Fake Degrees Scandal

[WAQAS119]

The sad thing about this whole sorry affair is that this country desperately needs an assembly to complete its whole term, just for democracy to take root and for people to get used to democratic rules and traditions.

Unfortunately its looking impossible at the moment. I don't see this government completing its term.

What do you mean by 'looking impossible'??
For you, keeping these corrupt people in Assembly is democracy?

If these are going home (InshaAllah), new people with a clean background can come. Isn't this democracy for you?

 

[fatman17]

Oh GOD!!!!!! These politicians are gone mad. Even public of Pakistan is sleeping..
I am really worried about this nation.

Even MQM is trying to fool Pakistani people by abstaining and allowing this resolution to pass.

aray bhai, they have fake degrees also!!! do i need to spell it out to you - they r all in the same 'hammam'

 

[devil'sadvocate]

What do you mean by 'looking impossible'??
For you, keeping these corrupt people in Assembly is democracy?

If these are going home (InshaAllah), new people with a clean background can come. Isn't this democracy for you?

What i meant was that its sad that we have the dishonest morons in the assembly instead of honest people, and because of it, another assembly wouldn't be completing its full term.

Also, it would also allow Zardari and co to escape as martyrs and play the Sindh card, something that wouldn't be able to do if they completed a full term.

 

[graphican]

59 views and no comments - shows how we have accepted the 'status quo'!

Have faith.

 

[fatman17]

Have faith.

right !!!

 

[Tayyab1796]

I was so shocked to hear that this guy (Babar Haiwan) used to deliver lectures about Quran on PTV sometime ago ... I am speechless at how crrupt that person morally is .
Even if whole National assembly goes all fraudsters and cheats should not only be disqualified rather they should be send to Mach Jail ( Adiyala has some VIP jails as well but Mach is a notorios prison ) . Anybody who can fraud and have 'fake degree' lacks character and because they submit affidevit with their nomination papers that they swear by ALLAH ALMIGHTY that their documents are genuine so they break their oaths , you can imagine what regard a person of such character would give to the promises made to people . Simply put a 'fake degree' holder can do any corruption , break promises , rig elections , engage in immoral conduct etc. SO LOCK THEM ALL IN MACH JAIL and throw the keys in River Indus .

 

[alibaz]

We deserve more kicking till the time we keep electing the shameless, dishonest, corrupt, illiterate, cheats, robbers and liers as our representatives. Look at them how shamelessly they are trying to defend cheats. I think they all should go home and people should be given another opportunity to elect their representatives.

 

[sparklingway]

We deserve more kicking till the time we keep electing the shameless, dishonest, corrupt, illiterate, cheats, robbers and liers as our representatives. Look at them how shamelessly they are trying to defend cheats. I think they all should go home and people should be given another opportunity to elect their representatives.

Courts are handling the case aptly aren't they?

Competent, visionary and articulate leaders don't emerge suddenly. You don't grow parliamentarians when there are no parliaments and there is no progressive political debate or culture within the society.

Democracy is not an end, but a means to an end.

Only after a continuous process of democratic governance, where citizens play their part and seek accountability and demand better governance, can we look forward to an economically, socially and politically progressive society.

 

[alibaz]

Courts are handling the case aptly aren't they?

This is the problem whatever courts do government is countering those shamelessly either by awarding pardon or by creating hindrance in processing of cases. So there seems to be no end. And by the way the court doesnt have a very good track. You know it and I dont want to go in its details. I think we only need one Mahateer, only one right person is required who can be followed by this nation. I am sure this system in vogue cannot produce one.

 

[sparklingway]

This is the problem whatever courts do government is countering those shamelessly either by awarding pardon or by creating hindrance in processing of cases. So there seems to be no end. And by the way the court doesnt have a very good track. You know it and I dont want to go in its details.

This crappy story was published by The News only. Had there been a bill on the cards, it would have been given coverage by others as well.

Of course, there might be some back-door efforts being carried out but it is clear that the courts are having their way, the NA Standing Committee on Education was the one responsible for initiating the whole check-all-the-degrees decision, something all of you have forgotten and the general populace will of course forget in their hatred of the elected parliament. The News has been printing stories about HEC being pressurized, they deny it, no other paper publishes it. The NA Standing Committee itself is overseeing the whole process, the SC is trying to take the limelight here though based on a number of cases that were filed.

There hasn't been any major procedural blockade in the whole process as of now. Otherwise the NA Standing Committee would not have ordered checking the degrees of all parliamentarians, the decision would not have been followed by the ECP and the degrees would not have been acquired by the ECP through request and sent to the HEC foe verification which has already sent it out to varsities for verification. A number of the guilty ones have started resigning already.

Civil prosecution awaits them, that will be deal by the SC in the later part of the month.

The court's track record has no relevance whatsoever here. Don't bring that all-corrupt crap.

I think we only need one Mahateer, only one right person is required who can be followed by this nation. I am sure this system in vogue cannot produce one.

Again, the focus on personalities not policies. The dreams of uber-angelic leader or the oxymoronic benevolent dictator have ruined progressive political debate. This obsession with figures will lead us no where. We need progressive policies that require public intellectual debate, not a mythical hero to guide us.

 

[alibaz]

This crappy story was published by The News only. Had there been a bill on the cards, it would have been given coverage by others as well.

Of course, there might be some back-door efforts being carried out but it is clear that the courts are having their way, the NA Standing Committee on Education was the one responsible for initiating the whole check-all-the-degrees decision, something all of you have forgotten and the general populace will of course forget in their hatred of the elected parliament. The News has been printing stories about HEC being pressurized, they deny it, no other paper publishes it. The NA Standing Committee itself is overseeing the whole process, the SC is trying to take the limelight here though based on a number of cases that were filed.

There hasn't been any major procedural blockade in the whole process as of now. Otherwise the NA Standing Committee would not have ordered checking the degrees of all parliamentarians, the decision would not have been followed by the ECP and the degrees would not have been acquired by the ECP through request and sent to the HEC foe verification which has already sent it out to varsities for verification. A number of the guilty ones have started resigning already.

Civil prosecution awaits them, that will be deal by the SC in the later part of the month.

Dunya TVHasb-e-Haal(Conversation about fake degrees, news analysis)

Sir its not only the news, others are also talking about it. I hope this video addresses some other points in your mail


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[Spring Onion]

Degree of PML-Q MPA Samina Khawar proved fake

ISLAMABAD: The graduation degree of Punjab Assembly legislator belonging to PML-Q, Samina Khawar Hayat proved bogus, sources told Geo News Wednesday.

According to the sources, she submitted the BBA degree of Riphah International University and claimed to have received it in 2004 while the said university was established in 2005.



bwahahahah liar bhangee MNAs

 

[ejaz007]

PML-Q MPA’s degree found bogus

LAHORE: Riphah International University on Tuesday declared fake the degree of PML-Q MPA Samina Khawar Hayat, while the University of Engineering and Technology cleared the degrees of eight parliamentarians, sent to it by the Higher Education Commission for verification. Riphah University said the stamp and details of Samina’s BBA degree were fake. According to sources, the university had been set up in 2005, while Samina possesses a BBA degree of 2004. Meanwhile, UET sent back to the HEC, the degrees of eight lawmakers, including Senator Muhammad Hamayoun from Balochistan, MNAs Sheraz Mahmood and Shaukatullah Khan, MPAs Salman Rafique, Shahzad Elahi, Raja Qamarul Islam, Sardar Amir Talal and Javaid Dhillon. According to the university spokesman, the committee constituted by UET was satisfied about the degrees sent to it. Meanwhile, Karachi University cleared the degrees sent to it, however it objected to the bachelor’s degree of Yaqub Bizenjo, an MPA from Balochistan. A private TV channel quoted KU sources as saying that Bizenjo’s degree case is currently being heard in the Balochistan High Court. staff report/daily times monitor

Daily Times - Leading News Resource of Pakistan

 

[ejaz007]

Degrees of five lawmakers found fake

PESHAWAR/ISLAMABAD/ LAHORE: During the ongoing fake degrees scandal, Bahauddin Zikria University and the University of Peshawar on Wednesday declared degrees of five parliamentarians fake.

The BZU found the degrees of PML-N MNA Salman Mohsin, PPP MPA Waseem Afzal fake and Senator Akbar Magsi fake, according to a private TV channel.

Sources said BZU has no record of the roll number mentioned on Mohsin’s result card, while it was found that Afzal had failed the English exam.

Also on Wednesday, UoP declared the bachelor’s degrees of two PPP lawmakers bogus.

An official familiar with the degrees’ verification process at UoP told Daily Times that the degrees of an MNA from Bajaur Agency, Akhunzada Chitan, and an MPA, Safina Saima, had been found fake. He said the process of verification was complete and degrees of the rest of the parliamentarians had been found genuine.

Meanwhile, the Balochistan University received at least 60 degrees of lawmakers for verification. The university administration has established a committee comprising members of the Balochistan Assembly to verify the degrees. akhtar amin/app/ daily times monitor

Daily Times - Leading News Resource of Pakistan

 

[sparklingway]

Episode nearing climax​

Friday, July 09, 2010

By Usman Manzoor

ISLAMABAD: The MPs fake degrees episode is approaching its climax as the universities have started submitting their reports after verification and according to these reports available with the News a federal minister, an MNA, two senators and scores of MPAs have degrees from non-recognized universities.

The media and the National Assembly Standing Committee on Education is being severely criticized by alland sundry for exposing the fake degree holders sitting in the Parliament and many members of the Punjab Assembly on Wednesday termed it an anti-democratic exercise.

According to the reports of universities and the Higher Education Commission (HEC), Federal Minister for Live Stock and Dairy Development Mir Hamayun Aziz Kurd has a Bachelor of Business Administration degree in Marketing from Eire International University. The degree was obtained on 15 July 1999. This is a non-charted university and its degree is not acceptable in Pakistan.

Similarly Mir Israrullah Khan (Senator) has a BBA degree from International University of America (London) obtained on 17 December 2004; Shama Parveen Magsi (MPA Balochistan) has a BBA degree from International University of America (London) obtained on 26-08-2005 and Rubina Zafar (MPA Balochistan) has a BBA degree from Mitech Institute of Management & Information Technology, Lahore obtained on 23 June 1999. All these are non-charted universities.

The Winona State University, USA (recognized University of the USA) has confirmed that the degree being held by Mazhar Hayat, MNA as fake. Mazhar Hayat claims to be a graduate of science from Winona State University.

The list of parliamentarians holding Deeni Asnad from Non-recognised Deeni Institutes includes Syed Jawaid Hussain (MNA) claims that he has passed Almiya course from Dhandi Azeem Adad Bannu in 1415 AH; Wali Muhammad (Senator), Jamia Anwar ul Uloom Sukkar in 1423 AH; Abdul Samad (MPA Balochistan Assembly), Ittehad ul Madaris in 1424 AH; Abdul Qayyum Khan (MPA KP), Ittehad ul Madaris in 1426 AH and Gulistan Khan (MPA KP) Dhandi Azeem Abad Bannu in 1415 AH.

Similarly the degrees of Syed Salman Mohsin Gilani (MNA) claiming to be a graduate from Bahauddin Zakariya University; Waseem Afzal Gondal (MPA) a graduate from Bahauddin Zakariya university and Samina Khawar Hayat (MPA) having BBA from Riphah International University have been declared fake. While Shah Adbul Latif University has cancelled the degree of Nawabzada Muhammad Akber (Senator) vide notification No PA/CE/SALU/KHP/408 dated 7-7-2010.

It is worth mentioning here that the Supreme Court in its recent judgment in Rizwan Gill’s case has laid down that the Election Commission of Pakistan should proceed against all the fake degree holders sitting in the Parliament and should send their cases to the District and Sessions Judges.