PAF can counter India’s new war doctrine, says air chief

[Windjammer]

a lot of stupid remarks going on here.

while the PAF chief has made this statement, he does not elaborate the blueprint at to how he will achieve this . the fact is even 10 yrs down they line PAF will not have fighters in substantial numbers to counter the IAF. but may be they have something they are not sharing with us.

Surely you don't expect him to disclose PAF's war plans, tactics and strategy to the open media.
The disparity in quantity has always been the case vis-a-vis IAF, but PAF's own doctrine of defensive offence ensured it held more than it's own, and with changing scenarios, you can be sure it's done all it's home work.

 

[Dazzler]

The pain of PAF is,

To intercept IAF attack teams on bombing mission on their assets, like air fields.

Counter IAF close air support teams to help PA

Close air support for PA and fight if attacked by IAF again.

Fight with IN jets on naval front apart from anti ship missions.

All the above will happen mostly in Pak air space, then they can think about entering Indian air space for a strategic strike missions.

Do not assume things you have no idea about mate. Just discuss things that are relevant to the thread. There is a lot going on at the moment in terms of new inductions and the whole strategy is being revamped. Just a hint.

 

[Donatello]

There are three categories most mentioned and taught at Air war college.

Defensive-defensive operations,
Offensive-Defensive operations,
and offensive-offensive operations,
These are tactical stances that depend on the situation in war.

What I mentioned are strategic objectives.

Hello Oscar,

PAF's role will depend on the situation. It must go all offensive to neutralize the Indian Naval threat. It must go offensive with extensive A2G roles for advancing Indian Army. However, it can keep a defensive-defensive role for the airspace...to fend off IAF.

In the past, Pakistan was severely limited by strategic and tactical weapons.....as it's didn't have any. Now we have the cruise missiles...which can strike enemy positions deep. We can use those and the H series glide weapons to take out enemy airfields. I'd say, we do a pre-emptive strike...to strike the enemy while it is still on ground...akin to the Israeli strategy.

 

[Avatar]

PAF needs to create it's own new doctrine which emphasizes on also dealing with threats other than India, simply because the probability exists.

After the next 10-15 years it will be increasingly harder for PAF to still try to compete with IAF if Pakistani economy does not improve consistently. The competition will be even harder for PN since the Navy is generally given less preference than the air force for some reason.

However, the way PAF is currently managing funds and cutting costs just to be able to do it's job is worthy of notice. Personally I feel that JF-17's are being banked upon with too much optimism but they are still better than what they are replacing and excellent vfm. I dont think Pakistan has to worry about any air or sea war in the coming decades if it has a sincere stance on eliminating extremism that is spilling over to India.

 

[Dazzler]

I find it amusing how some Indian members jump in to derail many threads and trend has caught some pace in recent months. The point is, if you cannot discuss things in a positive manner than why bother?

Coming back to the topic, Both Air forces are seeing a revamp in terms of new inductions and what not so the Doctrines are being revised, tweaked whatever may be necessary. The PAF chief spoke in that context where we today have the technology and means to deliver the punch which we never had before whereas the IAF had them since 90s, such as a BVR capability, enhanced 4th gen aircraft along with refuelers for extended range missions and lastly, the inclusion of AWACS. This is not the PAF of the lost decade anymore and IAF will have to think many times to tackle this force because in terms of overall capability, both AFs are equal until the 5th Gen steps in.

 

[Dazzler]

Can you care to elaborate how both Airforces are equal ??? beats me !!!!

cant help you with that, suit your self

 

[illusion8]

But naturally PAF will form plans to counter the doctrine and IAF will plan something else to which PAF will have a counter strategy. The PAF is quite a competent force and will have its own strategies planned out. if any Air force cannot find solutions to an adversary's plans then it might as well wind up.

 

[soul hacker]

Dear indian members--------> currently pakistan on leading edge, we have F16 BLK 52 with 120-c Amraam (WAR PROVEN) >>>> THN SU 30MKI so chill

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cant help you with that, suit your self

lalite ye bache ki hahaha

 

[Nitin Goyal]

Dear indian members--------> currently pakistan on leading edge, we have F16 BLK 52 with 120-c Amraam (WAR PROVEN) >>>> THN SU 30MKI so chill

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lalite ye bache ki hahaha

how many F-16 blk 52 u have ?

 

[Irfan Baloch]

But naturally PAF will form plans to counter the doctrine and IAF will plan something else to which PAF will have a counter strategy. The PAF is quite a competent force and will have its own strategies planned out. if any Air force cannot find solutions to an adversary's plans then it might as well wind up.

very well put
and what else do you expect from an Air force chief? he will definitely instill confidence and talk about strength, high moral and training etc.

 

[soul hacker]

how many F-16 blk 52 u have ?

YOU DON'T KNOW BETA PITTA KA PATA HONA CHAHIEA NA, YE TO BURI BAAT HAI

 

[Ammyy]

I find it amusing how some Indian members jump in to derail many threads and trend has caught some pace in recent months. The point is, if you cannot discuss things in a positive manner than why bother?

Coming back to the topic, Both Air forces are seeing a revamp in terms of new inductions and what not so the Doctrines are being revised, tweaked whatever may be necessary. The PAF chief spoke in that context where we today have the technology and means to deliver the punch which we never had before whereas the IAF had them since 90s, such as a BVR capability, enhanced 4th gen aircraft along with refuelers for extended range missions and lastly, the inclusion of AWACS. This is not the PAF of the lost decade anymore and IAF will have to think many times to tackle this force because in terms of overall capability, both AFs are equal until the 5th Gen steps in.

Lets leave every thing aside and prove highlighted part in a positive manner ..

 

[Dazzler]

Lets leave every thing aside and prove highlighted part in a positive manner ..

What area do you think IAF has an edge over PAF as of today In terms of technology can you single out any of it? Is it aircraft? radar, avionics or jammers or BVR, AWACS or AARs? the thing is there is a parity between the two AFs as of now. IF you have anything to add to the list, go on.

 

[Rank]

I am pretty sure PAF will counter... i am damn sure about this...

PAF F16s BLK 52 along with J10B (if AESA) along with some other J11 or anything will enough to counter Rafale, SU30MKI...

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What area do you think IAF has an edge over PAF as of today In terms of technology can you single out any of it? Is it aircraft? radar, avionics or jammers or BVR, AWACS or AARs? the thing is there is a parity between the two AFs as of now. IF you have anything to add to the list, go on.

IMO yes... SU30 MKI (in numbers especially radar coverage), Phalcon (in Technology)

 

[gubbi]

What area do you think IAF has an edge over PAF as of today In terms of technology can you single out any of it? Is it aircraft? radar, avionics or jammers or BVR, AWACS or AARs? the thing is there is a parity between the two AFs as of now. IF you have anything to add to the list, go on.

Ahem, how about all of the above? Oh and yes, numbers and according to the "CSD" the advantage of picking and choosing the airspaces of our liking, not to mention capability to open another front anywhere the "CSD" wishes. How do you counter that?