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Hasina wants Islam as Bangladesh state religion

What makes you think, a state religion will make you a Islamic Republic?? Heck its still People's Republic of Bangladesh if you did not know then check with UN entry for the name of Bangladesh.
We have state bird called Duel, state fruit called Jackfruits, state animal tiger and so on. Does that make anybody to stop eating chicken or taste the mangoes.
Hasina should had erased that line which was included in the constitution with and evil intention and by those guys who I believe were the worst unislamic rulers ever ruled Bangladesh.

At the end AL did what it intended to do ro revive the four principle of state and constitution. nationalism,Secularism,democracy and socialism replacing Faith on Allah. Bangladesh does not have Faith on Alla now so you could cosider it a infidel country..

Read my post. Where did I equate Islam as our state religion with Islamic Republic of Bangladesh. BD will remain as it is now, a moderate Muslim country. Try to impose a Hindu brand of secularism, it will bring about more radicalism than now. The country will fall prey to the fanatics who will love to see AL takes a wrong decision.

By the way, why do you think AL has got the mandate to proclaim a SECULARISM in Bangladesh? It will have to seek authorization from the voters. Can you guys expect to get a majority on this point?

Why do you guys want a secular Bangladesh? Would you mind telling us the name of a country which is secular, except in proclamation? And if the population are not secular minded why it is necessary to incorporate such a meaningless word in the Constitution? We do not have to follow the bad Indian example where the people do not touch others of lower rung, yet their Constitution says they are secular. It is a hypocrisy.

Now, you can eat your lichis, mangoes and jackfruits to your heart's content if you come to Bangladesh.
 
If you want to talk about Bangladesh than talk about it only, do not bring India. Do what ever you want, highly Islamic or un-Islamic, its upto you. Do not start India... India in everything like you do. Another one started a thread with news about SAARC power grid and made heading Akhand Bharat. lol

So you don't share the Bengali view that India is responsible for Bangladesh's future as the second Atlantis ?
 
Sometimes I surprise how many nightmares you have about India! :lol: I am sure many times you wake up in the midnight shouting.... "India coming.... India coming... ohhh nooo". lol

Actually, his point is that the AL pretty much gets a lot of Indian support. Dipu Moni was basically placed there by India. Probably the worst foreign minister in the history of Bangladesh.

I know because she was my family's neighbor and vehemently opposes everything Pakistani. She even cursed at my dad for buying a Pakistani product.

Gotta love the crazy fantasy world of the AL, jeez...they are such a classic.

The AL are mindless egotistical freaks themselves. They really do not stand for any ideology. Not even Socialism.

AL == 'chor'
 
It is the spiritually weak you use religion as a shield for their weaknesses.

Not necessarily. You can not prove that if we want to see Moderate Muslim Bangladesh then we have feeble mind and less faith on our religious faith. We will want to see (simply as a Muslim) a Moderate Muslim Bangladesh is one thing, and we have our individual faith (more/less) on ourselves about religion is another thing.


@ thread.

1. At first there was no issue in BD
2. so we were a peaceful Moderate Muslim country
3. then some party wanted to make some issue to gain some benefits/ worked for foreign people
4. they have brought so-called secularism here (though I assume BD is almost secular country where people from every religion have equal right)
5. then naturally that new issue brought more division among Bangladeshis
6. then some people both in home and abroad have begun to think that they are fundamentalists ( all of them are not so) who are opposing so-called secularism in BD
7. Now Indian media is spreading that extremisms are growing in BD
8. Today BD is a threat for India in future (spread by Indian media)
9. But we know our country, before AL regime in this time, we never had seen such fictive extremist (just for opposing AL imposed secularism) in BD.
10. Now we are divided and in trouble,
 
Knowing the Bangladeshis I know/knew, I don't understand how Bangladesh could be anything other than Islamic.

Of course, the leadership is something else.
 
No necessarily. You can not prove that if we want to see Moderate Muslim Bangladesh then we have feeble mind and less faith on our religious faith. We will want to see (simply as a Muslim) a Moderate Muslim Bangladesh is one thing, and we have our individual faith (more/less) on ourselves about religion is another thing.


@ thread.

1. At first there was no issue in BD
2. so we were a peaceful Moderate Muslim country
3. then some party wanted to make some issue to gain some benefits/ worked for foreign people
4. they have brought so-called secularism here (though I assume BD is almost secular country where people from every religion have equal right)
5. then naturally that new issue brought more division among Bangladeshis
6. then some people both in home and abroad have begun to think that they are fundamentalists ( all of them are not so) who are opposing so-called secularism in BD
7. Now Indian media is spreading that extremisms are growing in BD
8. Today BD is a threat for India in future (spread by Indian media)
9. But we know our country, before AL regime in this time, we never had seen such fictive extremist (just for opposing AL imposed secularism) in BD.
10. Now we are divided and in trouble,

I am aware that BD is possibly the most moderate Muslim country. Not that it is pure than driven snow either.

Bangladesh's first Constitution was secular. If anyone played politics and sentiments, it is those who wanted to bring in Islam. Religion is a very powerful emotion and is the cause of all the troubles, like it or not.

If India was a Hindu State, then there would be total turmoil and we would have remained in the Stone Age. Thank heavens, better sense prevailed.

If you feel Hujis are not fundamentalists, then go ahead and nurture them. Can anyone stop you from doing so?

That apart, what has the Indian media got to do with it. I find nothing in the newspaper than one could call fanning anti Bangladeshi sentiment. In fact, none really cares about it except wishing that there is peace out there.

You are paranoid.

BD is a threat to India and the Indian media is promoting it? Look stay with the facts, this is not a Jokes Thread where one has to be comical!

A threat?

Totally laughable.

Only a people who are schizophrenic can be divided. If you are, then I presume there are good reasons!

By the way, do you really think that Bangladesh is a major player in international politics, trade or anything that the India media or India will concern itself with Bangladesh.

Don't you think that your projection of grandiose self importance is being a trifle vainglorious?
 
Knowing the Bangladeshis I know/knew, I don't understand how Bangladesh could be anything other than Islamic.

Of course, the leadership is something else.

Indeed.

And one wonders if these type of pious sentiments will ever reunite it with Pakistan!

Of course, the leadership is something else!

I personally feel that they should.
 
I am aware that BD is possibly the most moderate Muslim country. Not that it is pure than driven snow either.

Bangladesh's first Constitution was secular. If anyone played politics and sentiments, it is those who wanted to bring in Islam. Religion is a very powerful emotion and is the cause of all the troubles, like it or not.

Yes religion is a very powerful emotion, and it has given Bangladeshi Muslims a reason to be united more strongly somehow, where the common thing is we all are Bangladeshis and have respect to each other. And about troubles caused by religions: what troubles BD has faced in its life? We known about the incidences of religious riot in India. Has BD ever seen any such thing?



If India was a Hindu State, then there would be total turmoil and we would have remained in the Stone Age. Thank heavens, better sense prevailed.

-Well, if India is not Hindu state then why there is sill religious turmoil in some places, also has history of several big turmoils like Gujrat riot? And being Moderate Muslim Country we have no such records.
- WHy are you implying that we are remained in stone age. We know where cow pee is drunk! And where the record of marry between ............................and record of many more things.

If you feel Hujis are not fundamentalists, then go ahead and nurture them. Can anyone stop you from doing so?

I did not say anything on favor of Hujis. I just said the common people opposing AL's secularism are not fundamentalist.

That apart, what has the Indian media got to do with it. I find nothing in the newspaper than one could call fanning anti Bangladeshi sentiment. In fact, none really cares about it except wishing that there is peace out there.

You need to retake a course on India steadies, especially the Indian/"orange media propaganda chapter". Not written by Indians, lol.

You are paranoid.

You are definitely paranoid from India perspective.

BD is a threat to India and the Indian media is promoting it? Look stay with the facts, this is not a Jokes Thread where one has to be comical!

A threat?

Totally laughable.
Now stop laughing. That is what assumed by an Indian member in blue:

When I say Bangladesh is on its way to become a Islamic country, i mean, The hardcore fundamentalists, or I should say the practicing Muslims, are becoming stronger in Bangladesh, and over the period of time, when they would become the majority, it would become a hindrance to regional stability.

I hope Indians do realise this, that Bangladesh in the coming time, can become a pain for our security.
Original Post By metro
 
Skies,

I will reply later.

It is 0037 here.

Got to have dinner and watch the Purulia Arms Drop expose!

As far a pee drinking in India, have your read he Hadith?

Read and things will get revealed.

Must know your own religion, before you open your mouth and pretend to be a pious Muslim knowing the Quaran and Hadith by rote!
 
I am aware that BD is possibly the most moderate Muslim country. Not that it is pure than driven snow either.

Bangladesh's first Constitution was secular. If anyone played politics and sentiments, it is those who wanted to bring in Islam. Religion is a very powerful emotion and is the cause of all the troubles, like it or not.

If India was a Hindu State, then there would be total turmoil and we would have remained in the Stone Age. Thank heavens, better sense prevailed.

If you feel Hujis are not fundamentalists, then go ahead and nurture them. Can anyone stop you from doing so?

That apart, what has the Indian media got to do with it. I find nothing in the newspaper than one could call fanning anti Bangladeshi sentiment. In fact, none really cares about it except wishing that there is peace out there.

You are paranoid.

BD is a threat to India and the Indian media is promoting it? Look stay with the facts, this is not a Jokes Thread where one has to be comical!

A threat?

Totally laughable.

Only a people who are schizophrenic can be divided. If you are, then I presume there are good reasons!

By the way, do you really think that Bangladesh is a major player in international politics, trade or anything that the India media or India will concern itself with Bangladesh.

Don't you think that your projection of grandiose self importance is being a trifle vainglorious?

mmm...much of what you say makes sense and fair.

But lets admit it here, the only two things the keep India together are cricket and Bollywood for the most part. lol.
India has its divisions, both religious and non-religious.

Hujis are just...fire-crackers really. With some coordination and organization, they are not hard to beat.

What is clear is that the Hasina regime is doing is clearly making her own party and even India to some extent more antagonistic in the eyes of many Bangladeshis. I have even come to believe the woman has been living in a bubble for the past 40+ years since her father died.

India should get into ventures with private companies in Bangladesh. There are many success stories from that.
India's interests should not lie in what government is in charge in Bangladesh. Especially with that wretched woman and the current AL party members. If it is India's security, then it should only be security.
 
Wise decision by Hasina
If she scraped Islam as state religion
It would make her popular in the west
But then Awami League would suffer backlash in coming elections

It would make her enemy of Islam in the eyes of common Bangladeshi
20 Lakh strong BD Ulema society will scream rallying cry "Islam is in danger"
And call for Hasina's head
It would radicalize BD society and endanger security

Awami League should leave the constitution as it is
Starting with Bismillah, Islam as state religion
And concentrate on the economy
Our economy has been growing 6-7% for the last 4 years
No need to jeopardize it by stirring up religious tension
 
1) I am aware that BD is possibly the most moderate Muslim country. Not that it is pure than driven snow either.

2) Bangladesh's first Constitution was secular. If anyone played politics and sentiments, it is those who wanted to bring in Islam. Religion is a very powerful emotion and is the cause of all the troubles, like it or not.

3) If India was a Hindu State, then there would be total turmoil and we would have remained in the Stone Age. Thank heavens, better sense prevailed.

4) If you feel Hujis are not fundamentalists, then go ahead and nurture them. Can anyone stop you from doing so?

5)That apart, what has the Indian media got to do with it. I find nothing in the newspaper than one could call fanning anti Bangladeshi sentiment. In fact, none really cares about it except wishing that there is peace out there.

6) You are paranoid.

7) By the way, do you really think that Bangladesh is a major player in international politics, trade or anything that the India media or India will concern itself with Bangladesh.

8) Don't you think that your projection of grandiose self importance is being a trifle vainglorious?

Let me answer some of the points that you have raised in yoour post.

1) You are right about BD being a moderate Muslim country. It should stay that way.

2) Bangladesh's 1st Constitution was made secular. You have to understand which foreign country influenced this newly born and very weak country to incorporate this Clause. Certainly it was not China, Russia or USA. Your then Ambassador to BD may know why and how it happened.

This secularism was not acceptable to the population. It backfired on the face of Sk. Mujib and his mentor across the border. Unpopular Mujib was killed. But, even today many people do not try to really understand why there was such a violent reaction. Population and military establishment both saw him enemy of Islam and BD.

3) In case of BD, it was just opposite. Refer to 3) above.

4) Law enforcers cannot just enter the houses of Hujis and kill all of them. This could have been done during the secular time of Mujib. He formed a Rakkhi Bahini that killed anyone who was perceived as against the ruling party and its secularism.

No wonder, Mujib became so unpopular that very few Bangladeshis uttered at hearing his death, 'inna lillahe wa inna alihe rajeun.'

5) I have read many newspaper articles that want to keep the relationship between BD and Pakistan. They do not want an improved relationship by crying 1971. BD people do not have to hate Pakistan to love India. India must show a positive attitude instead of bullying and imposing an unbearable trade imbalance with BD. 6) People in BD are not paranoid, but they are disturbed by the attitude of India who tries to control Bd affairs through their paid proxies.

7) No, Bangladesh is not a major player in the international politics. But, if you consider our country's total area, you will see we are playing a much robust role in that field. An economically strong BD can certainly play a stronger role in the future.

8) BD people do not pretend to be super rich. This is how Indians project themselves. However, the entire world knows about the reality of the countries that exist in the entire south asia.

I must say, Indians should get rid of their false grandoise as if their life style is at par with the Bombay films.
 
I think, the decision by your Aunti has tremedously made you guys unhappy. But, she has saved the country from radicalization. A srcularism would have a very negative reaction among the population. it would have created more storms and the radicals would have recruited their kind more in number.

So, you should congratulate your pretty Aunti for taking a Statewoman-like decision. We will remain an Islamic country, but not a Taliban country, where people would always say, 'Islam Khatre me hain,' whereby they themselves are the cause of this danger. Pakistan's Zia like people will not be born in Bangladesh. We will remain a moderate Muslim country.

and once this lady not in office , BD will became Taliban country , coz few people always going to shout 'Islam Khatre me hain' for one reason or another..
 

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