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Here's a piece by Soutik Biswas of the BBC on India's "distress migration":

Are millions of Indians being forced to leave their villages for cities and towns because there aren't enough jobs at home and farm incomes are drying up? Is this "distress migration" unprecedented in India's history?

Award-winning journalist P Sainath thinks so. Examining the latest census data, he finds that India's urban population has risen more (91 million more than in the 2001 census) than the rural population (90.6 million more than in the 2001 census). Nearly half the people in states like Tamil Nadu already live in urban settlements.

The last time, writes Mr Sainath, the rise in India's urban population exceeded the rise of the rural population was 90 years ago and reflected in the 1921 census. The decline in rural population then could be possibly linked to the 1918 flu pandemic that killed several million people.

This time around, Mr Sainath says, the increase in migration is driven by the "collapse of millions of livelihoods in agriculture and its related occupations". He writes that massive migrations "have gone hand-in-hand with a deepening agrarian crisis": more than 240,000 farmers, mostly broken by debt, committed suicide in India between 1995 and 2009.
'Despair-driven'

Mr Sainath has spent a lifetime reporting on distressed farmers and how the poor live in India. He admits that the census is not equipped to examine the complexity of migration in India. In a fast urbanising country, rising migration from villages to cities and towns is natural. Also, newer "urban areas" are being added all the time. The big picture is also not strikingly unusual. According to the census, 31.16% of Indians live in urban areas, up from 27.81% in 2001 - a rate which is actually significantly lower than the rate in many developing countries with similar income levels.

But, argues Mr Sainath, these "natural" factors which triggered migration from villages to cities have been valid in the earlier decades too when additions to the village population actually outstripped those to the cities. So why is the last decade throwing up a radically different result?...
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There may be other pressing questions to ponder. How does India cope with its increasing urban population? Its cities are choking under power cuts, scarcity of water and polluted air. Also the increase of new urban settlements with poor amenities and limited access to jobs could easily lead to massive social unrest among the migrants in the new "cities". Which could actually end up wrecking India's cities faster than its villages.


BBC News - Is India in the throes of 'distress migration'?
 
Here's a piece by Soutik Biswas of the BBC on India's "distress migration":

Are millions of Indians being forced to leave their villages for cities and towns because there aren't enough jobs at home and farm incomes are drying up? Is this "distress migration" unprecedented in India's history?

Award-winning journalist P Sainath thinks so. Examining the latest census data, he finds that India's urban population has risen more (91 million more than in the 2001 census) than the rural population (90.6 million more than in the 2001 census). Nearly half the people in states like Tamil Nadu already live in urban settlements.

The last time, writes Mr Sainath, the rise in India's urban population exceeded the rise of the rural population was 90 years ago and reflected in the 1921 census. The decline in rural population then could be possibly linked to the 1918 flu pandemic that killed several million people.

This time around, Mr Sainath says, the increase in migration is driven by the "collapse of millions of livelihoods in agriculture and its related occupations". He writes that massive migrations "have gone hand-in-hand with a deepening agrarian crisis": more than 240,000 farmers, mostly broken by debt, committed suicide in India between 1995 and 2009.
'Despair-driven'

Mr Sainath has spent a lifetime reporting on distressed farmers and how the poor live in India. He admits that the census is not equipped to examine the complexity of migration in India. In a fast urbanising country, rising migration from villages to cities and towns is natural. Also, newer "urban areas" are being added all the time. The big picture is also not strikingly unusual. According to the census, 31.16% of Indians live in urban areas, up from 27.81% in 2001 - a rate which is actually significantly lower than the rate in many developing countries with similar income levels.

But, argues Mr Sainath, these "natural" factors which triggered migration from villages to cities have been valid in the earlier decades too when additions to the village population actually outstripped those to the cities. So why is the last decade throwing up a radically different result?...
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There may be other pressing questions to ponder. How does India cope with its increasing urban population? Its cities are choking under power cuts, scarcity of water and polluted air. Also the increase of new urban settlements with poor amenities and limited access to jobs could easily lead to massive social unrest among the migrants in the new "cities". Which could actually end up wrecking India's cities faster than its villages.


BBC News - Is India in the throes of 'distress migration'?

you see when proven false . change the topic again . This is what i am talking about .

What a 'cop out' . :lol:
 
Those IITians are few in number for a nation of billion+, and almost all of the really successful ones have advanced degrees from US and Europe.

And no one deserves contempt more than those who lack the ability to respond in a civil manner with reasonable arguments and data.

As to your HDI brag, it's nothing to write home about for "Shining India" when it lags behind countries like Bangladesh and Pakistan on basics like life expectancy and lags behind Pakistan on education.

Pakistan ahead of India on human development indices: UN report - Hindustan Times

It is you who is bragging about Pakistan being better. You have to explain why it still lags and has always lagged India in HDI index.

It must be doing something even worse.

India has a long way to go. We know this and there has been great progress in the last 2 decades. The next two decades will see even greater progress.

Can you say the same about Pakistan?

As I said Pakistan is not in our league. You should only compare yourself to the first half in Af---.

There is no point in comparing to an economy an order of magnitude larger and growing several times faster.

Our country has sent a moon mission. That alone shows the difference between where the two of us are.
 
Indian per capita income is almost 30% greater than Pakistan as per all major sources: IMF, WB, CIA.

For a Pakistani to talk of Indian poverty can only be called funny. They are poorer and the difference is increasing with every passing day.
 
It is you who is bragging about Pakistan being better. You have to explain why it still lags and has always lagged India in HDI index.

It must be doing something even worse.

India has a long way to go. We know this and there has been great progress in the last 2 decades. The next two decades will see even greater progress.

Can you say the same about Pakistan?

As I said Pakistan is not in our league. You should only compare yourself to the first half in Af---.

There is no point in comparing to an economy an order of magnitude larger and growing several times faster.

Our country has sent a moon mission. That alone shows the difference between where the two of us are.

why shud they explain to us why their HDI is so poor......???
it is their ppl that they rule we shud mind our own business.......pakistan can do hell with their ppl...what's it to us...
we shud look at our own development......as u said...we have developed much in last 2 decades and will develop more in coming decades...we have a long way to go......no time for quarreling with the pakistanis.......china is running ahead, we must keep up.....
 
why shud they explain to us why their HDI is so poor......???
it is their ppl that they rule we shud mind our own business.......pakistan can do hell with their ppl...what's it to us...
we shud look at our own development......as u said...we have developed much in last 2 decades and will develop more in coming decades...we have a long way to go......no time for quarreling with the pakistanis.......china is running ahead, we must keep up.....

No Indian as much as mentioned Pakistan in this thread till this person came in.
 
It is you who is bragging about Pakistan being better. You have to explain why it still lags and has always lagged India in HDI index.

It must be doing something even worse.

India has a long way to go. We know this and there has been great progress in the last 2 decades. The next two decades will see even greater progress.

Can you say the same about Pakistan?

As I said Pakistan is not in our league. You should only compare yourself to the first half in Af---.

There is no point in comparing to an economy an order of magnitude larger and growing several times faster.

Our country has sent a moon mission. That alone shows the difference between where the two of us are.

Ok, let's talk about basics like nutrition, sanitation, health, education, etc.

1. Nutrition:

India is worse than Bangladesh and Pakistan when it comes to nourishment and is showing little improvement in the area despite big money being spent on it, says Planning Commission member Syeda Hameed. "There has been an enormous infusion of funds. But the National Family Health Survey
gives a different story on malnourishment in the country. We don't know, something is just not clicking," Hameed said.

Speaking at a conference on "Malnutrition an emergency: what it costs the nation", she said even Prime Minister Manmohan Singh during interactions with the Planning Commission has described malnourishment as the "blackest mark".

"I should not compare. But countries like Bangladesh, Pakistan and Sri Lanka are better," she said. The conference was organised Monday by the Confederation of Indian Industry and the Ministry of Development of Northeastern Region.

'India worse than Pakistan, Bangladesh on nourishment' - Hindustan Times

Sanitation:

India might be an emerging economic power, but it is way behind Pakistan, Bangladesh and even Afghanistan in providing basic sanitation facilities, a key reason behind the death of 2.1 million children under five in the country.Lizette Burgers, chief water and environment sanitation of the Unicef, Monday said India is making progress in providing sanitation but it lags behind most of the other countries in South Asia.

While a mere 14 percent of people in rural areas of the country - that account for 65 percent of its 1.1 billion population - had access to toilets in 1990, the number had gone up to 28 percent in 2006. In comparison, 33 percent rural Pakistanis had access to toilets in 1990 and it went up to an impressive 58 percent in 2006.

Similarly in Bangladesh, 36 percent of rural people have access to proper sanitation. The corresponding figures for Afghanistan and Sri Lanka were 30 percent and 86 percent respectively.

India trails Pakistan, Bangladesh in sanitation - Thaindian News

Health:

In the range of DALYs/1000 capita from 13 (lowest) to 289 (highest), WHO's latest data indicates that India is at 65 while Pakistan is slightly better at 58. In terms of total number of deaths per year from disease, India stands at 2.7 million deaths while Pakistani death toll is 318, 400 people. Among other South Asian nations, Afghanistan's DALYs/1000 is 255, Bangladesh 64 and Sri Lanka 61. By contrast, the DALYs/1000 figures are 14 for Singapore and 32 for China.

Looking at the situation in South Asia, it appears from the WHO data that Pakistan is doing a bit better than India in 12 out of 14 disease groups ranging from diarrhea to heart disease to intentional injuries, and it is equal for the remaining two (Malaria and Asthma).

Haq's Musings: Indians and Pakistanis Suffer Heavy Disease Burdens

Education:

Mean years of schooling in India is 4.4 years while in Pakistan and Bangladesh it is 4.9 and 4.8 years respectively.

Pakistan ahead of India on human development indices: UN report - Hindustan Times
 
Ok, let's talk about basics like nutrition, sanitation, health, education, etc.

No lets not please. This thread is about Indian economy(news and updates). We have derailed this thread as it is, so lets not any more.
 
Ok, let's talk about basics like nutrition, sanitation, health, education, etc.

1. Nutrition:

India is worse than Bangladesh and Pakistan when it comes to nourishment and is showing little improvement in the area despite big money being spent on it, says Planning Commission member Syeda Hameed. "There has been an enormous infusion of funds. But the National Family Health Survey
gives a different story on malnourishment in the country. We don't know, something is just not clicking," Hameed said.

Speaking at a conference on "Malnutrition an emergency: what it costs the nation", she said even Prime Minister Manmohan Singh during interactions with the Planning Commission has described malnourishment as the "blackest mark".

"I should not compare. But countries like Bangladesh, Pakistan and Sri Lanka are better," she said. The conference was organised Monday by the Confederation of Indian Industry and the Ministry of Development of Northeastern Region.

'India worse than Pakistan, Bangladesh on nourishment' - Hindustan Times

Sanitation:

India might be an emerging economic power, but it is way behind Pakistan, Bangladesh and even Afghanistan in providing basic sanitation facilities, a key reason behind the death of 2.1 million children under five in the country.Lizette Burgers, chief water and environment sanitation of the Unicef, Monday said India is making progress in providing sanitation but it lags behind most of the other countries in South Asia.

While a mere 14 percent of people in rural areas of the country - that account for 65 percent of its 1.1 billion population - had access to toilets in 1990, the number had gone up to 28 percent in 2006. In comparison, 33 percent rural Pakistanis had access to toilets in 1990 and it went up to an impressive 58 percent in 2006.

Similarly in Bangladesh, 36 percent of rural people have access to proper sanitation. The corresponding figures for Afghanistan and Sri Lanka were 30 percent and 86 percent respectively.

India trails Pakistan, Bangladesh in sanitation - Thaindian News

Health:

In the range of DALYs/1000 capita from 13 (lowest) to 289 (highest), WHO's latest data indicates that India is at 65 while Pakistan is slightly better at 58. In terms of total number of deaths per year from disease, India stands at 2.7 million deaths while Pakistani death toll is 318, 400 people. Among other South Asian nations, Afghanistan's DALYs/1000 is 255, Bangladesh 64 and Sri Lanka 61. By contrast, the DALYs/1000 figures are 14 for Singapore and 32 for China.

Looking at the situation in South Asia, it appears from the WHO data that Pakistan is doing a bit better than India in 12 out of 14 disease groups ranging from diarrhea to heart disease to intentional injuries, and it is equal for the remaining two (Malaria and Asthma).

Haq's Musings: Indians and Pakistanis Suffer Heavy Disease Burdens

Education:

Mean years of schooling in India is 4.4 years while in Pakistan and Bangladesh it is 4.9 and 4.8 years respectively.

Pakistan ahead of India on human development indices: UN report - Hindustan Times

keep u'r figures to yourself..........we r not interested to know what pakistan is doing and that too frm u..........this thread is for the discussion of indian economy........not pakistani education........
 
This is all that matters. ;)


So you are talking about gdp per capita(PPP) in terms of international dollars right? This is according to Sep 2011, World Economic Outlook Database.

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Report for Selected Countries and Subjects

2011- Pakistan-$2720.531
India----$3703.453


So in 2011, there is a gap of almost $1000 dollars, in 2014 it will be $1500 and in 2016 it will be $2000

Yep I think I would rather believe IMF's database than your blog.
 
Awww.. but still pakistan is poorer and growinh much slower than india . how sad .

Indian GDP per capita both in PPP and Nominla terms in higher than Pak .

Oh the desperation .

Not true!

In fact India is among the poorest nations in the world:

India%2BPoverty%2BNREGA.jpg


The latest World Bank data shows that India's poverty rate of 27.5%, based on India's current poverty line of $1.03 per person per day, is more than 10 percentage points higher than Pakistan's 17.2%. Assam (urban), Punjab and Himachal Pradesh are the only three Indian states with lower poverty rates than Pakistan's.

http://www-wds.worldbank.org/extern...d/PDF/574280PUB0Pers1351B0Extop0ID0186890.pdf
 
Ok fine, Pakistan is doing great. Point noted. Congratulations.

Can we ignore the troll and get back to the thread already...
 

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