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Pakistan receives $734.5 million under CSF
November 24, 2014 ALI HUSSAIN & TAHIR AMIN

Pakistan has received $734.5 million on the account of Coalition Support Fund (CSF) from the United States in the current fiscal year, and the Obama administration has requested Congress for authorisation of an additional $1 billion for FY15, according to officials at the Ministry of Finance and the US Embassy here.

An official of the US Embassy told Business Recorder that the United States government disbursed $363 million in CSF to Pakistan on September 29, in support of the US Operation Enduring Freedom (OEF) for the period of July-September 2013.

This payment is the latest in a series of reimbursements the US has made to a number of allies for expenses incurred in support of the Operation Enduring Freedom, the US official said.

"The CSF disbursement is a reimbursement for Pakistani support to OEF and is a positive sign of co-operation on our shared national security priorities," said the official.

To a question about the expected amount to be released in the near future on account of the pending CSF amount, the official said that Congress authorised reimbursements to Pakistan in the National Defence Authorisation Acts (NDAA) of up to $1.2 billion each for FY14 and FY13. The US Congress has not passed the FY15 NDAA and established CSF appropriations for Pakistan. However, the Obama administration requested $1 billion for Pakistan for FY15, she said.

She pointed out that Congress will need to authorise funding for a reimbursement program beyond FY15, adding "we continue discussions with Pakistan on such a program". According to the official, Pakistan has received over $12 billion from the United States in CSF reimbursements since 2001. Official sources at the Ministry of Finance told Business Recorder that the government was expecting to receive about $1.4 billion in the current fiscal year from the US under the head of CSF.

The country has already received two tranches totalling $725 million in the current financial year, said a senior official of the Finance Ministry, adding that the first tranche of $371.5 million was received on August 28, 2014, while the second tranche of $363 million was received on September 30, 2014.

According to the sources, one of the biggest concerns for Pakistan is to ensure the continuation of the CSF and the matter is currently under discussion between the concerned authorities of two countries. In the Economic Survey 2013-14, the incumbent government claimed that the war against terrorism and invasion of Afghanistan by the US have incurred losses of around $102.5 billion to Pakistan during past 13 years.

The survey added that the conflict and instability in Afghanistan in the aftermath of 9/11 attacks on the US and their regional implications had very negative repercussions for the years following the US invasion of Afghanistan which witnessed not only a huge influx of Afghan refugees across the border into Pakistan but also witnessed a sudden spike in the frequency and scale of terrorist attacks in Pakistan.
its means more new apartments and DHA will be built on the cost of more soldiers
 
its means more new apartments and DHA will be built on the cost of more soldiers
The Army/military does not get that money directly, the civilian government does. Even under Musharraf the majority of reimbursements for military expenses were redirected into 'budgetary support' for civilian programs.

Also, military officers pay towards the purchase/acquisition of plots throughout their career (please reference @Xeric posts with details on the process) so to argue that they are given 'free apartments' is not entirely accurate. In addition, DHA's are developed along commercial lines, and given private customer interest in these real estate developments, the military does not really need to siphon money from the budget to develop them.
 
The Army/military does not get that money directly, the civilian government does. Even under Musharraf the majority of reimbursements for military expenses were redirected into 'budgetary support' for civilian programs.

Also, military officers pay towards the purchase/acquisition of plots throughout their career (please reference @Xeric posts with details on the process) so to argue that they are given 'free apartments' is not entirely accurate. In addition, DHA's are developed along commercial lines, and given private customer interest in these real estate developments, the military does not really need to siphon money from the budget to develop them.

Nothing is free in the armed forces, u pay for every thing......every thing is institunalised n done by the book. No one gets more than the other.....bloody civilians get their panties in a knot and hence the out burst.
 
The Army/military does not get that money directly, the civilian government does. Even under Musharraf the majority of reimbursements for military expenses were redirected into 'budgetary support' for civilian programs.

Also, military officers pay towards the purchase/acquisition of plots throughout their career (please reference @Xeric posts with details on the process) so to argue that they are given 'free apartments' is not entirely accurate. In addition, DHA's are developed along commercial lines, and given private customer interest in these real estate developments, the military does not really need to siphon money from the budget to develop them.
sach ko sunane ki himat rakha karo
 
Nothing is free in the armed forces, u pay for every thing......every thing is institunalised n done by the book. No one gets more than the other.....bloody civilians get their panties in a knot and hence the out burst.

The Civillians get their knots because while you do pay, you pay 1/10th of what a civilian would pay in the same situation.
That is downright theft if nothing else.
 
Nothing is free in the armed forces, u pay for every thing......every thing is institunalised n done by the book. No one gets more than the other.....bloody civilians get their panties in a knot and hence the out burst.

Would you care to post up the rates paid by Army Officers for these amenities and compare them to the rates for civilians?
 
Nothing is free in the armed forces, u pay for every thing......every thing is institunalised n done by the book. No one gets more than the other.....bloody civilians get their panties in a knot and hence the out burst.

DHA Golf and Country Club, Karachi, for membership I paid 15lakhs, Army officers paid Rs 30,000

Even though 80% of the revenue is generated through civilian members......golf aint cheap you know.
 
Discounts for employees of the state would be fair on Jams and Jellies as it is the same in India. Not on the scale it happens with every aspect of state property.

Why don't we wait for @Xeric to tell us why that is all proper due to patriotic reasons? :D
 
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Discounts for employees of the state would be fair on Jams and Jellies as it is the same in India. Not on the scale it happens with every aspect of state property.
OEM's offer "employee pricing" worth several thousand dollars at times - before arguing that "compensation for services in the form of discounts is excessive", we should probably define what constitutes "excessive".
 
Discounts for employees of the state would be fair on Jams and Jellies as it is the same in India. Not on the scale it happens with every aspect of state property.

I'm sure @Xeric and @Icarus would be able to tell us what kind of 'discounts' and 'freebies' they're getting.

So far as I know; if the Army can be accused of anything, its probably better management - No one stopped any other Ministry or Bureaucratic department for having their Employee Welfare schemes.
 
OEM's offer "employee pricing" worth several thousand dollars at times - before arguing that "compensation for services in the form of discounts is excessive", we should probably define what constitutes "excessive".

An important exersize that has never really been done or dared to be done by any state audit so far as I know.
 

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