'ICC has no problem with Pakistan cricket team offering namaz on ground but MS Dhoni...'

[namefield_empty]

pace bowlers are available in verities here .

Apparently not, you have tried dozens of pacers in the last 5 years and are yet to earmark the future prospects. Unlike us, Bumrah was unearthed 3 years back but the other two Bhuvneshwar and Shami have been around since 2012, the core of our team has remained unchanged.

Those days of Wasim, Waqar and Shoaib are long gone.

Watched a graph today on tv listing countries by the numbers of deliveries bowled over 140 kmph. Pakistan once topped the list, now it's at the bottom with India and Australia leading.

 

[DESERT FIGHTER]

This troll made a lot of money post 911 selling Islamophobia. Now that the world is moving on he is loosing his cash cow and so it desperate for attention.

This loon recently attacked Sarfraz for wearing shalwar kameez.

And for a Scottish MP (Karachi native) taking oath in Urdu (and Scottish):

He called him an extremist and whatnot.

Nowaday the old khanzeer, is calling him an “indian” born in Pakistan.

 

[SIPRA]

Tarek, we know you have gain popularity in India by "chuking" Indian's "taaaaaaa..." but really really!!!

"Ta**ay chuk oye ta**ay chuk
Khuddaari day phattay chuk"

 

[DESERT FIGHTER]

Those synchronised army push-ups and salutes will come under the scanner too, BCCI will ensure that the rule is followed to the t.
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Dhoni is free to wear indian army labelled diapers after or before the match if he wants.

Our troops weren't doing a salute to their instructors during the match.

So no fks given.

 

[namefield_empty]

Dhoni is free to wear indian army labelled diapers after or before the match if he wants.

Our troops weren't doing a salute to their instructors during the match.

So no fks given.

Oh, i thought your lazy fielders (keep in mind that Pakistan is one of the least athletic cricket teams) were just being grateful to their army overlords for getting them off their lazy rears and acquaint them with the modern rigour of sports.

 

[masterchief_mirza]

Apparently not, you have tried dozens of pacers in the last 5 years and are yet to earmark the future prospects. Unlike us, Bumrah was unearthed 3 years back but the other two Bhuvneshwar and Shami have been around since 2012, the core of our team has remained unchanged.

Those days of Wasim, Waqar and Shoaib are long gone.

Watched a graph today on tv listing countries by the numbers of deliveries bowled over 140 kmph. Pakistan once topped the list, now it's at the bottom with India and Australia leading.

Pure pace is not of much relevance and is possibly even overrated, especially in short formats. Pure pace works when you know the batsman may well try to leave or defend, but the accuracy forces him to play, then he is too late because of the pace. This kind of set up works well in test matches. In ODI and T20, it is more about variations, slower balls and field placements, because you already know the batsman will be looking to attack the ball. Short format batsman have learned to handle repetitive out and out pace quite well with innovative shot selection.

 

[namefield_empty]

Pure pace is not of much relevance and is possibly even overrated, especially in short formats. Pure pace works when you know the batsman may well try to leave or defend, but the accuracy forces him to play, then he is too late because of the pace. This kind of set up works well in test matches. In ODI and T20, it is more about variations, slower balls and field placements, because you already know the batsman will be looking to attack the ball. Short format batsman have learned to handle repetitive out and out pace quite well with innovative shot selection.

I used to love watching Waqar running in to bowl before his back injury, when he used to clock 150, every delivery used to be an event in itself, we wouldn't care much for the results of the game. Speed thrills!

On the dead as a dodo pitches of England raw pace and full length becomes even more important, during the '99 world cup Shoaib found ways of getting reverse swing even on grassy wickets, remember the league match against Australia?

Bowlers of that caliber would have wreaked havoc on these dry pitches. If you look at the successful bowlers in this world cup, the likes of Ferguson, Starc, Archer, Bumrah, all of them are lightning quick.

In test matches you have medium fast bowlers like Philander, Mohammed Abbas and Hazlewood being very effective. Bottomline being, pace is an important prerequisite in one dayers in my opinion.

 

[Rusty]

This loon recently attacked Sarfraz for wearing shalwar kameez.

And for a Scottish MP (Karachi native) taking oath in Urdu (and Scottish):

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He called him an extremist and whatnot.

Nowaday the old khanzeer, is calling him an “indian” born in Pakistan.

you know how black people have "Uncle Tom" Chinese have "Uncle Chen" what is the desi version of that?
"Chaha Ji" ?

PDF should come up with a term and spread it to the world

 

[ziaulislam]

The guy is just a rabble rouser seeking attention. He reminds me of a Pak version of Arundhati Roy.

From a legal perspective - all religious and political displays are not allowed. That includes Sikh turbans and kadas, Hindu religious threads and Muslim beards and any other displays of religion, Christians wearing crosses etc.

ICC in its infinite stupidity has opened a Pandora's box and now will have to implement the letter of the law, else will be accused of selective implementation.

such a simple rhing that indians, so extremist European countries (with glorious history of genocides) dont understand
freedom of religious practice and political display are to different things

 

[Jackdaws]

Did TarekFatah read the ICC directive at all before proliferating his cancerous fake journalism? It pertains to clothing. No religious or political message can be delivered by way of clothing/kit worn. If anything, Indian and British Sikhs wearing turbans raises a question mark here. Pakistanis team offering namaz does not fall under the jurisdiction of this rule. Well done Fatah for coming across as yet another screaming saffron-clad banshee. Pakistan should sit back and let the Hindutva self-defeating PR brigade march on.


Beard is not clothing or equipment. Try again.

It's still a religious display. Not just the letter, but the spirit of the law must be upheld. So no outward religious displays.

 

[masterchief_mirza]

It's still a religious display. Not just the letter, but the spirit of the law must be upheld. So no outward religious displays.

Nope. Not buying that. A decent lawyer will make mincemeat out of your case. The law refers to clothing and kit. Show me a law of the game pertaining to religious beliefs per se or beards as a religious mark.

Also regarding spirit of the game; just how many players have been mankaded by Indian cricketers vs non-Indian cricketers again?

I used to love watching Waqar running in to bowl before his back injury, when he used to clock 150, every delivery used to be an event in itself, we wouldn't care much for the results of the game. Speed thrills!

On the dead as a dodo pitches of England raw pace and full length becomes even more important, during the '99 world cup Shoaib found ways of getting reverse swing even on grassy wickets, remember the league match against Australia?

Bowlers of that caliber would have wreaked havoc on these dry pitches. If you look at the successful bowlers in this world cup, the likes of Ferguson, Starc, Archer, Bumrah, all of them are lightning quick.

In test matches you have medium fast bowlers like Philander, Mohammed Abbas and Hazlewood being very effective. Bottomline being, pace is an important prerequisite in one dayers in my opinion.

Couple of things: 1999 was before T20 changed batting forever as an art. Now a bowler's extra pace without variation or late swing will be countered by inventive batsmen, of whom India has plenty. Ramp style shots and any shot that uses a bowler's pace against him are very effective short format shots. A couple of ramps will then force the bowler to go short, negating the impact extra pace may have had and risking a wide delivery. Secondly, the late swing was the key with Waqar and that set him apart from the likes of Brett Lee. Pace with late swing remains a potent weapon and it is always good to see that in the death overs.

 

[namefield_empty]

Now a bowler's extra pace without variation or late swing will be countered by inventive batsmen,

I agree, but the basics have remained the same. These dime a dozen T20 leagues have only diluted the value of peerless cricket. Earlier it was only the deserving ones that were drafted into the team, now a days every tom and harry find a presence on national television via these substandard leagues.

the late swing was the key with Waqar and that set him apart from the likes of Brett Lee. Pace with late swing remains a potent weapon

Yess! That remains the weapon of choice, those deadly toe crushers from Waqar and Wasim. But bowlers these days are busy perfecting their slower ones, knuckle balls and what not. And we wonder why can't the cricketing world find the next Waqar or Wasim.

As a corollary, bowling in that fashion puts enormous stress on the lower back, Waqar, Wasim, Imran had been stalled by back injuries in their careers, but they came back stronger each time. Brett Lee was somewhat blessed because he had a shoulder predominant action.

You look at the bowlers these days copying those legends, like Mitchell Starc, Rabada or Amir. Either they remain injured most of the time trying to bowl quick or they cut their pace like Amir. That's why i hold those bowlers who try to bowl fast in high esteem, only thing that makes a mundane game like cricket worth watching to me.

 

[Crystal-Clear]

From what little i know, sportsmen in India don't wear their religion on their sleeves, be it Muslims, Hindus or Christians. Can you prove otherwise?

harbajan?

 

[namefield_empty]

harbajan?

Are you a god damn psycho? Calling out Harbhajan now for what? His turban?

 

[SIPRA]

harbajan?

Not only Harbajan Singh, but all the Kesa Dhari Sikh players.