Indian Muslim scholars accuse LeT of conspiring against Islam

[Bombay]

Indian Muslim scholars accuse LeT of conspiring against Islam
Daily Times - Leading News Resource of Pakistan

From Daily Times, Pakistan.

Indian Ahl-e-Hadees scholars accused their ideological peers in Pakistan on Wednesday – the banned Lashkar-e-Tayyaba (LT) group and its parent body, Markaz Dawa al-Irshad – of being part of a global conspiracy against Islam. “We believe Hafiz Muhammad Saeed, the LeT chief, is a khawarij (rebel) and needs to be punished under the law,” declared Maulana Asghar Ali Imam Mehdi Salfi, secretary general of the Markazi Jamiat-e-Ahl-e-Hadees.

The Ahl-e-Hadees sect is often criticised for sharing its ideology with the LeT or Dawa al Irshad, headed by Hafiz Saeed. Clarifying his stance, Maulana Salfi said both Hafiz Saeed and the Taliban were part of an international conspiracy. He called these groups marauders and said their struggle was nowhere near jihad. He questioned why these groups did not oppress America when they had aligned with it to fight against the Soviet Union?

Claiming that a majority of Ahl-e-Hadees followers in Pakistan were also “up in arms” against Hafiz Saeed for taking over their mosques and establishments, Maulana Salfi said Islam does not endorse extremism. Maintaining that bomb blasts and suicide attacks were forbidden in Islam, he said there was no justification whatsoever for such acts of terrorism and wanton killings.

Quoting a mutual edict of 36 Ahl-e-Hadees scholars, Maulana Salfi said such acts of violence were more critical than robbery. He, however, said a full and fair investigation was imperative under judicial supervision to ensure that innocent people were not punished in the name of terrorism.

Maulana Salfi said the khawarij, who first emerged in the late seventh century AD, also observed all Islamic tenants strictly, but actually created waywardness and rebellion. “Islam does not believe in extremes,” he added.

Indian Muslims themselves declaring LeT and it's supporters as un-
Islamic. So much for the cause of LeT to fight for Indian Muslims..

 

[Iqbal_Brar]

LeT doesn't fight for Indian muslims.. they only fight for Pakistan.. they just want to pass the blame on to Indian muslims and make indian muslims look like the bad guys rather than Pakistan...

 

[TaimiKhan]

Why is it being posed in Pakistan's Current Affairs discussion ??

Do Indian members think Indian Muslims to be a problem of Pakistan that they are posting it in Pakistan's current affairs section ???

Keep the posts in their relevant sections.

 

[RobbieS]

^^^Trolling. Post reported. But I know it wont be deleted.

 

[Kabir Panthi]

Why is it being posed in Pakistan's Current Affairs discussion ??

Do Indian members think Indian Muslims to be a problem of Pakistan that they are posting it in Pakistan's current affairs section ???

Keep the posts in their relevant sections.

LeT is very much a Pakistani organization. So this has a lot to do with Pakistani current affairs.

But the "world affairs" section is also ok.

 

[RobbieS]

Why is it being posed in Pakistan's Current Affairs discussion ??

Do Indian members think Indian Muslims to be a problem of Pakistan that they are posting it in Pakistan's current affairs section ???

Keep the posts in their relevant sections.

Uhmmm...may be I am mistaken, but because LeT is a Pakistani organization?

 

[TaimiKhan]

LeT is very much a Pakistani organization. So this has a lot to do with Pakistani current affairs.

But the "world affairs" section is also ok.

The news is about some thing being issued by Indian Muslim scholars about LeT involvement in India, so it becomes an Indian issue, not a Pakistani issue. As they are talking about Indian Muslims, not Pakistani Muslims.

And as for LeT, it is no more a just Pakistani organizations, if Indian Muslims in India give these people support, refuge just like the Indian members involved in Mumbai incident, then it becomes more of an international or a Multi National Terrorist Organization.

So, this discussion has nothing to do with Pakistan, the Indian scholars issuing their decree is for the reason so that Indian members don't support LeT in their heinous crimes.

If no support is given from India, LeT will never set its foot on Indian soil, but till the day Indian Muslims even if one person gives them support, they will repeat incidents like 26/11.

 

[TaimiKhan]

They are primarily based in "Azad" Kashmir which is a part of India

Prove it that Azad Kashmir is part of India, because if it is then why don't we see an insurgency over there, the way we see in Indian occupied Kashmir. Leave insurgency, provide one mass demonstration taking place with Indian flags flying around with chants of India Zindabad, as I have plenty to show about such demonstrations taking place with Pakistani flags flying and chants of Pakistan Zindabad on the Indian occupied side of Kashmir.

And if LeT is only based in Azad Kashmir, then how come LeT can navigate all the way inside India, get ID cards, get logging, get paid for their traveling inside India in Indian Rupees, get weapons from people inside India.

Don't derail the threat or troll, keep the discussion to the Indian scholars and their decree, don;t make it into another Indian Occupied Kashmir discussion.

 

[EjazR]

This is a reiteration as this has been stated before. But this is focused more on LeT which "claim" to follow Ahle-Hadees school of thought.

The reality is that no traditional Islamic school supports the political Islamic ideology that LeT/AQ/Taliban e.t.c. subscribe too. And this includes Deobandi, Ahle-Hadees and even the much maligned salafi/wahabbi school of thought all oppose this political Islamic ideology.

The political Islam ideology came about only recently by individuals such as Syed Qutb and Maududi and got more perverted and mutated under Abdulla Azzam and finally OBL. Thanks to the soviet-afghan war and the training provided by countries involved in it, proponents of this ideology got the capability to wreck havoc around the world which we see happening today.

 

[EjazR]

'Hafiz Saeed, LeT working against Islam; must be punished'

Criticising the banned terror group Lashkar-e-Toiba (LeT) and its parent body, the Markaz Dawa al-Irshad, for working against the teachings of Islam, Indian Muslim scholars have advocated severe punishment for the Jamaat-ud-Daawa (JuD), which is considered to be the LeT’s front face, chief Hafeez Muhammad Saeed.

“We believe Hafiz Muhammad Saeed, the LeT chief, is a khawarij (rebel) and needs to be punished under the law,” secretary general of the Markazi Jamiat-e-Ahl-e-Hadees, Maulana Asghar Ali Imam Mehdi Salfi, said.

The Ahl-e-Hadees sect is often criticised for sharing its ideology with the LeT or Dawa-al-Irshad, which is headed by Saeed.

Clarifying his sect’s stance, Maulana Salfi said both Saeed and the Taliban were part of an international conspiracy against Islam.

Maulana Salfi said Islam does not endorse extremism, and said bomb blasts and suicide attacks were forbidden in Islam.

“There was no justification whatsoever for such acts of terrorism and wanton killings,” The Daily Times quoted Maulana Salfi, as saying.

“A majority of Ahl-e-Hadees followers in Pakistan are also up in arms against Saeed for taking over their mosques and other establishments,” he added.

 

[53fd]

Darul Uloom Deoband: The Indian Source of the Taliban | Kabul Center for Strategic Studies

The Pioneer :: Home : >> Roots of extremism lie in India

 

[53fd]

Katiyar demands ban on Darul Uloom Deoband - Express India

He added that the eighth report of the ARC, headed by senior Congress leader Veerapaa Moily, had stated in section 3.5.1 that “Mohammad Masood Azhar Alvi arrived in India with the task of working out a reconciliation between the cardres of the Harkat Mujahiddin and Harkat-ul Jehad Islami, whose parent organisations had merged to form the Harkat-ul-Ansar. His main objective was to liberate Kashmir from Indian rule and to establish Islamic rule in Kashmir. He also interacted extensively with the leading figures of the Deoband Ulema”.

These events had wide implications. In apparent revenge for the Babri mosque’s demolition, Mumbai mafia don Dawood Ibrahim planned bombings in Mumbai on 12 March 1993 that killed 257 people. Aided by criminal networks, terror organisations in Pakistan and Bangladesh – including Lashkar-e-Tayiba (LeT), the Jaysh-e-Mohammad and the Harkat-ul-Jihad-al-Islami – began recruiting Indian Muslim extremists to help carry out terror attacks in India, for the first time outside the state of Jammu & Kashmir. On 11 July 2006, bombs on trains in Mumbai killed 187 people. The attack was blamed on the Pakistan-based LeT, but some radicalised Indian Muslim supporters provided significant help.

International Institute for Strategic Studies Islamic extremism in India, page 2

Several Indian Muslim organisations have conducted jihadi terror campaigns:
Al-Umma, formed in the southern state of Kerala, has carried out terror acts in southern India. Leader Syed Ahmed Basha was sentenced to life imprisonment in 2007. The organisation was banned and is now believed defunct.
The long-standing Deendar Anjuman (‘religious association&#8217 Sufi sect became radicalised after the Babri mosque demolition. After a bombing campaign in 2000 (see table) it was banned.

The Students’ Islamic Movement of India (SIMI) was established in Uttar Pradesh. Becoming increasingly radicalised, it has repeatedly been banned over the past eight years. Its chief, Safdar Nagori, a 39-year-old mechanical- engineer-cum-journalist, was arrested in 2008. SIMI has had alleged links with the LeT. Before being banned, it was reported to have 400 full-time cadres and 20,000 members below the age of 30.
The Indian Mujahideen (IM) is the most active, claiming responsibility for several deadly bombings since 2006. After five near-simultaneous blasts at courts in Uttar Pradesh in November 2007, it sent an email to television stations protesting ‘violence against Muslims’, mentioning the destruction of the Babri mosque and the Gujarat riots. Following attacks in Jaipur in May 2008, it sent an email with a video of a bicycle used in a bombing. The message expressed anger against ‘infidel’ Hindus, said the group aimed to destroy India’s economic and social structure, and threatened Britons and Americans with suicide attacks.

IM operatives were thought to have provided logistical and operational support to the LeT in the 2006 Mumbai train bombings. Two IM members already in custody, Faheem Ansari and Sabauddin Ahmed, have also been charged with carrying out recon-naissance for, and providing maps to, the LeT for the November 2008 Mumbai attacks. IM members are typically young, educated, technologically savvy and ideologically driven. Most have no police record. The reported leader is 36-year-old Abdul Subhan Usman Qureshi, a soft-ware engineer. Co-founder Mohammed Sadiq Israr Ahmed Sheikh, a mechanic, was arrested in September 2008.

‘IM operatives were thought to have helped the LeT in the 2006 Mumbai train bombings and last year’s Mumbai attacks. Members are typically young, educated, technologically savvy and ideologically driven’

Although Indian Muslims appear disinclined to support pan-Islamic jihadist ideology, al-Qaeda appears to be paying greater attention to India in its public statements. In February 2009, a senior al-Qaeda commander based in Afghanistan, Mustapha Abu al-Yazid, threatened India with ‘Mumbai-style’ terrorism if ever it attacked Pakistan.

Several terror attacks abroad have involved Indians. Kafeel Ahmed, an engineer from Bangalore, died attempting to car-bomb Glasgow Airport in June 2007. Roshan Jamal Khan, a Mumbai businessman, was arrested in Barcelona in January 2008 and charged with being a member of a terror group and possessing explosives. His trial is expected soon. In 2006, Dhiren Barot, an Indian-born Briton who converted from Hinduism to Islam, was convicted in the UK of conspiracy to commit murder and sentenced to 30 years in prison. Haroon Rashid Aswat, a Briton of Indian origin, was a confidant of radical Finsbury Park mosque cleric Abu Hamza, and is in jail awaiting extradition to the United States for trial.

Security-Risks.com Caring for your Safety, Life & Security

New trends in terror emerge with arrest of suspects from Karnataka, terrorist camps in the state and spread of network targeting Mumbai and Goa.
Islamic Madrasas Association, Darul Uloom Deoband proscribes terrorism but also speaks against targeting youth from madrassa. Impact of the ban is however limited as Kashmiri terror groups dismiss it.
Uttar Pradesh claims arrest of terrorists involved in Rampur suicide blasts, investigations in progress.
Ban on SIMI extended for two more years. Likely to be challenged in the court. However activities and network indicates that ban is sustainable.
Need for building counter terror capabilities of the police in tourist spots such as Goa was underlined with indications of possible attacks during the busy winter tourist season.
Regional exclusivism by narrow chauvinists in Mumbai and popular anger against the Sixth Schedule and Subhash Gheishing in Darjeeling leads to bandhs, strikes and isolated cases of violence

 

[Roybot]

What is with you and digging up old dead threads

 

[53fd]

What is with you and digging up old dead threads

Just setting the record straight my friend, that's all.

 

[53fd]

India : The New Face Of Terror

Source: SOUTH ASIA SECURITY TRENDS – MARCH 2008

Security-Risks.com Caring for your Safety, Life & Security

Key Trends



New trends in terror emerge with arrest of suspects from Karnataka, terrorist camps in the state and spread of network targeting Mumbai and Goa.
Islamic Madrasas Association, Darul Uloom Deoband proscribes terrorism but also speaks against targeting youth from madrassa. Impact of the ban is however limited as Kashmiri terror groups dismiss it.
Uttar Pradesh claims arrest of terrorists involved in Rampur suicide blasts, investigations in progress.
Ban on SIMI extended for two more years. Likely to be challenged in the court. However activities and network indicates that ban is sustainable.
Need for building counter terror capabilities of the police in tourist spots such as Goa was underlined with indications of possible attacks during the busy winter tourist season.
Regional exclusivism by narrow chauvinists in Mumbai and popular anger against the Sixth Schedule and Subhash Gheishing in Darjeeling leads to bandhs, strikes and isolated cases of violence.


Trends in Terrorism



A number of new trends in terrorism were evident during the month across the country. Institutionalization of terrorism through formation of organizations such as the MITA in Bangalore, is perhaps the most dangerous. Though activists of the organization Karnataka and Uttar Pradesh emerged as new land marks on the terror vista. Apprehension of suspects involved in the Rampur suicide blast on 1 January 2008 was a pointer towards the same. Two youth were arrested in Karnataka allegedly commanders of the banned Students' Islamic Movement of India (SIMI) in the southern region. Asadullah Abubakar and Mohammad Ghouse who had undergone training in Pakistan Occupied Kashmir were planning to engineer blasts in the state and were well equipped with timers, explosives and wire. Later two training camps were tracked by the police in Karnataka, one in Dharwad and another in Uttara Kannada district. A software engineer, Mohammad Yahya Kamukutty was arrested in Bangalore for suspected terror links. A B.Tech graduate in Electrical Engineering, he was employed with GE software and was known to be a key SIMI activist. The police also uncovered the MITA during these investigations which is reportedly having members from SIMI. [Based on report by N D Shiva Kumar, Times of India, 28 February]

Six terrorists allegedly involved in the suicide attack on the CRPF camp in Rampur arrested by Uttar Pradesh police included Sabauddin and Pakistani citizens Abu Jar and Abu Sama alias Adeel from Lucknow. While Pakistani Faheem Ahmad Ansari alias Abu Jarar, and Mohammad Sharif and Jang Bahadur alias Baba (both from Rampur) were arrested from Rampur. Faheem Ansari is reported to have carried out reconnaissance in Mumbai for a possible terror strike, though surprisingly the Mumbai police did not probe Faheem after initial interrogation. In Jammu and Kashmir, Mudasir Yusuf Bhatt a CRPF constable was arrested for acting as a carrier for the Hizbul Mujahideen.

Newer targets such as Goa have also emerged. Goa is a popular terrorist resort in India in the winters and represents what could be said as a free and uninhibited society, thus it would be an ideal target for any fundamentalist organization. Goa is also near the Karnataka jungles where terror camps have been located. Building counter terror capacities both operational and intelligence in such tourist spots is thus essential. As a start a higher level of security in the area to prevent any untoward terrorist incident is called for.

The Central Government retained the ban on the Students Islamic Movement of India (SIMI) for another two years. The ban will continue till February 7, 2010. "The decision to re-impose the ban for two years has been taken in view of the fact that the group continues to indulge in unlawful activities," said the home ministry spokesperson Onkar Kedia. SIMI has been under ban since September 2001.

Major Bomb Blasts in India after 9/11 are as given below:-

Oct. 1, 2001 - Militants storm the Jammu and Kashmir state assembly complex, killing about 35 people.
Dec. 13 - 13 people, including five gunmen, killed in an attack on parliament in New Delhi.
Sept. 24, 2002 - Militants with guns and explosives attack the Akshardham temple in Gujarat, killing 31 people and wounding more than 80.
May 14 - Militants attack an army camp near Kashmir's winter capital, Jammu, killing more than 30, including wives and children of soldiers.
March 13, 2003 - A bomb attack on a commuter train in Mumbai kills 11 people.
Aug. 25 - Two almost simultaneous car bombs kill about 60 in Mumbai.
Aug. 15, 2004 - Bomb explodes in Assam, killing 16 people, mostly schoolchildren, and wounding dozens.
Oct. 29, 2005 - 66 people are killed when three blasts rip through markets in New Delhi.
March 7, 2006 - At least 15 people are killed and 60 wounded in three explosions in the pilgrimage city of Varanasi.
July 11 - 187 people are killed in seven bomb explosions at railway stations and on trains in Mumbai, blamed on Islamist militants.
Sept. 8 - At least 32 people are killed in a series of explosions, including one near a mosque, in Malegaon town, 260 km northeast of Mumbai.
Feb. 19, 2007 - Two bombs explode aboard a train bound from India to Pakistan, burning to death at least 66 passengers, most of them Pakistani citizens.
May 18, 2007 - A bomb explodes during Friday prayers at a historic mosque in Hyderabad, killing 11 worshippers. Police later shoot dead five people in clashes with hundreds of enraged Muslims who protest violently against the attack.
August 25, 2007 – Two bombs explode in Hyderabad, at Gokul Chat Bhandar and Lumbini Park killing 42 persons. (Based on reports in Reuters web site and confirmations)

Osama CDs in Patna – Bihar

CDs containing speeches by Osama Bin Laden in Arabic language with English sub titles were available in Patna , the capital of Bihar . The speeches urged Muslims to join the Jihad or holy war. CDs were also seen in rural pockets of Patna and adjoining Bhojpur. Two suspects in 11 July 2006 , Mumbai terror blasts are said to have been arrested from Madhubani in Bihar thereby indicating presence of fundamentalist elements in the state mired in poverty and underdevelopment.

The recovery of Osama Bin Laden’s CDs in Bihar is a serious issue which needs to be closely investigated. The influence of such propaganda in Bihar which has a sizeable Muslim population and is under developed can be considerable and adequate measures to check the spread are essential.