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By REUTERS


NEW DELHI/ISLAMABAD: When Indian Prime Minister Narendra Modi met top aides to prepare last week's annual Independence Day address, some senior bureaucrats warned him against mentioning Baluchistan.

Referring to Baluchistan in such a prominent speech would be a highly unusual move bound to ratchet up tensions between the nuclear-armed neighbours more used to trading barbs over Indian-occupied Kashmir, the cause of two of their three wars.

According to a senior official at the meeting in early August, the more hawkish politicians in the room, angered by what they saw as Pakistan's recent trouble-making in held Kashmir, thought differently, and so did Modi.

By siding with the hawks, and including Baluchistan in his address, Modi signalled a more muscular approach towards Pakistan.

That dims prospects of bringing the bitter rivals closer together to reduce economic pain and the risk of more violence, an issue that will be high on U.S. Secretary of State John Kerry's agenda when he lands in New Delhi on Monday for a three-day visit.

"The bureaucrats suggested that talking about Baluchistan is a good idea but may be the Independence Day speech was not a good platform for it," said the official, who spoke on condition of anonymity because of the meeting's sensitivity.

Defence Minister Manohar Parrikar "rejected these ideas", while Home Minister Rajnath Singh "supported him (Parrikar) by saying we should do everything to silence Pakistan", this official said.

India's Ministry for External Affairs declined to comment on the debate about Modi's speech. His office, and the defence and home ministries, did not respond to requests for comment.

Speaking from the ramparts of the 17th-century Red Fort in Old Delhi on Aug. 15, Modi thanked the Baluch people for their support after a number of separatist leaders published videos praising him for acknowledging their cause previously.

He also lashed out at supporters of "terrorism", in a more familiar broadside against India's old foe.

CROSSING THE RED LINE

Pakistan has seized on Modi's speech as evidence that India has a hand in a decades-long Baluch separatist campaign, in which insurgents in the resource-rich yet impoverished region have launched sporadic attacks and demanded independence. India denies the charge.

A senior foreign ministry official in Islamabad said Modi had "crossed the red line".

Indian officials said Modi's speech was designed to remind the world about alleged human rights abuses by Pakistani forces in Baluchistan, just as Pakistan accuses India of abusing civilians in the disputed region of Kashmir during recent unrest.

But outside Modi's entourage, questions are being asked about what strategic reward, if any, India can hope to gain by raising the geopolitical stakes.

"Politically, it's much less useful in terms of Pakistan using this as evidence of Indian meddling. It gives them ammunition," said Daniel Markey, a South Asia expert at Johns Hopkins University in Washington, referring to Modi's mention of Baluchistan.

But he added: "There is a strategic utility in looking a little unhinged, in sending that message."

A New Delhi-based diplomat from a major power with traditionally close ties to India said it will only escalate tension.

DETERIORATING RELATIONS

Relations between India and Pakistan have deteriorated since the killing of a separatist leader in Indian-held Kashmir on July 8 sparked the worst violence in the disputed territory in six years.

At least 66 protesters and two security personnel have been killed and thousands wounded on both sides, according to official state figures.

India blames Pakistan for failing to stop militants crossing the heavily militarised de facto border between them and attacking Indian security forces. Pakistan denies this.

Two senior Indian officials said Modi had become frustrated with Pakistan's latest attempt to draw wide international attention to the Indian-occupied Kashmir question and the current clampdown, and to take the matter to the United Nations.

"Dealing with militancy is our internal issue and we will not tolerate any other country's interference," said one of the officials, from Modi's nationalist ruling party, who is closely involved in regional policy.

At the August meeting, Parrikar, the defence minister, also said that by raising Baluchistan, Modi would be highlighting China's role in unrest in the region, said the official present.

The reference to China reflects Indian unease at Beijing's backing of a $46 billion trade corridor running through land in northeast Pakistan that New Delhi claims, onward through Baluchistan to the port of Gwadar on the Arabian Sea coast.

Some of the Baluch separatist leaders who praised Modi before his address worry that their battle for a homeland will become a political football between the South Asian neighbours.

"If India's support is just a reaction to the politics and to Kashmir, then it could damage the political struggle," said Geneva-based Baloch Republican Party leader Brahamdagh Bugti.

He said New Delhi had rejected his application for Indian asylum in 2007.
 
and then they say india and indians are obsessed & Paranoid by pakistan :sarcastic:

Well the articles which i mentioned has indian sources too...... Every news paper had one of 2 articles on a simple statement by Modi...... Agreed that this happened for the first time, but i guess it has been given too much attention....
 
Well the articles which i mentioned has indian sources too...... Every news paper had one of 2 articles on a simple statement by Modi...... Agreed that this happened for the first time, but i guess it has been given too much attention....
since NaMo is PM of india his every move is laible to scrutiny by indian media and tax payer but why do pakistanies keep making one thread after another about india , its people or polocies or things related to it ?
 
Nothing more than an attempt to deflect attention away from IOK......
 
Offcourse you guys are obsessed with Pakistan. Who started this shit? Answer: Your chai wala terrorist PM. Now when your mass murderer Pm started it, we will make sure to finish it for better. :buba_phone:
oh man im so scared :haha:
 
Modi goaded Pakistan in deliberate yet risky move
Home / World / Modi goaded Pakistan in deliberate yet risky move
By REUTERS


NEW DELHI/ISLAMABAD: When Indian Prime Minister Narendra Modi met top aides to prepare last week's annual Independence Day address, some senior bureaucrats warned him against mentioning Baluchistan.

Referring to Baluchistan in such a prominent speech would be a highly unusual move bound to ratchet up tensions between the nuclear-armed neighbours more used to trading barbs over Indian-occupied Kashmir, the cause of two of their three wars.

According to a senior official at the meeting in early August, the more hawkish politicians in the room, angered by what they saw as Pakistan's recent trouble-making in held Kashmir, thought differently, and so did Modi.

By siding with the hawks, and including Baluchistan in his address, Modi signalled a more muscular approach towards Pakistan.

That dims prospects of bringing the bitter rivals closer together to reduce economic pain and the risk of more violence, an issue that will be high on U.S. Secretary of State John Kerry's agenda when he lands in New Delhi on Monday for a three-day visit.

"The bureaucrats suggested that talking about Baluchistan is a good idea but may be the Independence Day speech was not a good platform for it," said the official, who spoke on condition of anonymity because of the meeting's sensitivity.

Defence Minister Manohar Parrikar "rejected these ideas", while Home Minister Rajnath Singh "supported him (Parrikar) by saying we should do everything to silence Pakistan", this official said.

India's Ministry for External Affairs declined to comment on the debate about Modi's speech. His office, and the defence and home ministries, did not respond to requests for comment.

Speaking from the ramparts of the 17th-century Red Fort in Old Delhi on Aug. 15, Modi thanked the Baluch people for their support after a number of separatist leaders published videos praising him for acknowledging their cause previously.

He also lashed out at supporters of "terrorism", in a more familiar broadside against India's old foe.

CROSSING THE RED LINE

Pakistan has seized on Modi's speech as evidence that India has a hand in a decades-long Baluch separatist campaign, in which insurgents in the resource-rich yet impoverished region have launched sporadic attacks and demanded independence. India denies the charge.

A senior foreign ministry official in Islamabad said Modi had "crossed the red line".

Indian officials said Modi's speech was designed to remind the world about alleged human rights abuses by Pakistani forces in Baluchistan, just as Pakistan accuses India of abusing civilians in the disputed region of Kashmir during recent unrest.

But outside Modi's entourage, questions are being asked about what strategic reward, if any, India can hope to gain by raising the geopolitical stakes.

"Politically, it's much less useful in terms of Pakistan using this as evidence of Indian meddling. It gives them ammunition," said Daniel Markey, a South Asia expert at Johns Hopkins University in Washington, referring to Modi's mention of Baluchistan.

But he added: "There is a strategic utility in looking a little unhinged, in sending that message."

A New Delhi-based diplomat from a major power with traditionally close ties to India said it will only escalate tension.

DETERIORATING RELATIONS

Relations between India and Pakistan have deteriorated since the killing of a separatist leader in Indian-held Kashmir on July 8 sparked the worst violence in the disputed territory in six years.

At least 66 protesters and two security personnel have been killed and thousands wounded on both sides, according to official state figures.

India blames Pakistan for failing to stop militants crossing the heavily militarised de facto border between them and attacking Indian security forces. Pakistan denies this.

Two senior Indian officials said Modi had become frustrated with Pakistan's latest attempt to draw wide international attention to the Indian-occupied Kashmir question and the current clampdown, and to take the matter to the United Nations.

"Dealing with militancy is our internal issue and we will not tolerate any other country's interference," said one of the officials, from Modi's nationalist ruling party, who is closely involved in regional policy.

At the August meeting, Parrikar, the defence minister, also said that by raising Baluchistan, Modi would be highlighting China's role in unrest in the region, said the official present.

The reference to China reflects Indian unease at Beijing's backing of a $46 billion trade corridor running through land in northeast Pakistan that New Delhi claims, onward through Baluchistan to the port of Gwadar on the Arabian Sea coast.

Some of the Baluch separatist leaders who praised Modi before his address worry that their battle for a homeland will become a political football between the South Asian neighbours.

"If India's support is just a reaction to the politics and to Kashmir, then it could damage the political struggle," said Geneva-based Baloch Republican Party leader Brahamdagh Bugti.

He said New Delhi had rejected his application for Indian asylum in 2007.
yeh cheez
India has converted Baloch rebellion into proxy war
plus baluchistan is not contested by anyone
Let Indians celebrate they are going to pat their own forehead in near future by raising balochistan
it is a gain for pakistan
including GB and AJK will automatically highlight IOK
of course it is going to oust diplomatic relations
what pakistan needs to do is to sit back and dont make any hasty move
let modi take as many U-turns he want
camel is gonna sit in our backyard
that is what Modi's independence speech has assured
 
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Imagine the outlash of indians, if Nawaz sharif mentioned Khalistan at a major address...
well that was the whole point why NaMo did it in the first place .... hit your enemy or its sentiments where it hurts more keep dreaming but we wont give kashmir to anyone at any cost want it come and take it by force if you have it :tup: :sarcastic:
 
since NaMo is PM of india his every move is laible to scrutiny by indian media and tax payer but why do pakistanies keep making one thread after another about india , its people or polocies or things related to it ?

I guess some one raised a valid point in this thread..... How will we feel if NS raise khalistan or any other insurgency during his independence day speech......How will arnab and gang react to it????
 
I guess some one raised a valid point in this thread..... How will we feel if NS raise khalistan or any other insurgency during his independence day speech......How will arnab and gang react to it????
well tell me does it really matter in todays world as to what NS has to say he and all Pakistani establishment and there media stooges have been raising Kashmir & Khalistan on every forum they could manage for last so many years ... what did happen other than a few funny media TV shows which most of the people cant remeber after couple of days ? ? ? ?
 
well tell me does it really matter in todays world as to what NS has to say he and all Pakistani establishment and there media stooges have been raising Kashmir & Khalistan on every forum they could manage for last so many years ... what did happen other than a few funny media TV shows which most of the people cant remeber after couple of days ? ? ? ?

I agree those hulla bullas have not got them any tangible results..... Should we follow the same route?
 

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