India seeks talks with Pak army, ISI chief

[Spring Onion]

India to open talks with Pak army, ISI chief

NEW DELHI: India has asked its envoy in Pakistan to open channels of communication with Pakistani army chief General Pervez Kayani as well as ISI chief Shuja Pasha, which, if he agrees, could open up new possibilities of deepening Indo-Pak engagement.

"We have given the green signal," said government sources. As a new season of Indo-Pak engagement bursts upon the sub-continent, there is a realization that India's efforts to talk is incomplete because there is no communication with the Pakistani army — effectively the real power centre. The diplomatic outreach to General Kayani is under the rubric of engaging all stakeholders so as not to attract extra attention, but it's a special effort by India. However, Kayani is yet to respond to Indian overtures.

Pakistani PM Yousuf Raza Gilani may accept Manmohan Singh's invitation to attend the World Cup cricket semi-final match in Mohali next week. While the event is not expected to significantly alter bilateral ties, it may clear the air. Certainly, on the Indian side, the initiative is entirely the prime minister's. Singh has completely invested in the idea that he should somehow resolve the Indo-Pak problem, despite the number of hiccups that have marred previous efforts.

India remains hesitant about including the Pakistani army chief in the official dialogue because of a perceived difference in the relative importance between the army leadership in Pakistan and India. In India, the military brass is subordinated to the civilian leadership. In Pakistan, despite the facade of the civilian government, everybody is very clear about where the real power lies.

In 2009, ISI chief, General Shuja Pasha attended an iftar dinner by Indian envoy to Pakistan Sharat Sabharwal, which was seen to herald some kind of a thaw. Earlier, too, India had asked to engage the Pakistani army chief, but to little avail. The Pakistani army chief leads the strategic dialogue process with the US, which includes both civilian and military components in the talks. But India remains wedded to the civilian establishment, and has historically only engaged the Pakistani army chief after he has taken over power in a coup.

Kayani is a different kettle of fish. Having declared to be "India centric", the chain-smoking quiet Pakistani army chief has generally been seen to be the most hostile army leader.

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India to open talks with Pak army, ISI chief - The Times of India

 

[MilSpec]

no meaningful talks till terror ends... std indian diplomatic stand post 26/11

 

[Ignited Mind]

no meaningful talks till terror ends... std indian diplomatic stand post 26/11

Talks with PA and ISI are bound to be meaningful, talk with Zardari and Gilani are not.

 

[Last Hope]

Maybe they still want to talk about Mumbai. Nothing else could be seen.

 

[JanjaWeed]

hmm.. now the real talk begins!!

 

[divya]

The question is who is to be talked to? There are so many fractions with no absolute authority with absolute disagreement with one another. There is army, then gov, isi, mullah brigade and then common public. And the trouble is any decison which anyone comes up with wont be acceptable to another fraction

 

[Spring Onion]

no meaningful talks till terror ends... std indian diplomatic stand post 26/11

I agree until Bharat aka India hands over all those Hindu terrorists to Pakistan who have killed 68 Pakistanis in Samjhota Express

 

[divya]

I agree until Bharat aka India hands over all those Hindu terrorists to Pakistan who have killed 68 Pakistanis in Samjhota Express

first ask your government to ask for them then secondly hand over hafiz bhaijaan. Its not in our intersts to talk but its in your favor we can continue with the current state for next 20 years but can you continue with fueling of insurgencies

 

[Secret Service]

i posted this article brfore....the last few lines shows their credibility...

 

[blackops]

What the hell are we doing what are we going to talk cricket if the isi army agrees the govt wont if the govt does mullahs wont if they do common man wont it is just waste of time no useful thing gona come out of this

 

[Dalai Lama]

first ask your government to ask for them then secondly hand over hafiz bhaijaan. Its not in our intersts to talk but its in your favor we can continue with the current state for next 20 years but can you continue with fueling of insurgencies

Come on guys, we all know how these discussions go...

 

[Spring Onion]

first ask your government to ask for them then secondly hand over hafiz bhaijaan. Its not in our intersts to talk but its in your favor we can continue with the current state for next 20 years but can you continue with fueling of insurgencies

bwahahahahah then dont talk we are not begging its your bharati govt who is begging ISI and our Army to talk to them

2. The two dozen insurgencies in India are home grown and are continues since 70s and beyond so we have no hand in your home grown insurgencies.

 

[Spring Onion]

What the hell are we doing what are we going to talk cricket if the isi army agrees the govt wont if the govt does mullahs wont if they do common man wont it is just waste of time no useful thing gona come out of this

1. Recently the cables reported by bharati media said MM Singh was all alone in initiation of talks with Pakistan whereas his Govt was not supporting him unlike Pakistan where we all are onboard for talks with India.

2. Maulana Fazlur Rehman is head of the Kashmir committee of Pakistani parliament and he had and is supporting talks with India so your epic about mullahs or so on failed.

3. even your media today is reporting in this same report that MM Singh's invitation for match is his personal act

4. Indian hindu hardline groups are not in favour of talks

So you need to look within and find some faults with yourself as well

 

[divya]

bwahahahahah then dont talk we are not begging its your bharati govt who is begging ISI and our Army to talk to them

2. The two dozen insurgencies in India are home grown and are continues since 70s and beyond so we have no hand in your home grown insurgencies.

lol it has been your gov crying since long that india is not talking to us. As far as insurgencies apart from pakistan every nation in the world is convinced for the souces for terrorism outsourcing. I guess your leaders were hgh on weed when hey actually acknowledged about involvement of pakistan in india. I guess you wont need links for those statements as they were released by your own media.

 

[Ignited Mind]

1. Recently the cables reported by bharati media said MM Singh was all alone in initiation of talks with Pakistan whereas his Govt was not supporting him unlike Pakistan where we all are onboard for talks with India.

2. Maulana Fazlur Rehman is head of the Kashmir committee of Pakistani parliament and he had and is supporting talks with India so your epic about mullahs or so on failed.

3. even your media today is reporting in this same report that MM Singh's invitation for match is his personal act

4. Indian hindu hardline groups are not in favour of talks

So you need to look within and find some faults with yourself as well

First make up your mind whether you believe Wiki-leaks or not? I have seen YOU refute and rubbish them many times in the past.

A quote from WikiLeaks which YOU YOURSELF have riduculed in the past only shows your hypocrisy and opportunism.

BTW, Wiki-Leaks from Pakistan and China are yet to be published as stated by Julian Assange so I'd wait before trying to score brownie points over Wiki-Leaks if I were you.