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When did France offer reactors to India ?
Talks on Jaitapur nuclear plant to resume soon
French government to abide by India's civil nuclear liability law...
...However, said Richer, the French government wanted clarity from the Modi government on issues involving the price of power, provisions of India's civil nuclear liability law and the procurement of certain key equipment by Areva from Japan required for the Jaitapur project.
“The Jaitapur project came up for discussion during French foreign minister Laurent Fabius's meetings last week with Prime Minister Narendra Modi, External Affairs minister Sushma Swaraj, Finance Minister Arun Jaitley and Environment and Forests minister Prakash Javadekar. The French government has no objection to India’s civil nuclear liability law but it wants a clear picture on its provisions. France and Areva will abide by the law,” said Richer.
As Sancho mentioned, BJP wanted this liability law in first place.. If this was the case, the treaty would have signed many years ago..
But we still had option than watering down liability law to please the Americans..
MMS was just short sighted in strategic vision
That depends on the Data, civilian nuclear data can be shared which isn't really a problem. The problem comes when the data of military nuclear installations is shared. So when India says "will share Nuclear data". Which one is it ?
You can't argue with them, trust me I tried.Really? The man that brought economic reforms to India, which is the base of Indias rise today, the man that brought the nuclear deal, which not only opened up Indias access to energy but to huge political and economic improvements to the US and all it's allies (just look at our relations to Japan, Australia, Canada today and before the deal), the man that even understood that Indias growth can even increase multiple times, if we get to stable relations to Pakistan and peace in the region..., THAT MAN was short sighted in strategic vision???
US is showing true colour of their friendship
Exactly my thoughtsSo when India says "will share Nuclear data". Which one is it ?
Nuclear deal ,123 agreement all of them were just a trick for increasing relation with India.It was the George W Bush who came with this idea.At that time he told to our PM that we are more interested in relation with India and we dont have any problem even if we dont.buy a single reactor from US.But Of course US corporates thinks otherwise.
MMS was just short sighted in strategic vision and they also have some old Indira socialist policy .Perhaps that was also a reason .BJP was just an opposition at that time.
But in this case US might be give up their WTO games and IPR issues.That is why I said this was some kind of give and take policy. You know we can move forward without these deal with US.But there is a lot of dicussions is going on behind the curtain.
I think our officials neither interested in a conflict of interest with US nor interested in compromising our national interest.
You can't argue with them, trust me I tried.
Everybody is free to have an opinion and surely MMS was a tragic figure under UPA 2 and he has to carry his bag for sure, but to say that he didn't had vision after these crucial achievements he got India, is more than unfair.
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Everybody is free to have an opinion and surely MMS was a tragic figure under UPA 2 and he has to carry his bag for sure, but to say that he didn't had vision after these crucial achievements he got India, is more than unfair.
@sancho ji, think above these terms.
India had to get nuclear tech for civilian use, is mainly electricity generation in this decade actually previous decade.
It would have happened even if USSR had been around.
If you haven't noticed so far, we had been in the midst of shifting camps. From Russia based to US based. The problems we had faced under MMS were of unknown nature, insurance pooling was available then just like now. The problems must have been something else.
Now that US is courting India and is actively waiving its own rules nd regulations it is but natural that we would loosen up our girdle too in order to get comfortable.
If you ask me sancho sir, I would say, the Gandhi family found a nice highly educated dog to walk and never let an opportunity go by to utilise that man for its personal gain. Since 1990.
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That's not correct, since it's not about nuclear techs, but to get access to nuclear materials, which countries like Australia or Canada denied us before the deal, because we didn't agreed to international contracts and wasn't an official nuclear power. The 123 pact changed all that and ONLY, because the US pushed it through although several of their allies were against it.
No we are not shifting to the US side at all, we just take advantage of them opening up to us, which again is the result of the 123 pact. If we shift sides, we wouldn't keep buying huge numbers of Russian arms and would not insist on ToT, offset or reducing the end user monitoring (CISOMA) requirements. We know that they want our market, we know that they want us as a counterweight to China and that puts us in the better position to demand things from them.
And as I said earlier, the same BJP that now is softening the lieability issue, back then was so strict about it and thereby caused the delays. If they had accepted the same softenings, the deal would had been fixed by now and we might even see the first US companies investing in India by now.
Got to go now, see ya!
And I wouldn't deny it, but even that makes clear, that it was his individual vision brought as were we are now. Without him the UPA might not had achiedved the same and that's why one has to credit MMS for that.
Similarly, I gave Modi the credit that he negotiated things fast and as the first reports said, without the tracking demands of the US. If that now turns out to be a fake and the US at the end got more out of the deal than we got, because Modi backed back from his own remarks and the strict laws the BJP wanted for political reasons 10 years ago. An MMS that got what he wanted for India, even if his own party was not really behind him has achieved more, than a Modi IF (we still need all details) he reduced the liability laws now just to get anything from the US, which puts India into disadvantage in negotiating the same now with Russian and France.
I too had the same feeling.. I mean we watered down the liability clause. Inshort if anything wrong happened we will be responsible.. I know it wont go down well with Modi fans but UPA was pretty strong when it comes to this kind of treaties and their foreign affairs was strong than that of current government..