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The recent controversy in the Indian media and parliament about mass conversions of around 55 Muslim families to Hinduism has peeled away deep layers off Indian politics. It reflects on the manner in which Indian politics is shaping up after the BJP and its close associates ascended to power. During a debate, an Indian minister, Venkaiah Naidu, tried to assuage public sentiment while alluding to India’s anti-conversion laws and some court rulings that have taken a firm view on the subject. The minister, in the same breath, however, eulogised the RSS, the BJP’s mother organisation, which is at present giving tacit support to its active associates like the Vishva Hindu Parishad (VHP) and the Bajrang Dal that are spearheading the controversial conversion campaign. The mass conversion in Agra recently saw Muslims converting to Hinduism in a proper ceremony before the electronic and print media. They had worked as rag-pickers, and it is being claimed that their forefathers had converted to Islam.

The move in Agra was sponsored by the Bajrang Dal, a militant right wing organisation that forms the youth wing of the VHP, an extremist outfit. One of the goals of these organisations has been to build the Ram Janambhoomi temple in Ayodhya, a disputed site between Hindus and Muslims. Another key objective has been to preserve and promote India’s Hindu identity and to put a check on Muslim demographic growth and conversions to Christianity. The Bajrang Dal also has a tainted history of involvement in the Gujarat riots of 2002. It had been reportedly responsible for attacking Christians in Orissa and Karnataka.

To the protagonists of this move, these conversions are nothing more than the ‘ghar wapsi’ of those who were once lured by an ‘alien faith’ and this is, at best, a reconversion on voluntary basis. This lobby strongly feels that it is an opportune time to reassert India’s Hindu identity. There has also been mass conversion of around 200 Christians in Gujarat on December 20. These conversions are a well-thought-out move by those who are now controlling the political levers to give new meaning to the national narrative in India and give more space and reasoning to achieve the ultimate goals of Hindutva. Supporters of the conversion lobby view Christianity and Islam as outsider faiths, while Jainism, Buddhism and Sikhism are treated as indigenous religions with a different threshold of tolerance and acceptance. The VHP, for instance, treats Buddhism, Jainism and Sikhism as parts of the greater Hindu fraternity, being faiths of Indian origin. This is indeed an interesting debate, which is now seeing its physical manifestation in a society that claims to have secular credentials. Buddhism sprang from India and has spread to nooks and corners of the Far East and China. However, it lost ground in its home country and like Jainism, is mostly confined to monasteries in India. Similarly, Sikhism is now mainly confined to Punjab alone.

The Bajrang Dal and the VHP draw support and sustenance from their mother organisation, the RSS, which trains its cadres through a strict regime of disciplines. It is an ideology-based organisation, which was founded some nine decades ago and has moved into the areas of charity and education in a big way. It has a very close nexus with India’s politics. During the Indian general elections, the RSS cadres, for instance, were closely involved with the selection process of BJP candidates. This had been on account of a historical connect between both organisations. During the Rath Yatra, for instance, the Rath traversed through many states before reaching Ayodhya, which resulted in the demolition of the Babri Mosque and triggered bloody communal riots. Organisational matters of the Rath in Gujarat were closely supervised by Narendra Modi himself.

The history of the spread of Islam in India makes for an interesting study. The impression is that it was on account of conquest and an element of coercion that the faith spread in India. Conquest did set the stage for a realisation regarding the discriminatory caste-ridden social order prevalent in India, which helped clusters of the indigenous population to gravitate towards the new faith. In the case of Christianity, it spread on account of economic opportunities and better educational prospects as missionary institutions took the lead in these areas. In the case of Islam, the role of sufis and dargahs cannot be glossed over whose message had a far deeper appeal than the singular phenomenon of conquest and takeover. The great Muslim saint, Hazrat Bahauddin Zakaria of Multan, for instance, preached the new faith for years under the shadows of the Prahladpuri Hindu temple. There are umpteen such examples. Muslim rulers, barring some exceptions, were benign in their religious dispensation and by and large secular in their outlook. They not only brought in new ideas and practices to Indian society but also imbibed the richness of the indigenous mosaic.

The Indian Constitution guarantees freedom of religion and its propagation. But mass conversions in the glare of the media cast a doubt on their voluntary nature. The prior announcements of venues and the numbers expected to convert give the clear impression that the element of voluntary acceptance to convert is missing.

While Narendra Modi may be pushing for development and greater connectivity with the world, he is also depending on the street and cerebral powers of fundamentalist outfits for more political space. These outfits pose a palpable threat to Indian inclusiveness. Much depends on how Modi grapples with such controversial and orchestrated moves. There are voices that are eulogising Nathuram Godse, Mahatam Gandhi’s assassin, and are seeing the Indian population through the lens of “Ramzadas” and “Haramzadas” as put by a BJP politician recently. Lukewarm disapprovals of such acts are no substitutes for outright condemnations and disassociations from them.

Published in The Express Tribune, December 30th, 2014.
‘Ghar wapsi’: Politics of conversion – The Express Tribune

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The recent controversy in the Indian media and parliament about mass conversions of around 55 Muslim families to Hinduism has peeled away deep layers off Indian politics. It reflects on the manner in which Indian politics is shaping up after the BJP and its close associates ascended to power. During a debate, an Indian minister, Venkaiah Naidu, tried to assuage public sentiment while alluding to India’s anti-conversion laws and some court rulings that have taken a firm view on the subject. The minister, in the same breath, however, eulogised the RSS, the BJP’s mother organisation, which is at present giving tacit support to its active associates like the Vishva Hindu Parishad (VHP) and the Bajrang Dal that are spearheading the controversial conversion campaign. The mass conversion in Agra recently saw Muslims converting to Hinduism in a proper ceremony before the electronic and print media. They had worked as rag-pickers, and it is being claimed that their forefathers had converted to Islam.

The move in Agra was sponsored by the Bajrang Dal, a militant right wing organisation that forms the youth wing of the VHP, an extremist outfit. One of the goals of these organisations has been to build the Ram Janambhoomi temple in Ayodhya, a disputed site between Hindus and Muslims. Another key objective has been to preserve and promote India’s Hindu identity and to put a check on Muslim demographic growth and conversions to Christianity. The Bajrang Dal also has a tainted history of involvement in the Gujarat riots of 2002. It had been reportedly responsible for attacking Christians in Orissa and Karnataka.

To the protagonists of this move, these conversions are nothing more than the ‘ghar wapsi’ of those who were once lured by an ‘alien faith’ and this is, at best, a reconversion on voluntary basis. This lobby strongly feels that it is an opportune time to reassert India’s Hindu identity. There has also been mass conversion of around 200 Christians in Gujarat on December 20. These conversions are a well-thought-out move by those who are now controlling the political levers to give new meaning to the national narrative in India and give more space and reasoning to achieve the ultimate goals of Hindutva. Supporters of the conversion lobby view Christianity and Islam as outsider faiths, while Jainism, Buddhism and Sikhism are treated as indigenous religions with a different threshold of tolerance and acceptance. The VHP, for instance, treats Buddhism, Jainism and Sikhism as parts of the greater Hindu fraternity, being faiths of Indian origin. This is indeed an interesting debate, which is now seeing its physical manifestation in a society that claims to have secular credentials. Buddhism sprang from India and has spread to nooks and corners of the Far East and China. However, it lost ground in its home country and like Jainism, is mostly confined to monasteries in India. Similarly, Sikhism is now mainly confined to Punjab alone.

The Bajrang Dal and the VHP draw support and sustenance from their mother organisation, the RSS, which trains its cadres through a strict regime of disciplines. It is an ideology-based organisation, which was founded some nine decades ago and has moved into the areas of charity and education in a big way. It has a very close nexus with India’s politics. During the Indian general elections, the RSS cadres, for instance, were closely involved with the selection process of BJP candidates. This had been on account of a historical connect between both organisations. During the Rath Yatra, for instance, the Rath traversed through many states before reaching Ayodhya, which resulted in the demolition of the Babri Mosque and triggered bloody communal riots. Organisational matters of the Rath in Gujarat were closely supervised by Narendra Modi himself.

The history of the spread of Islam in India makes for an interesting study. The impression is that it was on account of conquest and an element of coercion that the faith spread in India. Conquest did set the stage for a realisation regarding the discriminatory caste-ridden social order prevalent in India, which helped clusters of the indigenous population to gravitate towards the new faith. In the case of Christianity, it spread on account of economic opportunities and better educational prospects as missionary institutions took the lead in these areas. In the case of Islam, the role of sufis and dargahs cannot be glossed over whose message had a far deeper appeal than the singular phenomenon of conquest and takeover. The great Muslim saint, Hazrat Bahauddin Zakaria of Multan, for instance, preached the new faith for years under the shadows of the Prahladpuri Hindu temple. There are umpteen such examples. Muslim rulers, barring some exceptions, were benign in their religious dispensation and by and large secular in their outlook. They not only brought in new ideas and practices to Indian society but also imbibed the richness of the indigenous mosaic.

The Indian Constitution guarantees freedom of religion and its propagation. But mass conversions in the glare of the media cast a doubt on their voluntary nature. The prior announcements of venues and the numbers expected to convert give the clear impression that the element of voluntary acceptance to convert is missing.

While Narendra Modi may be pushing for development and greater connectivity with the world, he is also depending on the street and cerebral powers of fundamentalist outfits for more political space. These outfits pose a palpable threat to Indian inclusiveness. Much depends on how Modi grapples with such controversial and orchestrated moves. There are voices that are eulogising Nathuram Godse, Mahatam Gandhi’s assassin, and are seeing the Indian population through the lens of “Ramzadas” and “Haramzadas” as put by a BJP politician recently. Lukewarm disapprovals of such acts are no substitutes for outright condemnations and disassociations from them.

Published in The Express Tribune, December 30th, 2014.
‘Ghar wapsi’: Politics of conversion – The Express Tribune

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Hindus should be converted to other faiths.
Conversion into Hinduism is controversial and disgusting.

- This is the general narrative in India.

Pakistanis are far more tolerant of Hinduism than many of our own people!
 
Norwegian sahib

aap ki ghar wapsi kub hai?

When are you returning to your true roots.
He is right now at his ghar and chatting away to glory with his frens.
Lolzz

back on topic...
Sorry i didnt read the complete article but just the part put in BOLD.

One, I dont understand why do these hindutvawadis 've to shout at the top of their voice on loudspeakers while converting ppl?? cant they do it quietly???
Either they 're dumb or just trying the tit for tat formula.

Two, what many here dont understand is that hinduism had its share of evils and ergo many from the lower castes and poorer families decided to convert to Islam and Christianity.

Three, if its true that hindus were not lured into conversion then why is it so that many dont convert to Buddhism?? its the most peaceful (relatively) religion so to say. So yeah some of the theories regarding conversion by coercion could be true.
 
He is right now at his ghar and chatting away to glory with his frens.
Lolzz

back on topic...
Sorry i didnt read the complete article but just the part put in BOLD.

One, I dont understand why do these hindutvawadis 've to shout at the top of their voice on loudspeakers while converting ppl?? cant they do it quietly???
Either they 're dumb or just trying the tit for tat formula.
Most are from rural areas with no exposure to the media. Show them a camera and they bare their teeth in glee! :hitwall: No loudspeakers were used by the DJS in Agra anyway. :) The Deobandis came with that, and that too much later. They later fought the Barelvis who also found time to come. :D The media jumped in joy. :tup:
 
Hindus need to roll over and die, I think that would please the Indian Secular liberal brigade.
That is the exact comment by Sri Aurobindo, when asked that Hindus should tone down their religiousity, he said that Hindus should then stop being Hindus. :D
A similar statement was echoed in New Delhi, at JNU as the right to adult franchise should be re-evaluated (for Hindus) after Modi was elected to power. :enjoy:
 
Most are from rural areas with no exposure to the media. Show them a camera and they bare their teeth in glee! :hitwall: No loudspeakers were used by the DJS in Agra anyway. :) The Deobandis came with that, and that too much later. They later fought the Barelvis who also found time to come. :D The media jumped in joy. :tup:
I meant these BD guys 've declared they 've a target and that they would achieve such and such number in a stipulated time. Come on!!!
They behave like aggressive corporate houses.
Did they forget they should indulge in some poli-tricks?? :lol:
 
That is the exact comment by Sri Aurobindo, when asked that Hindus should tone down their religiousity, he said that Hindus should then stop being Hindus. :D
A similar statement was echoed in New Delhi, at JNU as the right to adult franchise should be re-evaluated (for Hindus) after Modi was elected to power. :enjoy:
Next nobel for peace (secularism) should be awarded to JNU.
 
I meant these BD guys 've declared they 've a target and that they would achieve such and such number in a stipulated time. Come on!!!
They behave like aggressive corporate houses.
Did they forget they should indulge in some poli-tricks?? :lol:
They did not. One person did, and it was not ratified by any leadership (that is assuming they have a proper hierarchy)
BD is a chaotic group, with good interest, but wrong implementation. And yes, declaring intent is very un-Chanakya and un-baniya. :tsk: They need to adopt dishonesty, like I have done. Honestly, it makes a huge difference. :tup: :D

And I will admit, they have goons.
 
I salute to hyper activism if our pseudo secular brigade, when other do conversion thru allurement it did not make into headlines of any paper/electronic media but when same is being done by Hindus it is labelled as forceful/rightist act though I have not read entire OP ..
 
The Indian Constitution guarantees freedom of religion and its propagation. But mass conversions in the glare of the media cast a doubt on their voluntary nature.
Isn't it the other way round? Something done in full view of the nation, with complete media access, is likely to be truly volunatry and uncoerced? Wouldn't a clandetine ceremony be logically more likely to be a coerced one?

That is the exact comment by Sri Aurobindo, when asked that Hindus should tone down their religiousity, he said that Hindus should then stop being Hindus. :D
A similar statement was echoed in New Delhi, at JNU as the right to adult franchise should be re-evaluated (for Hindus) after Modi was elected to power. :enjoy:

By whom? Link? From what I can remember, it was Subrahmanian Swamy who made some statements about disencfranchising people, and he wanted that to be applied to muslims.
 
Similarly, Sikhism is now mainly confined to Punjab alone.
Now? As opposed to when before? Sikhism has always been largely confined to Punjab and Haryana of present day India. It also thrived in parts of Pakistna before partition, but if it could not thrive after independecne, and vanished from Pak, that's not our fault, is it?
 

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