No, they love to see you Americans leave now, its just you Americans want to stay there to have your presence or dominance in Asia. China is no threat to Japanese they know it. When US leave, Japan will be free to develop nukes and they will have no fear of China, its America is in their way now, but they dont say it becos they know you people want to station troops there and they cant kick out US army.
Japan rushes to rearm with eye on 2027 - and China's Taiwan ambitions [biggest buildup since WW2]
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All they have to do is ask...and right now they aren't.
You can yap and yap and yap all you want about what you think is the reasoning of things but the bottom line is all they have to do is ask...and so far they haven't. It's as simple as that.
Saying they need nuclear weapons to get us to leave is just a silly excuse you use to placate yourself in frustration as to how come the US troops are still there. Besides they likely can build a bomb if they really wanted to.
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They are just too afraid that Ameica will refuse to their detriment. They will get nukes after US leaves.
Did America ask for Japanese permission when you start to station troops there in 1945 ？ You think now US need Japanese permission for US to stay there. Dont be silly.
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LOL! Are you saying Asians are all weak-kneed people?
Hey, dont be hypocrite, who has guns in their soil, why dont you ask the Germans same question why you are still in Germany, dont you think they want you American out of their land at heart ? A ten years old can understand the argument.
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We basically already did.
Apparently because they want us. They weren’t happy when Trump wanted to reduce troop levels. This is likely the same reaction Japan has.
Merkel allies criticize Trump decision to cut U.S. troops in Germany
'Regrettable': Germany reacts to Trump plan to withdraw US troops | Germany | The Guardian
Reduction of 9,500 personnel criticised by German right and welcomed by left
‘Regrettable’: Germany reacts to Trump plan to withdraw US troops
They just pretend that they want Americans to stay there, if all Americans going to withdraw from their land instead of the mere not so sincere symbolic of 9000 troops, I am sure they will more than welcome it. Already, the left wing population in Germany welcome US proposal to withdraw, its only the conservatives who are appeared to be unhapppy.We basically already did.
Apparently because they want us. They weren’t happy when Trump wanted to reduce troop levels. This is likely the same reaction Japan has.
Merkel allies criticize Trump decision to cut U.S. troops in Germany
'Regrettable': Germany reacts to Trump plan to withdraw US troops | Germany | The Guardian
Reduction of 9,500 personnel criticised by German right and welcomed by leftamp.theguardian.com
‘Regrettable’: Germany reacts to Trump plan to withdraw US troops
Biden has already stopped the withdraw of 9000 troops from Germany if you dont know. So, all the talk of withdraw are just for show.
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You know you ask what the Germans would say..and I post what they are saying and now you'd don't want to hear the answer....
You: Please ask the Germans how they feel about US troops:
Me: Okay, here it is:
You: Well that answer isn't what I feel they should be saying..so then they are all obviously lying.
Me:
Thanks for falling into the trick or China. We purposely encourage Japan spend more money on military so that Japan will neglect social, economy and development when Japan economy are going into recession. That will result faster crumble of Japan economy.
Analysis: Japan rushes to rearm with eye on 2027 - and China's Taiwan ambitions
Between China's 20th Communist Party Congress, that began Sunday, and the next one in 2027, Japan will undertake its biggest arms buildup since World War Two in a race to deter Beijing from war in East Asia, according to Japanese government officials and security analysts.www.reuters.com
5th and 8th Air Wing of Japan Air Self-Defense Force's F-15 and F-2 fighters hold a joint military drill with U.S. Marine Aircraft Group 12's F-35B fighters off Japan's southernmost main island of Kyushu, Japan, in this handout picture taken by Japan Air Self-Defence Force and released by the Joint Staff Office of the Defense Ministry of Japan October 4, 2022. Joint Staff Office of the Defense Ministry of Japan/HANDOUT via REUTERS
Between China's 20th Communist Party Congress, that began Sunday, and the next one in 2027, Japan will undertake its biggest arms buildup since World War Two in a race to deter Beijing from war in East Asia, according to Japanese government officials and security analysts.
Japan identified China as its chief adversary in its 2019 defence white paper, worried that Beijing's flouting of international norms, pressure on Taiwan and rapid military modernisation posed a serious security threat. That anxiety has intensified since Russia invaded Ukraine, weakening Japanese public opposition to rearming, security experts say.
Japan's government "has the wind at its back and will use that to do whatever it can," said Takashi Kawakami, a professor at Takushoku University in Tokyo. By pointing to 2027 as the moment when East Asia's power balance may tip in China's favour, Japan's government can rally support for greater defence spending, he added.
In addition to being the next time Communist Party delegates gather in Beijing, 2027 is the next major milestone on China's military modernisation roadmap and the centennial of the founding of the People's Liberation Army. At a congressional hearing last year, U.S. Indo-Pacific commander Admiral Philip Davidson said that China's threat against Taiwan could "manifest" that year.
For Japan, losing Taiwan to mainland Chinese control could be a disaster because it would jeopardise key shipping lanes that supply nearly all Japan’s oil and many of the materials it uses for manufacturing. It would also give the Chinese navy unfettered access to the Western Pacific from bases on the island.
"There are different shades of opinion, but generally, government officials share the same view of the significance of 2027," said a senior Japanese government official involved in defence buildup plans.
"This has been discussed internally," he added, asking not to be identified because of the sensitivity of the issue.
China's foreign ministry said Japan was using China as a pretext for a military buildup.
"Political forces in Japan have repeatedly used China as an excuse to deliberately exaggerate regional tensions. In doing so, the Japanese side is only looking for excuses to strengthen its own military and expand its military," the ministry said in a written response to Reuters.
At the congress in Beijing, Chinese leader Xi Jinping called for accelerating China's plans to build a world-class military and said his country would never renounce the right to use force to resolve the Taiwan issue.
Japanese defence ministry officials did not immediately respond to a request for comment.
TAIWAN SCENARIO
Japan's delicate diplomatic and economic relations with its bigger neighbour mean it is unlikely to commit to directly defending Taiwan. But with Japan's nearest territory only about 150 kilometres (93 miles) from the island, it could be drawn into conflict with an adversary that spends more than four times as much on its military.
China could try to capture Japanese islands close to Taiwan to establish air defences and fend off any counter attack, said another Japanese government official involved in planning, who also asked not to be named because he is not authorised to talk to the media.
China lobbed missiles into waters less than 100 miles (160km) from those islands in August during exercises after a visit to Taiwan by U.S. House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, which Beijing slammed as American interference. read more
Japanese military bases, airports, seaports, and other logistical hubs could also be tempting targets for Chinese missile strikes because they would be staging grounds for U.S. forces.
In crafting its defence plans, Japan needs to consider a scenario in which Washington does not respond to a Chinese attack on Taiwan, said Yasuhiro Matsuda, an international politics professor at Tokyo University and former Ministry of Defence senior researcher.
"If Japan can strengthen its defence capability ... then China's calculation to attack U.S. forces on Japan will be quite different, the cost and risk of a Taiwan operation will be quite high," Matsuda said this month during an online discussion hosted by the Rand Corporation think tank.
ARMS RACE
Russia's invasion of Ukraine, which it calls a "special operation", has helped shift public opinion in Japan away from the postwar pacifism that has dominated defence policy for decades. read more
In an opinion poll published by public broadcaster NHK this month, 55% of 1,247 people surveyed said they supported increased defence spending, compared with 29% who opposed it. Of those backing a stronger military, 61% said Japan should pay for it with public spending cuts.
In July, Prime Minister Fumio Kishida won national upper house elections with a pledge to "substantially" increase defence spending. His ruling Liberal Democratic Party promised to double the military budget to about 10 trillion yen ($68 billion) within five years.
That extra money will pay for longer-range missiles - improved Mitsubishi Heavy Industries (MHI) (7011.T) Type 12s, Kongsberg (KOG.OL) Joint Strike Missiles and Lockheed Martin (LMT.N) Joint Air-to-Surface Standoff Missiles - that can strike distant warships and land targets in China or North Korea.
Big projects include a new jet fighter for deployment in the 2030s that will most likely be merged with Britain's proposed Tempest stealth plane into a programme led by MHI and BAE Systems (BAES.L). The splurge of defence spending should also benefit U.S. suppliers such as Lockheed, Boeing Co (BA.N) and Northrop Grumman Corp (NOC.N). read more
More immediately, it will help Japan increase stockpiles of spare parts and ammunition that its untested military would need to sustain any fight.
"We will need to give priority to things that we can deploy within five years," the first government official said.
Kishida will unveil details of military spending plans in December along with a revamped security strategy. That strategy is expected to give Japan a bigger regional security role alongside the United States, which has thousands of troops, hundreds of aircraft, and dozens of warships deployed in Japan.
Japan's focus on China is unlikely to waver, analysts say, even as its former top adversary, North Korea, is in the midst of a fresh cycle of missile tests, the latest on Friday, including the first flight over Japan since 2017. After the Chinese Communist Party congress, the Kim Jong Un regime is widely expected to follow up with a nuclear test. read more
Japan wants to let South Korea take the lead in tackling its belligerent northern neighbour, a senior Japanese Self Defense Force commander said, speaking anonymously because of the sensitivity of the matter.
"I don't see North Korea's actions leading to any significant change" to Japan's China focus," said Bonji Ohara, senior fellow at the Sasakawa Peace Foundation and a former military attache at Japan's embassy in China. North Korea's latest actions may even help solidify public support for it, he added.
Winning without firing first shot.
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Thanks for falling into the trick or China. We purposely encourage Japan spend more money on military so that Japan will neglect social, economy and development when Japan economy are going into recession. That will result faster crumble of Japan economy.
Winning without firing first shot.
Maybe this is the same cool trick where China kept the population in extreme poverty for decades while they spent money on nuclear weapons and their military.
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If US troops leave Japan, "China threat" will be automatically "neutralized", otherwise the "threat" is not all from China, more so from Russia and N.Korea. US is the root cause of the tension in this region.
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And China will never forget what Japan did and are willing to nuke Japan so Japan has to worry about them.
Thats why Japanese need to be treated by psychiatrists.
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