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If Greece had nukes, they would be bailed out by now

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Thomas Straubhaar, a top economist from Germany, attacked U.S. credit agencies after they lowered Greece's credit rating to junk status, down there with the Pakistans of this world. In fact, in the spirit of Greek street protesters, Straubhaar called for the "violent overthrow" of the credit rating companies like Moody's or Standard & Poor's, arguing that these companies actually undermine stability in markets.

Come on, Thomas, don't shoot the messenger. The problem isn't the credit rating agencies -- although one does wonder if they don't have itchy trigger fingers after having been late with their warnings during the 2008-2009 phase of the current protracted economic crisis.

The problem isn't the Greek finance ministry. The problem isn't the Greek legislature. The problem isn't the Europeans who are being dragged kicking and screaming toward helping Greece. The problem isn't even Goldman Sachs and the other banks who lent Greece more money than they could afford and even helped them hide a bunch of the financings off the books.

Nope, the problem is Greek nuclear scientists and radical terror groups affiliated with the Greek intelligence services -- or rather, the lack thereof.

Because if Greece had nuclear weapons and crazed terrorists hiding in every luxury housing development, you can bet we wouldn't be going through this long drawn-out process of figuring out whether the country was going to default or not.

We know this because of Pakistan. Pakistan is an absolute financial basket case. It is in many respects in as bad a shape as Greece -- and in some it is even much worse off. But do you hear anyone talking about Pakistan's financial problems? Heck no.

Of course, talking about Pakistan's financial problems is like talking about whether Anthony Weiner's socks match. It's not exactly the first issue that comes to mind. Having said that, the reason we are not sweating the meltdown of Pakistan's financial markets is that there is no way the United States or the world would let it happen. Because a financial collapse could trigger the kind of unrest that would put Pakistani nukes at risk, and that's just not tolerable. So the United States pumps billions into Pakistan knowing full well that it is this aid that helps keep the ship of state afloat. (And, money being fungible, if it also pays for expanding Pakistan's nuclear arsenal … well, apparently we're willing to look the other way. Again.)

Once again, one of the main messages of modern international affairs comes through loud and clear: Nukes pay. From Pyongyang to Tehran, enterprising leaders know that the easiest way to boost your country's profile, gain political leverage, and win cash and prizes is to toss a little enriched uranium in the old Cuisinart, let the satellites take a few snaps, and start rattling your radioactive saber.

The problem with Greece is that if the economy collapsed, if the government collapsed, if the country descended into chaos, no one is worried that a nuclear catastrophe would follow. An ouzo-induced hangover maybe -- which can be a pretty horrific thing -- but it's the specter of a mushroom cloud that really is the attention grabber.

Admittedly, if Greece goes down and takes a few big French banks with it (as the ratings agencies warned this week) and markets get jittery and the firewall around Spain gives way and then a bunch more French and maybe German banks fail and a new global banking crisis and maybe a depression ensues -- well, that would be bad. And would produce instability in many corners of the world, including, possibly, in Pakistan. And if the downturn is bad enough it might force the U.S. and others to give less the next time Club Nuke comes to extort. So, well, yeah, that would be worse.

But, that's all speculation. What we know for sure is this: If there were a centrifuge or a hundred under the Parthenon, the Greek government would right now be sitting on piles of cash and not squirming, knowing that their fate depends on the famously warm hearts and generosity of the German people (among others).

If Greece had nukes, they would be bailed out by now | David Rothkopf
 
nonsense. There is no relation with pakistan's nukes and US aid. They give us Aid because they need us in afghanistan, when they leave afghanistan all this aid thing will be no more and sanction will replace it as it happened in the past. and no comparation of greece and pakistan as well. greece has defaulted because of its own or international economics recession. But pakistan is in this state because of this WOT. Greece is not facing what we are here in pakistan.
 
nonsense. There is no relation with pakistan's nukes and US aid. They give us Aid because they need us in afghanistan, when they leave afghanistan all this aid thing will be no more and sanction will replace it as it happened in the past. and no comparation of greece and pakistan as well. greece has defaulted because of its own or international economics recession. But pakistan is in this state because of this WOT. Greece is not facing what we are here in pakistan.

Over the past six years, the Bush administration has spent almost $100 million on a highly classified program to help Gen. Pervez Musharraf, Pakistan’s president, secure his country’s nuclear weapons, according to current and former senior administration officials.

U.S. Secretly Aids Pakistan in Guarding Nuclear Arms - New York Times
 
US have to give us aid if they want us to protect them.and if we are going to default we can sell 15 nukes to get rid of all our debt we got choices we are not greece we are pakistan the land of the proud
 
US have to give us aid if they want us to protect them.and if we are going to default we can sell 15 nukes to get rid of all our debt we got choices we are not greece we are pakistan the land of the proud

I am sure Greeks will disagree with you, sadly.

But you are patriotic, which is why I understand you wrote that.

Anyone selling nukes missiles, will be bombed sadly.
 
US have to give us aid if they want us to protect them.and if we are going to default we can sell 15 nukes to get rid of all our debt we got choices we are not greece we are pakistan the land of the proud

please sell immediately and after that we will have to worry only about our northern neighbor !
 
lol you dont have to if sell them to bangladesh and srilanka turkey iran and saudi then you have to worry about everyside north south east west
 
US have to give us aid if they want us to protect them.and if we are going to default we can sell 15 nukes to get rid of all our debt we got choices we are not greece we are pakistan the land of the proud

"give us aide or we shall sell nukes to clear our debts"!!
It is what we call 'nukemailing' -used when just blackmailing isnt felt potent enough ;)
 
I am sure Greeks will disagree with you, sadly.

But you are patriotic, which is why I understand you wrote that.

Anyone selling nukes missiles, will be bombed sadly.

its just a propaganda no one can bomb us were will they do it from?is india that stupid to let some one bomb our nuclear sites from india?because india will get evapourated.and did some one bomb china?or north korea?they gave us nukes and missiles what happened to them anything?and if US can give nukes to israel then we can as well remember a nation could go to any extent to feed its population and save it from harms way
 
Pakistans Debt/GDP ration is less than 60% while that of greece is more than 120%......

So it is completely dumb to make a comparison of the two.
 
Pakistans Debt/GDP ration is less than 60% while that of greece is more than 120%......

So it is completely dumb to make a comparison of the two.

Not really, look at England or USA or France Debt/GDP ratio, its much higher then Greece.

It doesnt always tell the full picture though.
 
lol greece is country of 11 million ppls with debt of over 300 billion dollars .bailed out by eurozone and IMF for 110 billion dollars ..
Pakistan country of 180 million ppls have debt of 100 billion internal/external both 60% of GDP ... bailed out by IMF only 12 billion dollars that too only 9 billiion have been given .... n still they compare themselves with Paksitan .. a country who lost 67 billion dollars on war of terror ... while greece wasted money in F...ng Bi......es and have lavish life style .. they spent 9 billion on 2004 olympics and all venues are still closed and used for only 3 weeks ...
 

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