Help needed to read Persian inscriptions.

[third eye]

The inscriptions on the spinel are in Persian are the names of Jahangir, Shah Jahan & Aurangzeb with possibly their dates of reign.

Can anyone help by identifying which is which ?

 

[AmirPatriot]

The dates are 1017, 1038 on one of them and 1070 on another. These are over 350 years old.

I can't confirm the inscriptions though they do appear to be correct. Maybe @raptor22 @Hack-Hook @mohammad45 could help.

 

[third eye]

The dates are 1017, 1038 on one of them and 1070 on another. These are over 350 years old.

I can't confirm the inscriptions though they do appear to be correct. Maybe @raptor22 @Hack-Hook @mohammad45 could help.

Thank You

I wonder if these dates( years) correspond to 1605-27,1628-58 & 1658 - 1707 AD ?

 

[Hack-Hook]

On two last one its written جهانگیر شاه کبیر 1017

On the first one its written 1038 الی صاحب قران
The one in middle I cant read for sure but it has a date of 1070 on it.

By the way you can't be sure they are fake or Authentic unless they have evaluated by an expert.

 

[livingdead]

Thank You

I wonder if these dates( years) correspond to 1605-27,1628-58 & 1658 - 1707 AD ?

just googled it, if it is fasli calendar then the year 1017 is 1610 AD.
1038 = 1631 AD
1070 = 1663 AD
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fasli_calendar

 

[Muhammed45]

View attachment 441203 View attachment 441204 View attachment 441210 View attachment 441211 The inscriptions on the spinel are in Persian are the names of Jahangir, Shah Jahan & Aurangzeb with possibly their dates of reign.

Can anyone help by identifying which is which ?


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Nice pics

They belong to Iran's Safavid era. Two of dates , 1017 and 1038, belongs to the time that Abbas the great (First Abbas) was king. The other date 1070 was from second Abbas' ruling time.

Words need confirmation of experts also being fake or authentic, but i have no doubt that they should be a result of good relations between Goorkanian (Mughals) and Safavids.

@Hack-Hook made good points.

 

[raptor22]

@AmirPatriot I think these are Qamari dates which are for 400 to 417 years ago.

Shah Jahan

صاحبقران ثانی شاه جهان 1038

Aurangzeb
عالمگیر شاه 1017

Akbar
شاه اکبر جهانگیر شاه 1017

 

[Muhammed45]

@AmirPatriot I think these are Qamari dates which are for 400 to 417 years ago.

Shah Jahan

صاحبقران ثانی شاه جهان 1038

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Aurangzeb
عالمگیر شاه 1017

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Akbar
شاه اکبر جهانگیر شاه 1017
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Were Mughals Persians?

 

[Max]

Were Mughals Persians?

Uzbek/Turkic but their court language was Persian, court language of Delhi Sultanate was Persian even before the Mughals conquered.

 

[Muhammed45]

Uzbek/Turkic but their court language was Persian, court language of Delhi Sultanate was Persian even before the Mughals conquered.

Bro, i am not a Persian. But didn't wonder so much, if Mughals are Persians :

A survey in Tabriz university was conducted, examining several thousand years old skulls and bones which in the end proved that Iranians belong to the same race with different languages. Even similarities were found about blood line of Egyptians/Iranians/Turkish/Afghans just look at that provided map, says it all. Languages and other few differences are results of wars and invasions.

Mughals with high possibility are from Persians. Their words, writings and historic symbols prove it, i guess.

 

[Max]

Mughals with high possibility are from Persians. Their words, writings and historic symbols prove it, i guess.

Turkic from Uzbekistan.

 

[Muhammed45]

Turkic from Uzbekistan.

That map involves Uzbekistan.

 

[Max]

Mughals with high possibility are from Persians. Their words, writings and historic symbols prove it, i guess.

No, go learn history. simple wikipedia search will tell you that they were Turks from Uzbekistan, its written in their own books like Baburnama aka Tuzk e Baburi.

 

[Muhammed45]

No, go learn history. simple wikipedia search will tell you that they were Turks from Uzbekistan, its written in their own books like Baburnama aka Tuzk e Baburi.

Maybe he was an other Iranian

By the by, better to end this discussion.

 

[Max]

Maybe he was an other Iranian

By the by, better to end this discussion.