Is Pakistan moving towards a Civil Disobedience Movement ?

[AZADPAKISTAN2009]

There is no option to say NO in the poll?

I have added that option for the alternative view point

 

[Wood]

I have added that option for the alternative view point

Haha.. you've have added it in a way that no one will agree

Just put 'No, we'll be fine' as an option to be fair

 

[AZADPAKISTAN2009]

So all of the above countries that I mentioned are devoid of "honest" people?

As they say, Josh say nahi hosh say, my friend. There is a place for populist sloganeering and then there is this need for rational, cold logic. Here and now, it is in the interest of Pakistan and all of that which makes up Pakistan to preserve our institutions of import and to not bring them into further controversy.

The countries you mentioned do not have similarities with Pakistan
Pakistan has nuclear weapons so there is no external military threat


Afghanistan > Nation under war for 35 Years

Libya = People of Libya > Nation destroyed by foreign intervention and had suffered long Sanctions Their mistake they gave up nuclear weapon

Iraq = People of Iraq > Leader Got involved in 2 wars first with Iran and then with Kuwait

Yemen = People of Yemen > Old Dispute with Saudia over oil fields



Current Objective:
Have Elections on Time give People what they want


No Elections , then Civil Disobedience. Civil Disobedience has nothing to do with countries you mentioned, it is a 100% Civilian Movement

 

[Ghazwa-e-Hind]

Still there is time to mend mistakes and call for free & fair elections.

It wont be pleasant when 220 million Pakistanis come on streets demanding for it. By then it would be too late, elections wont matter, an entirely new system will emerge.

Keep in mind that the majority people of Pakistan have nothing to lose. especially the youth, we dont have baggages like expensive properties or bank balances.

 

[AZADPAKISTAN2009]

Well if People come to Street it will be unfortunate but that is the Path country is on , people should store medicine and food in preparation for at least 90 to 180 days

Ideal outcome is Elections are Announced in timely fashion in 30 days


Elected government shall decide their own policy for foreign affairs


What is not on Agenda for Civil Disobedience
a) No one cares about F16 , buy it sell it or auction it
b) No one cares about T-129 Engine
c) No one cares about Super Cobra
d) No one cares about foreign weapons

The issue is not weapons or none sense

The issue is simple , we want a Government by our Elections and who gets us best deals for our National Interest


I could care less if all F16 are grounded tomorrow

 

[Waterboy]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1517275269962338307

I feel like this anti American propaganda is blown out of proportions. Yes they are evil but they also control our economy unfortunately. I feel like people living abroad can easily shill bullshit because if civil disobedience happens underseas pakistani will suffer.

Most importantly this notion of we only need honest people is misguiding. We need competent people who can bring in legislation and change which will eventually set the system right. Even PTI government in the end dropped a landmine in form of fuel subsidy derailing the IMF program. So honest leaders were not so honest with Pakistan.

The way IK is being projected as a saviour and messiah is destabilizing the country. He can't be compared to jinnah or mandela. He is just a power hungry man who willing to make deals with the establishment again to be placed back.

Judiciary, army, police and civil servants no matter how courrpt or incompetent they are; they are our pillars to stability. So attacking them more and more will eventually destabilize pakistan.

Everyday we are losing soldiers but you're more concerned about shitty khan being placed back in power. If god forbids this civil disobedience occurs we'll have TTP, india, iran and taliban all of them ripping us apart. But what will you understand sitting comfortably and constantly shitting because khan isn't in power?

Even if elections occur will PTI accept the result? The way i see it elections will only be fair if PTI wins?

Every PTI supporter is polarised, filled with hate and without logic. People like you want khan on top just to satisfy your ego. You're indirectly instilling hatred and paving way for destabilizing pakistan by posting this shit.

 

[AZADPAKISTAN2009]

Negative

We do need internally

a) Elections , Honest Government , Honest People

b) National Interest Policy by Elected Government

c) Strong Government

d) Our Country's motto is Faith, Unity, Discipline
> Faith demands us to be honest
> Unity , we have already shown how United Pakistani are for Imran Khan
> Discipline demand us to be strong at face of adversity such as foreign
intervention (Speaker of National Assembly did his duty on April 2nd)



Issue at Border is Military internal matter, they should sort it out
I trust the Military to take care of business at border, this is just a planning failure at border

 

[Ghazwa-e-Hind]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1517275269962338307

I feel like this anti American propaganda is blown out of proportions. Yes they are evil but they also control our economy unfortunately. I feel like people living abroad can easily shill bullshit because if civil disobedience happens underseas pakistani will suffer.

Most importantly this notion of we only need honest people is misguiding. We need competent people who can bring in legislation and change which will eventually set the system right. Even PTI government in the end dropped a landmine in form of fuel subsidy derailing the IMF program. So honest leaders were not so honest with Pakistan.

The way IK is being projected as a saviour and messiah is destabilizing the country. He can't be compared to jinnah or mandela. He is just a power hungry man who willing to make deals with the establishment again to be placed back.

Judiciary, army, police and civil servants no matter how courrpt or incompetent they are; they are our pillars to stability. So attacking them more and more will eventually destabilize pakistan.

Everyday we are losing soldiers but you're more concerned about shitty khan being placed back in power. If god forbids this civil disobedience occurs we'll have TTP, india, iran and taliban all of them ripping us apart. But what will you understand sitting comfortably and constantly shitting because khan isn't in power?

Even if elections occur will PTI accept the result? The way i see it elections will only be fair if PTI wins?

Every PTI supporter is polarised, filled with hate and without logic. People like you want khan on top just to satisfy your ego. You're indirectly instilling hatred and paving way for destabilizing pakistan by posting this shit.

PTI is a reactionary movement.

It wouldnt have emerged if there was justice in Pakistan.

Pakistan was created for weflare of entire muslim ummat, not for just few families living under gated communities and enjoying lion's share of resources which are meant for 220 million civilians.

The IK is not a savior, but he is seen as someone who represents the anger, frustration due to injustice suffered by people in last 74 years.

The political engineering must end. Hybrid governments need to end permanantly. We cannot surrender our soverignty for F-16 and visas.

The demand of people is fair, simple and reasonable, call for general elections. With no rigging.

 

[AZADPAKISTAN2009]

Very good point had Pakistan's internal Institutes were not decaying in 80's the need for PTI would not have emerged

Justice and Welfare of People are two largest mandate for PTI and that is what people want

 

[Waterboy]

PTI is a reactionary movement.

It wouldnt have emerged if there was justice in Pakistan.

Pakistan was created for weflare of entire muslim ummat, not for just few families living under gated communities and enjoying lion's share of resources which are meant for 220 million civilians.

The IK is not a savior, but he is seen as someone who represents the anger, frustration due to injustice suffered by people in last 74 years.

The political engineering must end. Hybrid governments need to end permanantly. We cannot surrender our soverignty for F-16 and visas.

The demand of people is fair, simple and reasonable, call for general elections. With no rigging.

How will the people know the elections were fair?

According to PTI:
PTI shills have already rejected the foundings of NSC meeting.
You guys curse Bajwa.
Judiciary is corrupt.
Police is corrupt.
ECP according to khan is PMLN stooge.
Civil servants are corrupt and PMLN stooges.

What's the metric for fair and honest elections? The way i see it no one will accept the elections if khan fails.

This is what right wing populistic politics looks like. Everyone is like it's either PTI or civil disobedience and people are promoting it.

One word fascism is spreading....

 

[kingQamaR]

Our System is totally broken and we know it , and no amount of tampering or tinkering with it is going to stop corrupt elite. As we found out to our national embarrassment shame , our democratic government was toppled by a foreign agents with no bullet being shot. Done by hefty bribes paid to institutions by Americans and you think u can fix this!

 

[Ghazwa-e-Hind]

How will the people know the elections were fair?

According to PTI:
PTI shills have already rejected the foundings of NSC meeting.
You guys curse Bajwa.
Judiciary is corrupt.
Police is corrupt.
ECP according to khan is PMLN stooge.
Civil servants are corrupt and PMLN stooges.

What's the metric for fair and honest elections? The way i see it no one will accept the elections if khan fails.

This is what right wing populistic politics looks like. Everyone is like it's either PTI or civil disobedience and people are promoting it.

One word fascism is spreading....

You're just worried your wealth will be confiscated by west once Khan comes in power.

The words "horrible consequences" in the letter wasnt meant for Pakistanis, but the puppets/slaves residing in Pakistan

Poetic justice is taking place.

 

[AZADPAKISTAN2009]

Yes Pakistan will have election and we will fix it that is why Civil Disobedience movement is must if Elections are not announced in next 30 days

It is a simple proposition
Public's Demand is "Elections Now!"

No one is asking anything beyond that from Military you do you own thing as you always have done buy , Tanks , Ships , equipment , train soldiers etc.

But holding elections in 30 days is National Responsibility for Military in such circumstances


Otherwise Public will go on Vacation for 180 days if we need to

Civil Disobedience is simple "No Cooperation Movement !!!"

We all will go on long vacation like Supreme Court infact if they take perk vacation for 90 days we will go vacation 180 days

 

[Waterboy]

Strong Government

PTI was strong when it had the likes of:

Buzdar
Aleem khan
JKT
Faisal vawada
Sheikh rasheed
I can go on and on but you won't be able to reason because again polarised.

Justice and Welfare of People are two largest mandate for PTI and that is what people want

Yeah like PTI dispersed justice when TLP butchered 20 policemen and got regularised as a mainstream party.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1517388059897401344

PTI is also spreading misogyny, bigotry and massive polarisation spear headed through misinformation.

You're just worried your wealth will be confiscated by west once Khan comes in power.

The words "horrible consequences" in the letter wasnt meant for Pakistanis, but the puppets/slaves residing in Pakistan

Poetic justice is taking place.

Bruh i want have anything to eat or a safe place to say if country goes towards civil war.

Plus you didn't answer the question how will you determine if the elections are fair or not?

 

[Ghazwa-e-Hind]

1947 - Physical Independence

2022 - Start of Spiritual Independence