PAF officials with the Rafale in France
Exactly. Sorry I forgot to mention, the following picture was actually taken in March 2007
Sohail: Your data on F-15's is wrong , 100 kills and no defeat, 1991 Desert Shield 4 F-15 were shot down, and one of them was a Birg Gen. General Horner was commanding and his deputy decided to do couple of missions and he got shot down.
And I would'nt worry about the IAF getting F-18s, Dude they can hardly fly Hawks
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REPLY TO JEFF.
Regardin ur 1st point it is quite clear to for me n u to understand wut IAF is goin to go for, i think ive clearly mentioned in the first post, read it again to clarify urself, i clearly meant SH it can be seen clearly.
Coming on to ur 2nd point, yes spares can be developed but in quantities mentioned by Boeing u jus cannot make spares in unlimited quantites n use them, there r always limits to the amounts of spares that u can make.
Reply to ur 3rd point, I'm sorry US aircraft aint like none other, u know this, Russian is full of old tech, n even European manfacturers lack behind US, because US is the trend setter!!!, has anyone come up with a 5th generation aircraft, even Russians r still in the designin phase of their 5th generation aircraft as far as Europeans are concerned dont know when they r goin to bring their 5th generation out possibly when US has already manufactured its 6th generation fighter!!!!
Reply to ur 4th point, jus tell me wut is the use of spendin $15 Billion to buy Sh when boeing has already stated that they r goin to take this SH into a 5th generation aircraft in the comin few years, by the time u get the technology after 2012, we would be lookin into 5th Generation fighters like F35's which I'm pretty sure PAF will go for cause our Turkish brothers have already commited themselves to a 100 F-35's. U can use this $15 billion big ticket purchase n improve ur failed Tejas fighter n Arjuns, that way u will get self reliance n u will not fill beoing's pockets who will simply make more advanced version of SH a 5th generation one.
Reply to ur 5th point, there was a guy who went to a pharmacy n he asked for a medicine, the guy said him only 1 packet of the medicine he was annoyed he increased his purchase from 1 packet to 20 packs at the same moment, it's not abut spending money but u have ur pockets full of cash at this time, u shuld spend money in the quatities u need to, jus don't close ur eyes n distribute money to lockheed or anyone else, wut is the use of buyin C-130's when u r makin ur own transport aircraft???? it is not how hard PAK hits India it is how good THEY hit them when they are in a fight with them that's why we survived 60 years of Independance with extremist always keepin an evil eye on our Country n willin to strike us anytime they get a chance.
Reply to ur 6th point, Indians need to learn not to teach US lessons as they r doin now, u think u r smart at sayin wut u said to US, US is a real ***** n it will kick India's *** when it needs to jus wait n see, can't u see wut it did to Russia, learn some lessons from history, US cannot see some one comin near to it's level so it eliminates that country if ur's try to do that which im pretty sure u will then ur country will learn a hard lesson next after Russia.
Reply to ur 7th point, hello wake up, they gave a green signal for the export of AESA not TOT AESA they wuld never give this tech to anyone, by the way can u provide me with a source that they have allowed indians to manufacture AESA in their country. U talk abut economical prosperous countru wut was ur dear friend Russia when it was broken by Bin Laden into pieces, it was a super power, so jus don't sink in this scenario that if u have a strong economy US will not keep an evil eye on u. US strategy is they will dry all the water from the river, then when u have no choice left to drink from u will beg for the water US has, get my point. Goin the US way, Russia will not be happy!!!!
Reply to ur 8th, 9th n 10th points, please clearly specify wut u mean by ur 8th point, I think india shuld learn lesson that not only PAF's F-16 spares were banned but even Turkey's F-16's spares were banned as one of the forum members mentioned it earlier, so get my point US doesn't give $hit as to who anyone is they will ban spares when they need to. Jus wonderin how will India have good experience in dealin with black markets, it has no need to, don't u think.
Reply to ur 11th n 12th point, o really old myth that India will not go for extra 74 when their squadrons strength has dramatically fallen, how will u bring ur sqaudron strength bak to normal, by buyin more jets u jus can't bring in ur Tejas to fill the gap cause even it is no where near ready after Billions in R & D. U talk abut budget PAK budget is like a glacier u can only see $4.5 billion at the top but they spend more than this, one of the members stated in his post that PAK has already crossed it allocated budget, so do u think our budget is wut we say to the world, NO!!!!! jus dont think we cant afford Patriot's, if PAF thinks it needs them they will get them no matter wut!!!! n we r not unbalancin the the balance of power in the region it is u who r doin that!!!!! wut we do is just a reply to wut u do!!!!!
Reply to ur 13th, 14th n 15th points, PAF has always operated lower number of jets to ur 750 we operate 450 approximately so IF we buy 3 squadrons i think its fine because we have our JF-17 comin up with Western goodies on it so we don't need to purchase expensive aircraft we will build the aircraft at home n buy weapons from abroad. PAF already operates a 2 engine fighter as i said IF they feel the need of goin this way they will no matter wut!!!!! Thank's for wishin me best of luck for my exams, it's my second year finals
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if you would have red wiki it was stated over there that Brahmos arming project was taking difficulties due to enormus weight of this missile and MKIs would also be there for upgrades package testing prior to induction in MKI fleet???
