air or ground support from P.A. units? Or that, arriving too late, the P.A. followed up with an investigation and punitive expedition? Hasn't happened, has it?

Solomon, seriously you need to get yourself checked up.

Anyway, there has been many instances where the PA soldiers on remote checkpoints getting attacked and no air support reaching them, even though the clash goes on for hours. Just read the most recent incident in South Waizristan, where 8 soldiers of the same PA which you are as per your usual theatrics accusing of something, are martyred after some 3-4 hour long clash. No air support reaches them. Lot of times, rather in the majority of times, no air support reaches to the PA troops under fire or even the FC guys.

Eight soldiers, 10 Taliban dead in Pakistan raid - Yahoo! News


But in joint operations, which take place many times, proper planning is done and before going to capture some specific height or mountain ridge, airstrikes in the form or fixed wing aircraft or helicopters are called in to soften up the place, before troops move in. Mountain warfare is very tough, one single sniper in a very well camouflaged position can halt an advance of hundreds of soldiers. Even 2-3 months ago, in this same Mohmand Agency, PA lost more then 15 troops, many others injured and some missing after some very accurate sniper fire and subsequent ambush by the militant, yet again no air strike came to their rescue, but yeah helicopters came to take the casualties.

Similarly in NWA, 1-2 years back, in the most deadly ambush on PA, in which some more then 40 soldiers being killed with the commanding officer, a captain and a Lt being martyred, the air support came after hours, that also after the huge figure of casualties having happened.

So, plzzz do some research before coming up with your accusations. In operations done by just FC with proper planning, they have always been supported by air strikes.

And muse and NWO, i feel sorry for you guys.

 

[muse]

Anyway, there has been many instances where the PA soldiers on remote checkpoints getting attacked and no air support reaching them, even though the clash goes on for hours. Just read the most recent incident in South Waizristan, where 8 soldiers of the same PA which you are as per your usual theatrics accusing of something, are martyred after some 3-4 hour long clash. No air support reaches them. Lot of times, rather in the majority of times, no air support reaches to the PA troops under fire or even the FC guys.

And this indicates that the army or PAF cares for these lesser mortals??

 

[SQ8]

And this indicates that the army or PAF cares for these lesser mortals??

No.. this indicates that air support isnt a pizza delivery service in our case.
Availability of assets.. weather.. all play a role.

and contrary to all that is circulating out here..
The FC has been on multiple occasions given Air support from Army cobra's...

 

[TaimiKhan]

And this indicates that the army or PAF cares for these lesser mortals??

No, it indicates that all are treated the same way, be it the PA guys getting attacked or the FC guys being attached.

Whenever FC convoy gets attached in the Khyber Agency, near the Bara sub-division, i see Cobras flying in from Tarbela and pounding the militant positions or giving protection to the rest of the convoy or evacuating contingents.

Come to CMH Peshawar and see how injured soldiers of FC & PA are lying in the same wards, getting the same treatment without any prejudice which you or others ares suggesting.

 

[Windjammer]

And this indicates that the army or PAF cares for these lesser mortals??

If air support could be delivered in every encounter with the enemy, then I guess no militants would be escaping across the border, at least that's the accusation usually mounted by the Americans in Afghanistan.

 

[muse]

Sp there's no prejudice when it comes to treating them in hospitals and it's a perception problem that FC seem to take it on the chin, while the army camps out on the East awaiting the uninterested Indian.

I don't understand why these rear guard positions, and perhaps it's a perception problem, but there you have it.

 

[SQ8]

Sp there's no prejudice when it comes to treating them in hospitals and it's a perception problem that FC seem to take it on the chin, while the army camps out on the East awaiting the uninterested Indian.

I don't understand why these rear guard positions, and perhaps it's a perception problem, but there you have it.

Incorrect..
its a division of workloads..
not a cannon fodder philosophy.
The FC gets certain fronts.. the army the other..
otherwise the SWAT op could also have been done by the FC..
instead we had SSG troops jumping ahead of the main force..
with FC bringing up the rear.

The army is used for offensive ops..
and once an area is cleared out for a time.. the FC is used to hold these locations.
when they get hit.. they get it holding positions..

 

[Mo12]

what planes was used in the operation?