Iran versus Azerbaijan - which one is stronger?

[Foinikas]

The latest example is Armenia vs. Azeris war. Armenia didn't have anything to detect Azeris drones. Absolutely annihilated even though Armenian army was considered superior.

Superior in what sense though?

 

[HammerHead081]

Superior in what sense though?

Superior in the sense when the war was happening, even before it. Everyone said, even the azeris how actually competent and brutal are armenian soldiers. Its like saying how incompetent Saudis are despite their equipment in the similar sense how competent the armenian soldiers are. Kind of like India vs Pakistan where despite all odds Pakistan soldiers still keeping India at bay despite being heavily outnumbered in both equipment and manpower.

 

[Foinikas]

Superior in the sense when the war was happening, even before it. Everyone said, even the azeris how actually competent and brutal are armenian soldiers. Its like saying how incompetent Saudis are despite their equipment in the similar sense how competent the armenian soldiers are. Kind of like India vs Pakistan where despite all odds Pakistan soldiers still keeping India at bay despite being heavily outnumbered in both equipment and manpower.

But the Azeris had the numerical and technological advantage. The problem was that Pashinyan betrayed NKR,he did little and the Russians also abandoned them because of Pashinyan. I agree that the Armenians are skilled fighters of course.

 

[Asfandyar Bhittani]

No it's not just a saber-rattling. under Israelis plan, Azerbaijan had to cut Iran-Armenia border, we will never allow that.
Also Iran will not tolerate the presence of Israelis on its borders, the same way things happened in Persian gulf and Arbil.

"Not allow"? I don't remember anyone asking the Iranians for their permission. Do you think Turkey is going to allow you to walk into Baku? Or do you think NATO is going to allow you to attack Turkey? Attacking a country that has not transgressed into your border is not going to be easy to justify by pointing to the presence of Israeli ghosts.

Mark this post. Iranians are going to do nothing.

 

[Dariush the Great]

"Not allow"? I don't remember anyone asking the Iranians for their permission. Do you think Turkey is going to allow you to walk into Baku? Or do you think NATO is going to allow you to attack Turkey? Attacking a country that has not transgressed into your border is not going to be easy to justify by pointing to the presence of Israeli ghosts.

Mark this post. Iranians are going to do nothing.

No need to mark your post because it is very obvious. As long as the stolen Iranian province does not provoke, all will be well. And by the looks of it, it is going that way. I can't imagine corrupt Russified Aliyov doing anything illegal after the Iranian wargames.

 

[Asfandyar Bhittani]

No need to mark your post because it is very obvious. As long as the stolen Iranian province does not provoke, all will be well. And by the looks of it, it is going that way. I can't imagine corrupt Russified Aliyov doing anything illegal after the Iranian wargames.

May want to ask the people of "stolen Iranian province" whether they consider themselves Turks or Persians. Also, Iran will be dissuaded from any misadventure by the Iranian soldiers of Azeri descent posting grey wolf hand signs on social media during those wargames.

Wars aren't zero-sum games. And both sides know that they have more to lose and nothing to gain. Fanboys will be disappointed when this spate of saber rattling ends.

 

[Imran Khan]

another stupid war front of ME and yet again muslim vs muslim what a sad day

 

[HammerHead081]

"Not allow"? I don't remember anyone asking the Iranians for their permission. Do you think Turkey is going to allow you to walk into Baku? Or do you think NATO is going to allow you to attack Turkey? Attacking a country that has not transgressed into your border is not going to be easy to justify by pointing to the presence of Israeli ghosts.

Mark this post. Iranians are going to do nothing.

Well they did take down a civilian airplane in reaction to USA killing their general. Hilarious to see these iranians and their sympathizers chest thumping.

 

[Muhammad Saftain Anjum]

muslim vs muslim

So called Muslims vs so called Muslims
To be honest.

Turks and iranians think Arabs are their worst enemies and vice versa while at the same time Turks and iranians are also enemies of each other .These three nations will waste their energies in fighting each other and then christians and jews will come and f#ck them hard.

Hell they don't know their actual enemies and busy in bullying each other.

Pakistan should never participate in their wars because at the end of day our enemy is only India.so save your energies to fight the actual enemy.

 

[SalarHaqq]

May want to ask the people of "stolen Iranian province" whether they consider themselves Turks or Persians. Also, Iran will be dissuaded from any misadventure by the Iranian soldiers of Azeri descent posting grey wolf hand signs on social media during those wargames.

It was said time and again that Iran sticks to international law and will therefore not launch any offensive wars indeed. However, the picture of a soldier on the internet, assuming it is authentic and not staged, is not going to have a dissuasive effect on Iran. Pan-Turkists represent a tiny fraction among Azari Iranians.

In general Azari Iranians tend to endorse the same views as these two folks, said to be soldiers of Republic of Azarbaijan, who are seen here pledging allegiance to Iran's Supreme Leader and burning the flags of the Baku regime's zionist and US allies:

 

[sha ah]

Iran's military is ranked number 16 in the world. Azerbaijan, number 64. There is no contest.

Iran's entire northern border stretches all along Nakhchivan and the south of eastern Azerbaijan. Iran also has direct access to the Caspian.

Turkey only has direct access to Nakhchivan, west Azerbaijan and not east Azerbaijan at all, including Baku. Also Turkey's only access to Nakhchivan is a small, winding, mountain road which leads into the enclave. It's basically a choke point for Turkey, a death trap.

Anyways I think that Aliyev has other things to be concerned about other than Iran. Just look at the Pandora papers.

Azerbaijan’s Ruling Aliyev Family and Their Associates Acquired Dozens of Prime London Properties Worth Nearly $700 Million - OCCRP

A vast network of offshore companies, administered by service provider Trident Trust and fronted by a small group of trusted cronies, helped the Aliyevs secretly own vast real estate holdings in th...

www.occrp.org

 

[Shams313]

another stupid ront of ME and yet again muslim vs muslim what a sad day

To be exact it's dickheads vs dickheads and for years they will continue be like dickhead.

Mark my words, it is combat proven statement

 

[Dariush the Great]

May want to ask the people of "stolen Iranian province" whether they consider themselves Turks or Persians. Also, Iran will be dissuaded from any misadventure by the Iranian soldiers of Azeri descent posting grey wolf hand signs on social media during those wargames.

Wars aren't zero-sum games. And both sides know that they have more to lose and nothing to gain. Fanboys will be disappointed when this spate of saber rattling ends.

Esfandiyar, your post shows that you do not understand the Caucasus and Western Asia ethnic and political affiliations.. Why not just stick to commentary on the Pakistani-Indian affairs? You are just inflaming the situation here and unwillingly making Pakistan and Pakistanis a potential threat to the eyes of millions of Iranians, Armenians and other peoples. Azari people are NOT Persians. They are a mix of Turkish, Iranian heritage.. with the Northern part of the Azarbaijan province (that got separated from Iranian mainland, you can read up the Treaty of Torkmanchay here https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Treaty_of_Turkmenchay) being more mixed as time passed. The Southern provinces have kept their largely Iranic-Turko heritage and were not affected by mass migration and cultural influence from the USSR. Southern provinces have always kept a distance from their Northern brothers (cousins by now) because of the forced separation and their allegiance with outsiders e.g. Russia,Israel, US etc

I can tell you that 5,6 pictures of so called hand signs out of a 20 million population does not assist you at all in understanding the dynamics of that region. But well, as a Pakistani, you have no background information on Iranian-Turkish affairs and no relevant cultural upbringing. Therefore, it is futile to try to explain it more in detail to you. The relevant parties Iran, Azarbaijan republic and Turkey however do know since we all are born and grown up with these affairs. I suggest Pakistanis to just keep it at the Islamic brotherhood level with Turkey and Azarbaijan and not meddle in Iranic, Turko cultural,ethnic issues.

And Aliyov understood the message. He has to tame the Israeli presence somewhat and not cross red lines regarding the borders. There is no need for a conflict. This is just a regular event between the modern Persian and Ottoman empires.

 

[mohsen]

"Not allow"? I don't remember anyone asking the Iranians for their permission. Do you think Turkey is going to allow you to walk into Baku? Or do you think NATO is going to allow you to attack Turkey? Attacking a country that has not transgressed into your border is not going to be easy to justify by pointing to the presence of Israeli ghosts.

Mark this post. Iranians are going to do nothing.

I don't remember asking anyone's opinion about targeting Israelis ships in Persian gulf, or attacking US/Israel joint intelligence base in Arbil. Actually Israelis drones have entered our airspace through their base in Azerbaijan several times already, one was bound for our nuclear site in Natanz, so legally we are allowed to terminate the threat, and in Armenia border which Azerbaijan is trying to cut, again Azerbaijan is the invading side, not Iran.

Turkey is the same country which has invaded and occupied Northern Syria and Iraq, so they are the last to lecture us anything.

Plan isn't to walk into Baku , but either Azerbaijan will change it's behavior, or they will receive their answer in their soil.

 

[doorstar]

Iran has influence in both Pakistan and Azerbaijan

according to an ex-irani diplomat Iran has maintained a well-armed revolutionary sleepers/assassins force of some 28,000 in Pakistan since 1979.