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[zeus]

Project only started in 1993 and not in 1980 has claimed by some western media

1985: LCA launched with a time frame of 10 years after the Union cabinet sanctioned Rs 560 crore for the project in 1983. Aeronautical Development Agency to be the nodal agency.

1988: ADA prepares project definition phase (PDP) after consulting MBB, France, on some aspects.

1990: Air HQ finds PDP deficient in crucial parameters. Expert committee formed to resolve deadlock. It is agreed that two technology demonstration aircraft to be built before investments cleared for production.

1993: After three years of uncertainty, Phase 1 is sanctioned at a cost Rs 2,188 crore. Milestones include a roll out of first aircraft by 1995 and first flight by 1996.

1995: Roll out does happen but there are serious doubts as to whether the first flight would occur as major problems bedevil flight control systems as well as mastery over composites.

1998: With the aircraft far from ready, the US sanctions after Pokhran tests cause setbacks in flight control technologies and systems integration.

1999: Low speed and high speed taxi trials are done. But flight trials delayed because of minor fire caused by overheating valve near cockpit.

2001: First flight on January 4. More flights follow, including one on Feb 9 at Aero India 2001 [Bangalore, February 7 to 11]. It completes it's first block of tests on June 2.

 

[Adux]

Dont get emotional sir. its a fact that Thunder can get every IAF jet even MKI when its backed by AWACs or within country's space.


link please

So you are assuming Indian planes wont have AWACS

 

[Contrarian]

BTW LCA is a success or not, it was developed by India, the airframe was made in India. JF-17 on the other hand is just paid for by Pakistan. China made it. Ofcourse it will take India time, we could have bought some MiG 29's, opened up a licenced production line in India and called it Indian achievement, something that Pakistan has done with Jf-17.

webby, i hope you are satisfied with the number of Indian indegenous equipments in Tejas.

 

[EagleEyes]

So you are assuming Indian planes wont have AWACS

He is not assuming Indian planes will not have AWACs, he is just saying that MKI or any other aircraft will have its arse kicked by the Thunder regardless of so called superiority, and just on a note. MKI RCS will make it more vulerable to be detected by the AWACs while JF-17s radar will be off.

 

[EagleEyes]

zeus,

Great stuff. Thanks for sharing.

 

[con]

He is not assuming Indian planes will not have AWACs, he is just saying that MKI or any other aircraft will have its arse kicked by the Thunder regardless of so called superiority, and just on a note. MKI RCS will make it more vulerable to be detected by the AWACs while JF-17s radar will be off.

I am just wondering,what would be the area of operation for Pakistani AWACS? Will it possibly operate from Afghan airspace during hostilities?

If they confine in the Pakistani airspace itself,it will at severe disadvantage?

Is there any thread which discuss Pakistani Awacs operation?

 

[EagleEyes]

Area of operation is unknown, and pretty sure it will not have a fixed operation area. Afghanistan is unlikely, not necessary, and ineffective.

My guess is some where at the border, inside the enemy's territory etc..

Your welcome to discuss this here.

https://defence.pk/forums/showthread.php?t=1284

 

[con]

Area of operation is unknown, and pretty sure it will not have a fixed operation area. Afghanistan is unlikely, not necessary, and ineffective.

My guess is some where at the border, inside the enemy's territory etc..

Your welcome to discuss this here.

https://defence.pk/forums/showthread.php?t=1284

awacs will not be send into enemy airspace.It is too good a target to operate there,until unless there is atleast a theatre air superiority.

thanks for the link mate

 

[Contrarian]

He is not assuming Indian planes will not have AWACs, he is just saying that MKI or any other aircraft will have its arse kicked by the Thunder regardless of so called superiority, and just on a note. MKI RCS will make it more vulerable to be detected by the AWACs while JF-17s radar will be off.

Unfortunately, JF-17 will have to use its own radar to fire the missiles, and thats where things would change. Whats the point in having situational awareness when you cant use it effectively. And most fights will still be dogfights regardless of BVR capabilities, and there again JF-17 will lose. Weeby were you using the arguments of J-10, it was atleast understandable! Ur comparing a plane of 3rd generation, JF-17 is just a cheap plane to fill numbers man, let it be what it is.

 

[Adux]

Area of operation is unknown, and pretty sure it will not have a fixed operation area. Afghanistan is unlikely, not necessary, and ineffective.

My guess is some where at the border, inside the enemy's territory etc..

Your welcome to discuss this here.

https://defence.pk/forums/showthread.php?t=1284

AWACS in Enemy Territory, lol

 

[Keysersoze]

The AWACS will operate approx 100-150km behind the border. Pak has enough to overlap in its coverage of the whole country without difficulty.

 

[Adux]

I love it when Patriotism make lesser than Medicore weapons make them Superduper Weapon of Destruction, AkA JF-17 killing a Su-30MKI

 

[Keysersoze]

I love it when Patriotism make lesser than Medicore weapons make them Superduper Weapon of Destruction, AkA JF-17 killing a Su-30MKI

Medicore? to quote a phrase you are fond of.....got a link for that?

Since you don't like to pay attention you will note that the upgrades to the aircraft (second batch) have added an additional $10 million (approx) to the aircraft cost. It will have an AESA radar, BVR capability and full FBW. Oh and one important advantage......it's not testing anymore and is in production....

I love it when patriotism makes a platform invincible Aka MKI can't be touched....

 

[EagleEyes]

AWACS in Enemy Territory, lol

Whats so funny about that?

AEW&Cs are going to be in the Indian territory to even support the ground troops, receving data, and assigning missions.

 

[EagleEyes]

Unfortunately, JF-17 will have to use its own radar to fire the missiles, and thats where things would change. Whats the point in having situational awareness when you cant use it effectively. And most fights will still be dogfights regardless of BVR capabilities, and there again JF-17 will lose. Weeby were you using the arguments of J-10, it was atleast understandable! Ur comparing a plane of 3rd generation, JF-17 is just a cheap plane to fill numbers man, let it be what it is.

Why do we have to sing the song of arrogance again and again? JF-17 is not a 3rd generation fighter. Who says that JF-17 cant use the situational awareness effectively? Why would JF-17 lose in a dog fight? Because you want to?