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1000 for license production and around 600-700 direct purchase from russia
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I heard that 1000+ t90 deal was cancelled. Just look at OFB, they have stopped building Bhishm. If this deal is still on then they should be busy producing these t90 before FMBT arrives.
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The intial order for 700+400 still remains and Avadi is building I am sure. There were 1100 tanks to be made and in a latest report Rosoboronexport CEO said that they cant rule out additional T-90 orders. However the intial order for 1100 remains. Plus an additional 1000 will be locally made. Stopping T-90 with only 1100 plus is not ecnomically logical.
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T-90 Bhisma
I have asked this question many times that how many t90 IA is going to purchase other than the ones which are already in service ? But i have recieved many different answers.
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^^^ are the two above techs (Iron fist and train sims) serving with IA right now on T-90s? As I know both tech is going to be there for Arjun Mk.2 but is it part of the T-90 UPG?
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T90-UPG uses SAAB's APS while Arjun mk2 will use Iron Fist. I am not sure whether Iron Fist is already been integrated in mk2 but i doubt it considering the turret redesigning is still left. Arjun mk1 don't use Iron Fist but i think we might upgrade mk1 later.
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Only 620 t90 were on order. Other than this there was a proposal for license production of 1000 t90 but nothing happened except the first batch.
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Ministry rejection of chiefs age plea legally unsound: Army
New Delhi: In the first formal response to the controversy relating to its chief's age, the Indian Army Sunday said the defense ministry's ruling that General Vijay Kumar Singh's year of birth should be 1950 was based on records of the Military Secretary's branch, which had no jurisdictional authority on the matter.
An officer of the Additional Directorate General (Public Information) told IANS that despite the Adjutant General's branch, which is the custodian of records, writing to the Military Secretary' branch in earlier years, the latter had not corrected its records.
"In this case, the defense ministry has gone by what the Military Secretary branch at army headquarters has said.
"The custodian of records at army headquarters is the Adjutant General's branch and the Military Secretary's branch has no jurisdictional authority on this issue, as per regulations for the army and the charter given to each branch," the officer said.
"The confusion has occurred because the AG's branch has not been consulted," he added.
The officer also said that the government had in January 2008 sought an inquiry in the date of birth records of General V.K. Singh, when he was being considered for promotion as army commander.
But that probe was never conducted by the army, which was under the predecessor of the present chief, "as it would have punctured the claims of the then Military Secretary". General Deepak Kapoor was the army chief in January 2008.
"This confusion was further compounded because the Military Secretary's branch did not correct its records from those maintained by the Adjutant General, despite his branch writing to the Military Secretary in earlier years," the officer added.
General Singh had, in the middle of last year, sought a correction in the records with the Military Secretary's branch from May 10, 1950 to May 10, 1951. The matter became a controversy as the change in date of birth would provide the army chief, who is slated to retire from service by June 2012, an additional 10 months in service.
This would have upset the succession plans, which is by tradition based on seniority, of the world's second largest standing army.
If 1950 remains his year of birth, then the next in line for leading the 1.13-million-strong army is the present Eastern Army commander Lieutenant General Bikram Singh. If 1951 is agreed to, then the present Northern Army commander Lieutenant General K.T. Parnaik will be the next chief.
Also a set of queries under Right to Information Act on the age controversy were forwarded by the army headquarters to the defense ministry for a definitive answer on General Singh's age.
After seeking legal opinion from the law ministry, the defense ministry last month ruled that the date of birth of General Singh for all official purposes will be May 10, 1950.
However, the army chief's matriculation certificate, which is a valid legal document to fix date of birth, mentions 1951 as his year of birth.
"Acceptance and admission must be supported by valid documents, without which they have no value. The value of a matriculation certificate cannot be wished away," the official said.
New Delhi: In the first formal response to the controversy relating to its chief's age, the Indian Army Sunday said the defense ministry's ruling that General Vijay Kumar Singh's year of birth should be 1950 was based on records of the Military Secretary's branch, which had no jurisdictional authority on the matter.
An officer of the Additional Directorate General (Public Information) told IANS that despite the Adjutant General's branch, which is the custodian of records, writing to the Military Secretary' branch in earlier years, the latter had not corrected its records.
"In this case, the defense ministry has gone by what the Military Secretary branch at army headquarters has said.
"The custodian of records at army headquarters is the Adjutant General's branch and the Military Secretary's branch has no jurisdictional authority on this issue, as per regulations for the army and the charter given to each branch," the officer said.
"The confusion has occurred because the AG's branch has not been consulted," he added.
The officer also said that the government had in January 2008 sought an inquiry in the date of birth records of General V.K. Singh, when he was being considered for promotion as army commander.
But that probe was never conducted by the army, which was under the predecessor of the present chief, "as it would have punctured the claims of the then Military Secretary". General Deepak Kapoor was the army chief in January 2008.
"This confusion was further compounded because the Military Secretary's branch did not correct its records from those maintained by the Adjutant General, despite his branch writing to the Military Secretary in earlier years," the officer added.
General Singh had, in the middle of last year, sought a correction in the records with the Military Secretary's branch from May 10, 1950 to May 10, 1951. The matter became a controversy as the change in date of birth would provide the army chief, who is slated to retire from service by June 2012, an additional 10 months in service.
This would have upset the succession plans, which is by tradition based on seniority, of the world's second largest standing army.
If 1950 remains his year of birth, then the next in line for leading the 1.13-million-strong army is the present Eastern Army commander Lieutenant General Bikram Singh. If 1951 is agreed to, then the present Northern Army commander Lieutenant General K.T. Parnaik will be the next chief.
Also a set of queries under Right to Information Act on the age controversy were forwarded by the army headquarters to the defense ministry for a definitive answer on General Singh's age.
After seeking legal opinion from the law ministry, the defense ministry last month ruled that the date of birth of General Singh for all official purposes will be May 10, 1950.
However, the army chief's matriculation certificate, which is a valid legal document to fix date of birth, mentions 1951 as his year of birth.
"Acceptance and admission must be supported by valid documents, without which they have no value. The value of a matriculation certificate cannot be wished away," the official said.
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DefSec visits LOC in Kashmir
Srinagar: Defense Secretary Shashikant Sharma Monday visited the Line of Control (LOC) dividing Indian and Pakistani Kashmir and was briefed about the recent ceasefire violations and infiltration attempts from across the other side, a defense official said.
"Defense Secretary Shashikant Sharma today (Monday) visited the LOC in the Tangdhar sector. The defense secretary was accompanied by Lieutenant General A.S. Lamba, vice chief of army staff. The high-level delegation was briefed by the brigade commander on the current situation on the LOC, infiltration and ceasefire violations by Pakistan army," the defense spokesman said in a statement here.
"The delegation was given a demonstration of the anti-infiltration obstacle system and various other equipments deployed to foil the infiltration bids.
"A display of sophisticated equipment and war-like stores captured/ recovered from militants was also done for the visiting delegation. The delegation later interacted with the officers, JCOs and soldiers deployed in the area," the statement said.
During his two-day visit, the defense secretary was briefed on the security situation along the borders by Northern Army commander, Lieutenant General K.T. Parnaik and the Chinar Corps commander, Lieutenant General Syed Ata Hasnain.
Sharma also met Governor N.N. Vohra, and Chief Minister, Omar Abdullah during his maiden visit to the state after taking over as the defense secretary.
There has been an increase in infiltration bids into the Valley from across the LOC during the recent days. The Pakistan army has violated the bilateral ceasefire eight times during the last one week, according to defense officials.
Srinagar: Defense Secretary Shashikant Sharma Monday visited the Line of Control (LOC) dividing Indian and Pakistani Kashmir and was briefed about the recent ceasefire violations and infiltration attempts from across the other side, a defense official said.
"Defense Secretary Shashikant Sharma today (Monday) visited the LOC in the Tangdhar sector. The defense secretary was accompanied by Lieutenant General A.S. Lamba, vice chief of army staff. The high-level delegation was briefed by the brigade commander on the current situation on the LOC, infiltration and ceasefire violations by Pakistan army," the defense spokesman said in a statement here.
"The delegation was given a demonstration of the anti-infiltration obstacle system and various other equipments deployed to foil the infiltration bids.
"A display of sophisticated equipment and war-like stores captured/ recovered from militants was also done for the visiting delegation. The delegation later interacted with the officers, JCOs and soldiers deployed in the area," the statement said.
During his two-day visit, the defense secretary was briefed on the security situation along the borders by Northern Army commander, Lieutenant General K.T. Parnaik and the Chinar Corps commander, Lieutenant General Syed Ata Hasnain.
Sharma also met Governor N.N. Vohra, and Chief Minister, Omar Abdullah during his maiden visit to the state after taking over as the defense secretary.
There has been an increase in infiltration bids into the Valley from across the LOC during the recent days. The Pakistan army has violated the bilateral ceasefire eight times during the last one week, according to defense officials.
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http://www.defenceweb.co.za/index.p...most-expensive-tank-&catid=50:Land&Itemid=105
India's Arjun (Lion) Mk II main battle tank will cost US$8.02 million per unit, defence minister AK Antony has told his nation's parliament. The French ADIT agency notes this makes the indigenous Indian design the world's most expensive tank to date.
By comparison, a new Abrams M1A2 cost the US$6.2 million in 1999. Indian media last week reported the first batch of Arjun Mk II's are likely to enter series production by 2015. Development of the Arjun reportedly started in 1972 with a production decision following in 1996 and a production order for 124, costing US$471.2 million, placed on the Indian Ordinance Factory's production facility at Avadi in 2000.
The first 45 58.5 metric ton (mt) tanks were delivered to the Indian Army between August 2004 and May 2009. A further 55 followed by June this year. The original design relied heavily on foreign components and technology, with close to 50% of the tank's components initially imported. Much of this has since been replaced by indigenous systems, including a 120mm main gun. After extensive field evaluations and tests, the tank entered service with the 75th Armoured Regiment on May 12.
The automotive trials, in 1988-1989, revealed major deficiencies in mobility, engine, and transmission. Further mobility and armament trials followed in 1996 and 1997. The Army reportedly found the performance of the prototypes below the acceptable standards and listed as deficiencies the accuracy of the gun at battle ranges, mission reliability, ammunition lethality, emergency traverse and a fire control system unable to function in temperatures above 42 degrees Celsius.
Anthony added the Defence Acquisition Council (DAC) has approved an order for 124 more Arjun, albeit in the 55mt Mk II guise. This features 93 upgrades, including 13 major improvements over the Mk1.
India's Arjun (Lion) Mk II main battle tank will cost US$8.02 million per unit, defence minister AK Antony has told his nation's parliament. The French ADIT agency notes this makes the indigenous Indian design the world's most expensive tank to date.
By comparison, a new Abrams M1A2 cost the US$6.2 million in 1999. Indian media last week reported the first batch of Arjun Mk II's are likely to enter series production by 2015. Development of the Arjun reportedly started in 1972 with a production decision following in 1996 and a production order for 124, costing US$471.2 million, placed on the Indian Ordinance Factory's production facility at Avadi in 2000.
The first 45 58.5 metric ton (mt) tanks were delivered to the Indian Army between August 2004 and May 2009. A further 55 followed by June this year. The original design relied heavily on foreign components and technology, with close to 50% of the tank's components initially imported. Much of this has since been replaced by indigenous systems, including a 120mm main gun. After extensive field evaluations and tests, the tank entered service with the 75th Armoured Regiment on May 12.
The automotive trials, in 1988-1989, revealed major deficiencies in mobility, engine, and transmission. Further mobility and armament trials followed in 1996 and 1997. The Army reportedly found the performance of the prototypes below the acceptable standards and listed as deficiencies the accuracy of the gun at battle ranges, mission reliability, ammunition lethality, emergency traverse and a fire control system unable to function in temperatures above 42 degrees Celsius.
Anthony added the Defence Acquisition Council (DAC) has approved an order for 124 more Arjun, albeit in the 55mt Mk II guise. This features 93 upgrades, including 13 major improvements over the Mk1.
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