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Even as Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan was openly cosying up to Pakistan against India at the UNGA, New Delhi has been quietly cementing its ties with three of Ankaras close neighbours and strong rivals - Cyprus, Armenia and Greece.

Prime Minister Narendra Modi met the President of Cyprus Nicos Anastasiades after his UN General Assembly speech, during which the former "reiterated India's consistent support for the independence, sovereignty, territorial integrity and unity of the Republic of Cyprus".

India's statement was significant as the east Mediterranean island was split in a Turkish invasion in 1974, with Ankara occupying the northern part.

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Turkey established the Turkish Republic of Northern Cyprus (TRNC), which marked the beginning of a long military standoff between the two sides.

The TRNC lacks international recognition, and has diplomatic ties with only Turkey. Erdogan has also refused to withdraw over 30,000 troops stationed in northern Cyprus.

Modi also met Greek Prime Minister Kyriakos Mitsotakis on Friday.

Following the meeting, Modi tweeted: "Had the opportunity to interact with the PM of Greece, @kmitsotakis. India-Greece relations have stood the test of time. We will work to enhance trade as well as people-to-people relations for the benefit of our citizens."

Both leaders reviewed the state of bilateral relations and discussed steps to intensify political, economic and people to people exchanges.

Turkey and Greece have long had strained ties, and were close to military conflict over the Greek islets of Imia in 1996, before the US stepped in to avert disaster. The uninhabited islets in the Aegean Sea, known as Kardak islets, or Imia in Greece, have been the subject of much friction between the two sides.

Greece and Turkey are also in a spat over Ankara threatening to explore for hydrocarbons in areas Greece claims as its own continental shelf.

Though Greece is smaller in size to Turkey, it spends a formidable amount of its budget on defence spending - seventh in the world at $1,230 per capita - and whose fighter pilots regularly engage in mock dogfights with invading Turkish jets.

Modi also met his Armenian counterpart Nikol Pashinyan, whose country shares a border with Turkey with whom relations have been rocky.

Armenians have not been able to forgive the genocide of millions of its nationals by the Turks of the Ottoman Empire in 1915. The Turkish government has denied that a genocide ever took place.

"Had extensive deliberations with PM @NikolPashinyan. We talked about expanding India-Armenia cooperation in aspects relating to technology, pharmaceuticals and agro-based industries. PM Pashinyan also referred to the popularity of Indian movies, music and Yoga in Armenia," Modi tweeted on Thursday.

Earlier this year, the Armenian Parliament Speaker Ararat Mirzoyan described Armenia and Cyprus as "true friends" that share the common goal of containing Turkey.

The Foreign Ministers of Cyprus, Greece and Armenia also held their first-ever trilateral meeting in the Cypriot capital of Nicosia in June.

In his UNGA speech, Anastasiades said "Cyprus remains the last European divided country".

He also accused Turkey of violating the sovereign rights of Cyprus in its internationally recognised exclusive economic zone (EEZ) and continental shelf.

The Greek Prime Minister in his UNGA speech slammed Turkey's "gunboat diplomacy" saying it undermines prospects to resolve the Cyprus issue.

"Turkey's illegal drilling activities undermine efforts to restart negotiations and dangerously escalate tensions in the Eastern Mediterranean," he said.

The Armenian Prime Minister also slammed Turkey in his UNGA speech for "refusing to establish diplomatic relations with Armenia, overtly assisting Azerbaijan against Armenia and Nagorno Karabakh" and termed Turkey "a serious security threat to Armenia and the Armenian people who had experienced the deep tragedy of the Genocide and continue to face the fierce denial of truth and justice".

In view of the deep animosity the three countries share with Turkey, Modi's meetings with the leaders assumes significance, and is an apparent move to counter Ankara's moves to side with Islamabad against India.

https://economictimes.indiatimes.co...sying-up-to-pakistan/articleshow/71347703.cms
 
Even as Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan was openly cosying up to Pakistan against India at the UNGA, New Delhi has been quietly cementing its ties with three of Ankaras close neighbours and strong rivals - Cyprus, Armenia and Greece.

Prime Minister Narendra Modi met the President of Cyprus Nicos Anastasiades after his UN General Assembly speech, during which the former "reiterated India's consistent support for the independence, sovereignty, territorial integrity and unity of the Republic of Cyprus".

India's statement was significant as the east Mediterranean island was split in a Turkish invasion in 1974, with Ankara occupying the northern part.

7_img129919095911.jpg

Turkey established the Turkish Republic of Northern Cyprus (TRNC), which marked the beginning of a long military standoff between the two sides.

The TRNC lacks international recognition, and has diplomatic ties with only Turkey. Erdogan has also refused to withdraw over 30,000 troops stationed in northern Cyprus.

Modi also met Greek Prime Minister Kyriakos Mitsotakis on Friday.

Following the meeting, Modi tweeted: "Had the opportunity to interact with the PM of Greece, @kmitsotakis. India-Greece relations have stood the test of time. We will work to enhance trade as well as people-to-people relations for the benefit of our citizens."

Both leaders reviewed the state of bilateral relations and discussed steps to intensify political, economic and people to people exchanges.

Turkey and Greece have long had strained ties, and were close to military conflict over the Greek islets of Imia in 1996, before the US stepped in to avert disaster. The uninhabited islets in the Aegean Sea, known as Kardak islets, or Imia in Greece, have been the subject of much friction between the two sides.

Greece and Turkey are also in a spat over Ankara threatening to explore for hydrocarbons in areas Greece claims as its own continental shelf.

Though Greece is smaller in size to Turkey, it spends a formidable amount of its budget on defence spending - seventh in the world at $1,230 per capita - and whose fighter pilots regularly engage in mock dogfights with invading Turkish jets.

Modi also met his Armenian counterpart Nikol Pashinyan, whose country shares a border with Turkey with whom relations have been rocky.

Armenians have not been able to forgive the genocide of millions of its nationals by the Turks of the Ottoman Empire in 1915. The Turkish government has denied that a genocide ever took place.

"Had extensive deliberations with PM @NikolPashinyan. We talked about expanding India-Armenia cooperation in aspects relating to technology, pharmaceuticals and agro-based industries. PM Pashinyan also referred to the popularity of Indian movies, music and Yoga in Armenia," Modi tweeted on Thursday.

Earlier this year, the Armenian Parliament Speaker Ararat Mirzoyan described Armenia and Cyprus as "true friends" that share the common goal of containing Turkey.

The Foreign Ministers of Cyprus, Greece and Armenia also held their first-ever trilateral meeting in the Cypriot capital of Nicosia in June.

In his UNGA speech, Anastasiades said "Cyprus remains the last European divided country".

He also accused Turkey of violating the sovereign rights of Cyprus in its internationally recognised exclusive economic zone (EEZ) and continental shelf.

The Greek Prime Minister in his UNGA speech slammed Turkey's "gunboat diplomacy" saying it undermines prospects to resolve the Cyprus issue.

"Turkey's illegal drilling activities undermine efforts to restart negotiations and dangerously escalate tensions in the Eastern Mediterranean," he said.

The Armenian Prime Minister also slammed Turkey in his UNGA speech for "refusing to establish diplomatic relations with Armenia, overtly assisting Azerbaijan against Armenia and Nagorno Karabakh" and termed Turkey "a serious security threat to Armenia and the Armenian people who had experienced the deep tragedy of the Genocide and continue to face the fierce denial of truth and justice".

In view of the deep animosity the three countries share with Turkey, Modi's meetings with the leaders assumes significance, and is an apparent move to counter Ankara's moves to side with Islamabad against India.

https://economictimes.indiatimes.co...sying-up-to-pakistan/articleshow/71347703.cms
Oh dear. So USA, Russia and China tell India to do one. The next tier of movers and shakers available for courting by Charlie Chai Walla are Cyprus, Greece and Armenia. That's quite a posse you're putting together there.
 
Even as Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan was openly cosying up to Pakistan against India at the UNGA, New Delhi has been quietly cementing its ties with three of Ankaras close neighbours and strong rivals - Cyprus, Armenia and Greece.

Prime Minister Narendra Modi met the President of Cyprus Nicos Anastasiades after his UN General Assembly speech, during which the former "reiterated India's consistent support for the independence, sovereignty, territorial integrity and unity of the Republic of Cyprus".

India's statement was significant as the east Mediterranean island was split in a Turkish invasion in 1974, with Ankara occupying the northern part.

7_img129919095911.jpg

Turkey established the Turkish Republic of Northern Cyprus (TRNC), which marked the beginning of a long military standoff between the two sides.

The TRNC lacks international recognition, and has diplomatic ties with only Turkey. Erdogan has also refused to withdraw over 30,000 troops stationed in northern Cyprus.

Modi also met Greek Prime Minister Kyriakos Mitsotakis on Friday.

Following the meeting, Modi tweeted: "Had the opportunity to interact with the PM of Greece, @kmitsotakis. India-Greece relations have stood the test of time. We will work to enhance trade as well as people-to-people relations for the benefit of our citizens."

Both leaders reviewed the state of bilateral relations and discussed steps to intensify political, economic and people to people exchanges.

Turkey and Greece have long had strained ties, and were close to military conflict over the Greek islets of Imia in 1996, before the US stepped in to avert disaster. The uninhabited islets in the Aegean Sea, known as Kardak islets, or Imia in Greece, have been the subject of much friction between the two sides.

Greece and Turkey are also in a spat over Ankara threatening to explore for hydrocarbons in areas Greece claims as its own continental shelf.

Though Greece is smaller in size to Turkey, it spends a formidable amount of its budget on defence spending - seventh in the world at $1,230 per capita - and whose fighter pilots regularly engage in mock dogfights with invading Turkish jets.

Modi also met his Armenian counterpart Nikol Pashinyan, whose country shares a border with Turkey with whom relations have been rocky.

Armenians have not been able to forgive the genocide of millions of its nationals by the Turks of the Ottoman Empire in 1915. The Turkish government has denied that a genocide ever took place.

"Had extensive deliberations with PM @NikolPashinyan. We talked about expanding India-Armenia cooperation in aspects relating to technology, pharmaceuticals and agro-based industries. PM Pashinyan also referred to the popularity of Indian movies, music and Yoga in Armenia," Modi tweeted on Thursday.

Earlier this year, the Armenian Parliament Speaker Ararat Mirzoyan described Armenia and Cyprus as "true friends" that share the common goal of containing Turkey.

The Foreign Ministers of Cyprus, Greece and Armenia also held their first-ever trilateral meeting in the Cypriot capital of Nicosia in June.

In his UNGA speech, Anastasiades said "Cyprus remains the last European divided country".

He also accused Turkey of violating the sovereign rights of Cyprus in its internationally recognised exclusive economic zone (EEZ) and continental shelf.

The Greek Prime Minister in his UNGA speech slammed Turkey's "gunboat diplomacy" saying it undermines prospects to resolve the Cyprus issue.

"Turkey's illegal drilling activities undermine efforts to restart negotiations and dangerously escalate tensions in the Eastern Mediterranean," he said.

The Armenian Prime Minister also slammed Turkey in his UNGA speech for "refusing to establish diplomatic relations with Armenia, overtly assisting Azerbaijan against Armenia and Nagorno Karabakh" and termed Turkey "a serious security threat to Armenia and the Armenian people who had experienced the deep tragedy of the Genocide and continue to face the fierce denial of truth and justice".

In view of the deep animosity the three countries share with Turkey, Modi's meetings with the leaders assumes significance, and is an apparent move to counter Ankara's moves to side with Islamabad against India.

https://economictimes.indiatimes.co...sying-up-to-pakistan/articleshow/71347703.cms

They do it right. Erdogans big mouth an undiplomatic speeches will have a price.
 
When is supapowa going to move against China, Malaysia, or the US because they were also "cosying up" with Pakistan
You gotta choose your battles. China cannot take on US over Taiwan, but then it does not that they cann't bully or buy other smaller nations to drop their diplomatic support of Taiwan.

India can certainly make things harder for Erodogan.
 
You gotta choose your battles. China cannot take on US over Taiwan, but then it does not that they cann't bully or buy other smaller nations to drop their diplomatic support of Taiwan.

India can certainly make things harder for Erodogan.
What does India has that will benefit Cyprus and Greece?
 
What does India has that will benefit Cyprus and Greece?
Diplomatic support. Media. Possible funding of specific activities against Turkey. Possible export of some weapons -- if they can. More than anything else raising a similar voice as Turkey does against India. basically it gives them talking points.
 
The Armenian Prime Minister also slammed Turkey in his UNGA speech for "refusing to establish diplomatic relations with Armenia, overtly assisting Azerbaijan against Armenia and Nagorno Karabakh" and termed Turkey "a serious security threat to Armenia and the Armenian people who had experienced the deep tragedy of the Genocide and continue to face the fierce denial of truth and justice".

:lol:
He actually should be thankful that we don't exaggerate it, i mean we could kick all the illegal Armenians out of Turkey and close air space.

And pretty hard words from a country that massacred tens of thousand Turks in WW1 and many thousand of our Azerbaijani bros in Karabakh.

Hope Turkeys isolation politics never ends.
 
You gotta choose your battles. China cannot take on US over Taiwan, but then it does not that they cann't bully or buy other smaller nations to drop their diplomatic support of Taiwan.

India can certainly make things harder for Erodogan.

Yes they can, most of the world recognises PRC as the only government of China, everyone else views PRC as the legitimate government but has informal relations with ROC.

India is irrelevant in comparison, its only influence is as a regional power that has mid sized trade relations with the world. It has no "friends" or allies and trade itself is a volatile relation, it can easily be reduced or replaced at a moments notice, thats why there is a complete reluctance to acknowledge or endorse Indian activities despite the other partner in the dispute is a much smaller nation with miniscule amounts of trade with the rest of the world.

What is Greece or Cyprus going to do? Why would they ever work with India against the Turks when the only thing Indians have to offer is money? What about the US, Malaysia, China, Saudis, etc. who all condemned Indian activities?

Good point! If Nazi Germany had not invaded Poland and had remained content with territory it had acquired during policy of appeasement, Germany might have been much bigger now and yes, it would have been considered legitimate by then powers.

Difference between India and Nazi Germany is that unlike Nazi Germany, India seems to have neither any power nor any intention of world conquest. Their goals are much more modest.

This is the reason why I usually ask folks to not confuse current Indian activities with Nazi. It essentially stops your from understanding their plans. Its stupid and simple to call something Nazi or Hitler. But then, you fail to look into it any further.


Okay tell me then, did Israel get any support for annexation of Palestine territories? Did China get any support for annexation of Tibet? Did China get any support for demographic change of Uyghurs in their native land?

BTW, all of the world now treats most of these actions legitimate. Despite all the public protests, at political level, they have succeeded in annexing these territories or changing the demographics.

This is more comparable to current Indian goals. From the looks of it, they are well on their way to achieve it.

Im not comparing Nazi Germany with India, yes Modi is a bitsize wannabe Hindu hitler, but the Nazis were clever, organised, and industrial people which are the polar opposite of what BJP and Modi is

Yes, Israel did get support and so did China, they got them when nations that set up relations with them including the UN acknowledged that the territory they are in posession of is their sovereign land. When countries stop saying that Kashmir is disputed then Gangus can claim that they got legitimacy, but it doesnt look like thats going to ever happen any time soon.
 

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