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Bro if you have been following my comments on here, i have been saying the same thing you said, yes China is a very late comer to the game(mainly due to Maos past policy of isoation and ideological fanaticism), and China since opening up has been catching up quite fater than most of us expected, but they still lag behind the west/U.S/Japan etc. However, some ultra nationalistic Chinese members here often said Britain is an insignificant island, that doesnt produce anything worthwhile and is irelevant. Some even said they are far more adavanced than Britain, while Britain is a second rate declining power, China is a world super power. Just read the thread one Chinese poster posted about China and the U.S dominating the world all others are useless. LOOl:rofl: Talk about ultra nationalists.:disagree:

I just want them to see reason and calm down. Always better to be down to earth and humble like the Japanese who are still the most developed/advanced country in Asia overall(the first to industrilaised in Asia by the way) even today but seldom boast this way. :bounce:
So your peeved at the Chinese here because a few Chinese members called Britain a insignificant island.:lol: Its OK you have the right to your nationalism like everyone else here. China is a late comer not only because of Mao's isolationist policies towards the outside world and not to mention his domestic policies like the Great Leap Forward and the Cultural Revolution. But it started much earlier China has been falling behind the West and later Japan since the 18th century. Despite Mao's many mistakes China was far more advanced in the 1970's that anytime in her history uptill then. But its true that had Mao not persue the policies he had then China would have been much better off today. That makes China's achievements of the past 36 years all the more remarkable. And people from China take pride in it. But I can guarantee you that the views from some of the Chinese members here is not the majority view in China or amongst the Chinese leaders. Most of us know we still have a long way to go.
 
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China is coming we like it we hate it that wont change a bit of the reality.

They making leap in electronics and software the backbone of any advancement in civil or military acheivements.

Britain no doubt a tale of the past yes it will stay a regional power but due to its been an island and small population it wont be any bigger or stronger.

Now and tomorrow the world will revolve around these nations:

1-USA
2-China
3-India
4-Russia
5-Brazil

these nations will be the sper powers of the next 2-3 decades.
 
Bro if you have been following my comments on here, i have been saying the same thing you said, yes China is a very late comer to the game(mainly due to Maos past policy of isoation and ideological fanaticism), and China since opening up has been catching up quite fater than most of us expected, but they still lag behind the west/U.S/Japan etc. However, some ultra nationalistic Chinese members here often said Britain is an insignificant island, that doesnt produce anything worthwhile and is irelevant. Some even said they are far more adavanced than Britain, while Britain is a second rate declining power, China is a world super power. Just read the thread one Chinese poster posted about China and the U.S dominating the world all others are useless. LOOl:rofl: Talk about ultra nationalists.:disagree:

I just want them to see reason and calm down. Always better to be down to earth and humble like the Japanese who are still the most developed/advanced country in Asia overall(the first to industrilaised in Asia by the way) even today but seldom boast this way. :bounce:
That's why I never like the cockroaches.

China is coming we like it we hate it that wont change a bit of the reality.

They making leap in electronics and software the backbone of any advancement in civil or military acheivements.

Britain no doubt a tale of the past yes it will stay a regional power but due to its been an island and small population it wont be any bigger or stronger.

Now and tomorrow the world will revolve around these nations:

1-USA
2-China
3-India
4-Russia
5-Brazil

these nations will be the sper powers of the next 2-3 decades.
You're right. you do have a very long long way to go Or go no where at all. Time will tell.
 
Phytium to detail 64-core ARMv8-A processor for HPC in August

May 1st, 2015 at 4:52 pm - Author Anton Shilov

The U.S. government recently banned sales of Xeon Phi co-processors for high-performance computing applications to numerous supercomputer sites in China, slowing down development of local research. But perhaps, China will not need any HPC chips from the world’s renowned suppliers in the future as domestic companies are developing a number of promising microprocessors.

Phytium, a startup processor developer from Guangdong, China, is working on a special 64-core central processing unit specifically designed for high-performance computing applications. The company is going to present the supercomputer chip at the Hot Chips technology conference in August, which indicates that the CPU is either ready and is about to be released, or its development is largely completed.

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Nothing particular is known about Phytium’s upcoming CPU. The company itself describes it as “a 64-core ARMv8 processor for HPC”, which essentially means that this is 64-bit with many cores. However, this product is not that simple. In fact, Phytium’s CPU appears to be a highly-custom supercomputer chip that contains a lot of truly innovative technologies developed in-house.

Modern ARM cores allow to build SMP [symmetric multiprocessing] quad-core clusters as well as create many-core chips featuring up to 12 coherent SMP processor clusters through CoreLink CCN, AMBA 5 CHI, AMBA 4 ACE as well as other technologies. The total number of cores within a modern ARMv8-A system-on-chip cannot exceed 48 units if the SoC designers uses off-the-shelf technologies designed by ARM. Developers, who plan to integrate more than 48 ARM Cortex-A57 or ARM Cortex-A72 chips, will have to design their own high-speed on-chip ring-bus communication and interconnection technologies that support higher amount of processing engines (which may involve redesign of SMP clusters and necessity to develop special commutators for every cluster, or a group of cores, depending on exact approach to design).
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An example of ARM-designed 48-core ARMv8-A microprocessor

Many-core chips also require sophisticated memory controllers and extreme memory bandwidth (i.e., they need to feature multiple controllers that can support high-speed memory). Such memory sub-systems are hard to design. ARM offers quite advanced DMC-520 controllers with enterprise-class class RAS (reliability, availability and serviceability) features such as ECC for x72 DRAM, TrustZone security and end to end Quality of Service (QoS). Unfortunately, the DMC-520 in the current implementation supports up to quad-channel DDR4 3.20GHz memory providing up to 102.4GB/s of bandwidth, which may not be enough for a 64-core HPC processor. It should be possible to install more than four DMC-520 controllers inside a chip, but it requires a lot of additional work. Developers of ARMv8-A-based processors for server and HPC applications, such as AMD or Cavium, use dual-channel or quad-channel memory controllers for their Opteron 1100A “Seattle” and ThunderX system-on-chips.

Apparently, Phytium has managed to design an advanced ring-bus interconnect technology, a custom L3 cache sub-system with snoop filter, a sophisticated memory sub-system and a lot of other unique things necessary for many-core microprocessors.

Unfortunately, nothing particular is known about the cores that Phytium plans to use inside its 64-core HPC chip. It is possible that the company will use off-the-shelf ARM cores, such as Cortex-A57, but it is also possible that the company has created a custom implementation of ARMv8 architecture. If the company is designing its chip for supercomputers, it has to be competitive against things like Intel Xeon Phi or Nvidia Tesla, hence, we are talking about ~0.5~1.0 TeraFLOPS-class double precision floating point performance per processor. It is, of course, possible that the chip will be slower because of architecture limitations or design trade-offs (power vs. throughput).

Phytium is not the only Chinese developer working on microprocessors for supercomputers. However, it will be the only CPU developer from China to present at this year’s Hot Chips conference. Since the symposium is about leading-edge technologies, it is logical to assume that Phytium is to unveil something very advanced.

Phytium is a part of Guangzhou Higher Education Mega Center, an area featured by higher education institutions, located on Xiaoguwei Island in Panyu District, Guangzhou, China.


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http://www.kitguru.net/components/cpu/anton-shilov/phytium-to-detail-64-core-armv8-a-processor-for-hpc-in-august/
 
Looks like the bad for intel are coming .They are no longer the monopolists. After the success of AMD processors now huawei is haunting them .
 
Looks like the bad for intel are coming .They are no longer the monopolists. After the success of AMD processors now huawei is haunting them .
That is why American is a petty and dumb idiot who instead of engaging Chinese ,use banning which only helps to build up China domestic capabilities which in turn will come to compete with them in future. Look at China military, the weapon ban helps domestic defence industries to be independence. While US weapons access to India allow India domestic industries to remain weak. It is proven :D
 
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The US ban sales of advanced technologies and high-tech equipments to China。

China is considering the enactment of a law which stipulates that once the techs in question are indigenously available,a ban on imports of the relevant US techs and equipments will automatically and immediately come into force。
 
China is considering the enactment of a law which stipulates that once the techs in question are indigenously available,a ban on imports of the relevant US techs and equipments will automatically and immediately come into force。

That's the most rational approach in order to support home companies and decrease reliance on key, foreign tech.

Good for national security, economy and the national power.
 
The US ban sales of advanced technologies and high-tech equipments to China。

China is considering the enactment of a law which stipulates that once the techs in question are indigenously available,a ban on imports of the relevant US techs and equipments will automatically and immediately come into force。

This will be the ultimate blow to the U.S. as they lose access to the biggest market which will be China.
 

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