Pakistan-Armenia Friction Has Intensified

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    Pakistan-Armenia Friction Has Intensified
    December 15, 2016 | Eduard Abrahamyan

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    The conflict between Armenia and Azerbaijan over the Karabakh province, which has simmered since the collapse of the Soviet Union, seems to have drawn Pakistan and India into the most violent and enduring rivalry in the South Caucasus. As Yerevan and Baku both endeavor to gain political and military allies, the Karabakh conflict has evolved from a regional to a global issue. Most recently, Pakistan and India, which are engaged in a similar conflict over Jammu and Kashmir, have seen their relations in the South Caucasus shaped by the Karabakh conflict.

    Armenia has reportedly vetoed Pakistan’s observer bid in the Russian-led Collective Security Treaty Organization (CSTO) Parliamentary Assembly, arguing that “Pakistan has refused to not only set diplomatic ties with Armenia, but also to formally recognize the latter as an independent state” (RFE-Armenia, November 24). In particular, Yerevan has made clear that it denied Islamabad’s bid as a CSTO observer due to the latter’s “staunch pro-Azerbaijani posture on the Nagorno-Karabakh conflict” (Sputnik-Armenia, November 24).

    Pakistan’s goal in getting involved with the CSTO stems from the Russia-Pakistan political and military rapprochement, which was underpinned by the first-ever joint military exercise conducted on Pakistani soil in late September (Russia Today, September 27). Subsequently, the Pakistani naval Alamgir class frigate visited Novorossiysk, one of Russia’s major naval bases in the Black Sea, in order to take part in joint maneuvers on December 8 (Regnum, December 8). While the bilateral relationship in the defense and security spheres is developing, more inclusive joint military drills between Russia and Pakistan are yet to be arranged in the coming year (Vzglyad, December 8).

    On the economic side, in June, the Pakistani leadership launched negotiations with the Russia-led Eurasian Economic Union (EEU), aimed at forging a free trade agreement between the two. However, given that Pakistan does not recognize the sovereignty of one of the EEU’s members, its attempt to bypass this problem while negotiating a trade deal with the EEU is fuelling resentment in Armenia (Panarmenian, June 8).

    Amid the emergent Russian-Pakistani détente, relations between Armenia and Pakistan are shifting toward a new stage of political antipathy, following the cordial alignment between Islamabad and Baku. In particular, multiple bilateral high-level visits in the last six years have elevated Islamabad-Baku relations to a strategic level, to the detriment of Armenia’s interests. During a visit to Baku in 2010, Pakistan’s Defense Secretary Syed Athar Ali discussed with Azerbaijan’s President Ilham Aliyev Islamabad’s intention to strengthen cooperation with Azerbaijan in the military sphere and the defense industry. In return, President Aliyev expressed gratitude to Pakistan for voting in the UN General Assembly in favor of “the resolution on the situation of the occupied Azerbaijani territories and for not recognizing Armenia in connection with the aggression against Azerbaijan” (Mediaforum, April 22, 2010). Since then, in light of multiple visits, the Pakistani side gradually amplified its anti-Armenian rhetoric (w00t?? :lol:), in an effort to express comprehensive solidarity with its South Caucasus ally.


    Most recently, during the unprecedented escalation of tensions along the Line of Contact in Karabakh in April, the Pakistani Foreign Ministry unequivocally backed Azerbaijan’s position by proposing military-technical and political support for Baku (Day.az, April 4). Furthermore, Azerbaijan’s Defense Minister Yavar Jamalov, during a meeting with Pakistan’s Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif in Islamabad, underscored that Azerbaijan was keen on purchasing military hardware from Pakistan (Report.az, April 26). Following the military parade in Yerevan on September 21, where Armenia showcased an Iskander-E short-range ballistic missile arsenal procured from Russia, the Azerbaijani media reported that Baku was holding negotiations with Islamabad to purchase offensive arms including “long-range ballistic missiles” (w00t?? :lol:) as well as JF-17 Thunder jets (Haqqin.az, November 2).

    On October 14, Pakistan’s Prime Minister Muhammad Nawaz Sharif paid a visit to Baku. At a joint press conference, President Aliyev confirmed the intention of the two sides to jointly manufacture advanced military equipment (APA, October 14). Commending Pakistan for “the official recognition of the Khojaly genocide,” President Aliyev noted that Baku seeks to sign deals on purchasing arms and military equipment from Pakistan, highlighting the plans for joint military training between the armed forces of the two countries (Haqqin.az, October 14). Meanwhile, Aliyev stated that Pakistan is an ally and a close partner, so that the two countries “enjoy full solidarity on Nagorno-Karabakh and Kashmir problems and demonstrate mutual support in these aspects” (Vesti.az, October 14). In return, the Pakistani official thanked Azerbaijan for consistent and staunch support over the Jammu and Kashmir issue, concluding that their foreign policy priorities should be further coordinated. The strategic ties of Baku and Islamabad reached the level of a comprehensive partnership, embodied in a joint action plan that includes enhancing Pakistan’s exports to Azerbaijan from $60 million to $500 million (APA, November 2).

    The Armenia-India relationship stands in stark contrast to the intensification of the Azerbaijani-Pakistani alliance. However, the coordinated efforts of Baku and Islamabad in international organizations, as well as developments in Pakistani-Russian relations, serve as a catalyst for Delhi and Yerevan to step up their bilateral ties in multiple spheres (News.am, December 5; Panarmenian, November 12). Armenia’s relations with India seem to be reinvigorated, as demonstrated by the meeting between the Secretary of Armenia’s National Security Council, Yuri Khachaturov, and India’s Ambassador Sangwan Yogeshwari on December 13. As reported, the two sides agreed to establish a solid groundwork to spur defense cooperation “in light of international and regional developments” (Razm.ifo, December 13).

    Prospective Pakistani involvement in the Russia-led CSTO and EEU appear to evoke a sense of concern in Yerevan, which fears that Pakistan may serve as a potential conduit for Azerbaijani influence within these organizations, at the expense of Armenia’s interests—although Azerbaijan does not participate in either of them. Meanwhile, the Russia-Pakistan political and military rapprochement and the emergence of strategic relations between Baku and Islamabad appear to be raising new challenges for Armenia within the CSTO and beyond. Seeking to draw Islamabad into its integration initiatives, Moscow could neglect Armenia’s interests, in an attempt to force Yerevan to abandon its principal position vis-à-vis Pakistan. Such a prospect is likely to deepen disagreements between Russia and Armenia, eventually rendering Armenia irrelevant and sidelined from the decision-making process of the CSTO and EEU.

    Source: Jamestown

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    Comment: Pakistan maintains regular contact with the MTCR and voluntarily abides by MTCR’s export controls. The article verges on absurdity when it claims Pakistan plans to sell “long-range ballistic missiles”. Armenia is small country so Azerbaijan doesn't need MRBM. On the contrary,

    At the opening of ADEX 2016 hosted in Baku Minister of Defense Industry of Azerbaijan Yaver Jamalov informed that Azerbaijan holds negotiations with world’s leading companies with the propose to implement technologies in Azerbaijan for production of short-range ballistic missiles with operational range to 280 km.

    Source: Short-range ballistic missiles to be produced in Azerbaijan

    @Bilal Khan (Quwa) did an excellent analysis at Quwa, for those interested in the topic.

    Read: Armenia shows-off Iskander-E short-range ballistic missile (Quwa)
     
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  2. PaklovesTurkiye

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  3. Bilal Khan (Quwa)

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    Russia supplies arms to both Azerbaijan and Armenia. Not sure how much more Pakistan can hurt them...
     
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    Azeris had all the advantage in 1993-1994 conflict, don't know what went wrong for them in that war..the Armenians not just liberated nagarno karabakh but also six adjacent regions in that war.
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    I do not want to fuel a useless Pak v Ind theme here. After reading this it strengthens my perception that Pakistani leaders are irresistibly drawn into explicit military and diplomatic alliances - which are very easy to get into but a mess to get out of. Think SEATO, CENTO, war on terror, China, now overtures to Russia and then this report with its aspirations to the Collective Security Treaty Organization - a NATO-like org sponsored by Russia.

    History suggests these alliances are not very rewarding to their members.

    Anyway off topic the Armenians were the victims of a grotesque genocide at the hands of the Ottoman empire. Not very publicised since Hitler, Saddam and Pol Pot are the poster boys in this regard - but horrific nonetheless.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Armenian_Genocide
     
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    LOL Where is this place called Armenia?

    On a more serious note, Armenia cannot hold Pakistan hostage for having cordial relations with Azerbaijan. Armenia should know its place. It is barely a dot.
     
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    I am sorry, but what and where the hell is Armenia?
     
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    Pakistan is not an immediate member and it shouldnt get drawn in this war moreover azeris and armenians both r getting all the support from russia then they can ask russia to sort out this problem for them ...
     
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    Since we don't recognize it , it must belong to Turkey , another of those "rouge" areas that have no government causing conflict for neighbours like Turkey and Azerbijan

    Come to think of it even Turkey does not recognizes this Armenia

    Wow what a coincidece we now have 2 countries that don't recognize this mysterious country that no one knows where it exists


    • PKK
    • Armenia

    Just more of those proxy countries
     
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    Pakistan sent many volunteer militias during the Armenian-Azerbaijan war.

    gen·o·cide
    ˈjenəˌsīd/
    noun
    1. the deliberate killing of a large group of people, especially those of a particular ethnic group or nation.
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    Note 'deliberate'.

    Armenians on the frontier were openly supporting the Russians on the Caucasus Front. Ottomans feared other Armenians would follow suite, so they decided to forcefully move most of them to Levant. They never took into the account the logistics and resources it would take to carry out this. This led to a disaster and the Ottoman Government acknowledged this. Ottoman Soldiers transporting the Armenians, suffered just as much as they did. The Turkish Government has constantly apologized but rightly refuses to acknowledge it as a genocide.
     
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    Typical Hindu terrorist speaking. Fix the rape of your women before you cry jihad.
    We in pakistan side with every woman raped by you rss sexually deprived rapists
     
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    Pakistan should recognize Armenia...it is one of historically rich country with deep heritage affecting all parts of the world..
     
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    Do u know The history with Azerbaijan. They occupy Azeri land. Just like India occupies kashmir

    Azerbaijan want weapons from us and we will get drawn in
     
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    Is relevant.





     
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    We should recognize Armenia whilst still supporting the Azeri cause. Nothing wrong with recognizing their existence, even Turkey and Azerbaijan do this. However our support will always remain with Turkey and Azerbaijan.
     
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