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Christian Wienberg
November 14, 2018, 7:41 PM GMT+8

Maersk CEO on Rising Freight Rates, Profit Forecast, Divestments

Maersk CEO Soren Skou says profitability and freigh rates are rising.

The man running the world’s largest container-shipping company says he has access to data that shows Donald Trump has so far failed to wean the U.S. off Chinese imports.

Soren Skou, the chief executive of A.P. Moller-Maersk A/S, says Chinese exports to the U.S. actually grew 5-10 percent last quarter. Meanwhile, U.S. exports to China fell by 25-30 percent.

“It’s an ironic development,” Skou told reporters in Copenhagen on Wednesday. “But after Trump has turned up the volume, the U.S. has only increased their imports from China even more.”

There are two reasons behind the development, Skou said.

Firstly, the U.S. economy is doing well so consumers there have more money to spend on imports, he said. Secondly, a lot of the really big U.S. companies are hoarding Chinese imports to buy as much as possible before tariffs kick in, he said.

“When we talk to our customers, we hear from many of them that they want to bring in a lot of goods before the end of the year,” Skou said.

Maersk transports about a fifth of the world’s seaborne manufactured goods, so the company is in a unique position to gauge changes in global trade flows. Given Maersk’s reliance on free trade, Skou hasn’t shied away from criticizing Trump’s tariffs in the past.

Read more: Tariffs Will Hurt U.S. Much More Than Rest of World, Maersk Says

Part of the problem is that Trump is fighting an “asymmetric” battle, because China has a lot more clout than the U.S. when it comes to telling corporations how to act, Skou said.

“Donald Trump can’t tell Nike, Walmart and The Home Depot that they can’t import from China,” he said. “So they will continue to import and will work on solutions and they may be hit a bit on their margins.”

“Meanwhile, the Chinese state-controlled companies don’t need many signals from Beijing to lower their imports from the U.S.,” Skou said.

Read more: Maersk Raises Lower End of Forecast Range as Sales Pick Up

The Maersk CEO also warned that China is having an easier time finding substitutes for U.S. products than the U.S. is in replacing Chinese imports.

“The large U.S. importers aren’t considering building new factories in the U.S.,” he said. “What they are considering is whether they can buy in Vietnam, Bangladesh or India.”

According to Skou, that should leave Trump with little choice but to strike a deal with China, which he says may come “within the next quarters.”

But even if there’s a trade deal between China and the U.S., Skou says Maersk will prepare for lower trans-pacific trade next year.

“There will be a price to pay for container lines in 2019,” he said. “What we plan for now, is that we have to take out a lot of capacity on trans-Pacific trade next year. There will be a high level of inventory build-up which needs to be brought down again and that will affect volumes.”
 
Actually the purpose of the trade war is to save USA by destroying China.

Not to save USA by improving the economy and leave China in the dust.

USA is already quite good. It's just, China is unstoppable growing fast, that is the problem.
 
Going by the flurry of articles, its obvious the US-China trade war has benefitted the Chinese in a big way. Makes you wonder, why doesn't China up the ante and force the US to further increase the tariffs. :what:
 
Going by the flurry of articles, its obvious the US-China trade war has benefitted the Chinese in a big way. Makes you wonder, why doesn't China up the ante and force the US to further increase the tariffs. :what:



Bro the bankers, globalist billionaires and hedgefunds are all pushing such news to get Trump to give up the tariffs. These fukkers operate on their own terms and have their own relationships with the Chinese gov't. Trump and Peter Navarro are the right guys for the job..
 
Bro the bankers, globalist billionaires and hedgefunds are all pushing such news to get Trump to give up the tariffs. These fukkers operate on their own terms and have their own relationships with the Chinese gov't. Trump and Peter Navarro are the right guys for the job..

I was being sarcastic of course :lol:

When the Chinese propaganda machine starts pumping out articles on how awesome the US-China trade war has been for their exports, you know its hurting them!
 
Going by the flurry of articles, its obvious the US-China trade war has benefitted the Chinese in a big way. Makes you wonder, why doesn't China up the ante and force the US to further increase the tariffs. :what:

LOL how much more can we "up the ante"? Donald Trump has already said he is going to tariff ALL Chinese imports. ALL of them.

Do you think we should have done what India did when they were hit by US steel and aluminium tariffs (of which only Australia and Argentina have exemptions)? I.e. Bend over and meekly accept it? Which didn't help the Indian Rupee ironically, which collapsed to a new record low of around 75 anyway.

You are just showing them that they can tariff you for free whenever they feel like it. With zero repercussions.
 
This is actually quite a stupid article

1.) Maersk does not just do shipping between China and US, what they lose in the Chinese-US shipping route, they will earn back from other stimulant, just because trade war that does not mean shipping and trade is grind to a complete halt.

2.) Trade war only mean more tariff, it does not, or may not affect shipping volume. People seems to forget, trade exist because there is a supply and demand over the product between the 2 countries, having a trade war does not negate this need, you just have to pay more. My old economic professor use a quite interesting analogy to describe trade relation. "If I tax you 100% more to use the bathroom wastage management fee during World Cup final, you will still need to pay for the 100% tariff because you need to use the toilet then, and the toilet is in demand, it may be immoral to do so, but you cannot just hold it out just because you don't want to pay the wastage tariff during world cup final, you need to go because, well, you need to go."
 
LOL how much more can we "up the ante"? Donald Trump has already said he is going to tariff ALL Chinese imports. ALL of them.

Do you think we should have done what India did when they were hit by US steel and aluminium tariffs (of which only Australia and Argentina have exemptions)? I.e. Bend over and meekly accept it? Which didn't help the Indian Rupee ironically, which collapsed to a new record low of around 75 anyway.

You are just showing them that they can tariff you for free whenever they feel like it. With zero repercussions.

Well he said that he is "going to" but he hasn't yet. And going by the Chinese articles which are trying to prove just how much of a failure this tariff increase is, am sure China is just trying to egg Donald trump on! After all as per the chinese US tariff increase leads to increase in chinese exports :lol:
 
This is actually quite a stupid article

1.) Maersk does not just do shipping between China and US, what they lose in the Chinese-US shipping route, they will earn back from other stimulant, just because trade war that does not mean shipping and trade is grind to a complete halt.

2.) Trade war only mean more tariff, it does not, or may not affect shipping volume. People seems to forget, trade exist because there is a supply and demand over the product between the 2 countries, having a trade war does not negate this need, you just have to pay more. My old economic professor use a quite interesting analogy to describe trade relation. "If I tax you 100% more to use the bathroom wastage management fee during World Cup final, you will still need to pay for the 100% tariff because you need to use the toilet then, and the toilet is in demand, it may be immoral to do so, but you cannot just hold it out just because you don't want to pay the wastage tariff during world cup final, you need to go because, well, you need to go."
Ya the Maersk CEO's opinion is stupid. You should replace him.
 
Well he said that he is "going to" but he hasn't yet. And going by the Chinese articles which are trying to prove just how much of a failure this tariff increase in, am sure China is just trying to egg Donald trump on! After all as per the chinese US tariff increase leads to increase in chinese exports :lol:

LOL you realize that the trade data has to match on both sides right?

Is America making this up?

Bloomberg - U.S. Trade Gap Widens Most Since 2015; Record China Deficit
 
LOL you realize that the trade data has to match on both sides right?

Is America making this up?

Bloomberg - U.S. Trade Gap Widens Most Since 2015; Record China Deficit

Thee general perception the chinese have been trying to create is that US trade tariff is great for chinese economy and its export. And if that is the case, why is the chinese government ready for talks with the US over this issue? I mean shouldn't they be rooting for more tariffs and do things to further piss Trump off? I mean if there ever was a win win situation, it is this! :cheesy:
 
Thee general perception the chinese have been trying to create is that US trade tariff is great for chinese economy and its export. And if that is the case, why is the chinese government ready for talks with the US over this issue? I mean shouldn't they be rooting for more tariffs and do things to further piss Trump off? I mean if there ever was a win win situation, it is this! :cheesy:

"General perception", you mean like in your own head? :lol:

In a trade war, both sides lose. This is basic economics.

Where China gains is on the diplomatic front, and on the strategic front. After all, the US steel and aluminium tariffs hit the entire world, with only Australia and Argentina gaining exemptions.

Also a lot of Chinese members here would prefer to tone down the China-US economic relationship, even if it means short-term pain. It could be strategically useful in the long-run.
 

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