Discovery Channel reveals what it takes To Be in the Indian Army's Premier Strike Force

[Local_Legend]

Saw it . In the opening they shown a soldier moves foreword hanging on the hinges with the fingertips . Many of us who practiced finger push ups Knows the pain or strengths to do that.

It was a solid statement. Politicians might be the persons who makes the call . But whatever it is , these guys are ready. Another reason why proxy war is on ! Face to face combat ? Seriously ???

Happy Independence Day . Bring it on ... India gonna be here for a while .

 

[Śakra]

This is why the US Army Special Forces sees themselves as the only true 'special forces' unit in the entire US military, not just the Army. Supposedly, proficiency in at least one non-English language is required, and that it takes longer to train a SF trooper than to train a fighter pilot. Medical training for SF medics is on a par of that an emergency room doctor, so to call them 'medics' is actually demeaning. The US Army SF units do not have operations but missions.

This is very interesting. Does any other country's SF include a doctor rather than your regular soldier with basic medical training?

Although we lack Single command Like Single command Like USSOCOM or SOCOM)

They are working on it

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/...tles-in-space-on-web/articleshow/49399708.cms

I watched it today. It was pretty impressive.

Post link in HD

 

[RepublicOk]

Post link in HD

I watched it on TV. And I can't seem to find a link for the full video. Trailers are there on Youtube. There is gonna be a repeat telecast on Discovery at 9am today.

 

[Crixus]

Some time back there was documentary on SriLankan LRRP those were selected from Special forces .... they played a great role in eliminating LTTEs top leadership .... they are also pretty impressive @Gibbs

The main difference between PARA (SF) and Garud/MARCOs selection/training is that PARA (SF) only recruit from active duty soldiers who have to be reccommended by their COs to be sent for selection in the first place meaning that PARA (SF) recruits will already have undergone extensive screening and training before they even get to the SF selection test.

The Garuds and MARCOs recruit civlians from the street so their selection and training phases are quite a bit longer as they need to weed out the very weakest and impart basic soldiering skills to the recruits before even begining the advanced training for SF.

IIRC the Garuds have the longest training/selection regime of any Indian SF (around 3 years in total) purely because civilians can apply directly to join this unit- with the PARA (SF) this is not an option.

It is a very similar situation with the US Army SF (Green Berets) where they only recruit from other army units but SEALs and USAF SF recruits can be civilians right off the street. It is this reason (I have heard) that many US army units prefer to work with the Green Berets and CAG (Delta force) rather than the SEALs or Marine SF as the former have basic soldiering experience under their belts (many would have served in the infantry).

 

[gambit]

This is very interesting. Does any other country's SF include a doctor rather than your regular soldier with basic medical training?

The training is EQUIVALENT to that of an emergency room doctor. I doubt if the specialist himself is certified by any civilian standards as a full fledged doctor. Just that the medical training is more intensive than the average medic.

 

[jhungary]

The training is EQUIVALENT to that of an emergency room doctor. I doubt if the specialist himself is certified by any civilian standards as a full fledged doctor. Just that the medical training is more intensive than the average medic.

SF Army Medic is train to deal with trauma injuries, they can perform life-saving field operation (like open chest or even open head surgery) but they are not doctor in this end as they have no/limited training in anatomy and no knowledge of internal medicine. They cannot perform surgery in a hospital, they can, however, assist with a Full MD guidance.

The best Comparison is Physician Assistant with a fully certified Paramedic Training.

Field Medic usually have the same certificate as a EMT or Paramedic depending on your Q and deployment.

 

[gambit]

SF Army Medic is train to deal with trauma injuries, they can perform life-saving field operation (like open chest or even open head surgery) but they are not doctor in this end as they have no/limited training in anatomy and no knowledge of internal medicine. They cannot perform surgery in a hospital, they can, however, assist with a Full MD guidance.

The best Comparison is Physician Assistant with a fully certified Paramedic Training.

Field Medic usually have the same certificate as a EMT or Paramedic depending on your Q and deployment.

The gist I got from our PJs at MacDill was that they were impressed with the SF 'medics' at how much they were trained and how knowledgeable.

 

[jhungary]

The gist I got from our PJs at MacDill was that they were impressed with the SF 'medics' at how much they were trained and how knowledgeable.

Well, depends.....

If we are talking about 18D (SF Medic), they have a 57 weeks MOS qualification course, which last for 13 months and is all about medical training, for a normal medic (68W) they have 16 weeks of advance EMT and Paramedic Training....You can see the different.

I think PJ is more about Aviation Medicine, which is related to aircrew and aviation related injuries and wounds, that is something 18D would not know, where the Army are more general branch and they will have to cover anything. and if I remember correctly, the PJ medical phase is only about 20 or 30 weeks. So essentially, they are SF qualified Paramedics.

But that is just the enlisted, SF doctor do exist, both Air Force and Army have officer in Special Force branch, and there are quite a few 18A were fully trained doctor I know of, also, some time combat surgeon were attached to SF unit as well. Same deal with PJs I guess.

This is very interesting. Does any other country's SF include a doctor rather than your regular soldier with basic medical training?

There are fully qualified MD who serve in SF capacity, they are either attached to the unit (So they must be airborne tabbed) or they went thru the selection and become a 18A (Special Force Officer)

I know of 2 doctors (Fully trained MD) who serve with 5th SFG

 

[noksss]

@Star Wars @PARIKRAMA @Abingdonboy @COLDHEARTED AVIATOR

Guys plz post the link for the video

 

[utraash]

@PARIKRAMA @Abingdonboy @COLDHEARTED AVIATOR

Pls post the link as i could not see yesterday....

 

[Skrull]

@PARIKRAMA @Abingdonboy @COLDHEARTED AVIATOR

Pls post the link as i could not see yesterday....

Sorry but Its Not available in this country

 

[Hellfire]

The training is EQUIVALENT to that of an emergency room doctor. I doubt if the specialist himself is certified by any civilian standards as a full fledged doctor. Just that the medical training is more intensive than the average medic.

You do realize we have medical officers that is Doctors embedded? Trained and qualified. Additionally your corpsman is replicated as Nursing Assistant.

Additionally, to your other points, we gave Special Forces, Para units, SFF units and Special Group.

Language training is a continuous and ongoing process. A particular group requires the officer cadre to do specialization to country/region specific, a proper formal education on the country, it's customs, history, religious practices as also a proper language course. It maybe Farsi, Arabic, Pasto, mandarin, Tibetan etc, depending on requirements.

Those 36 hours Probation Without Water or Food My god!!!

Gutter 5 hours Was I was Feeling vomit

Running 3 rounds in circle of 3.5 KM With 70-80Kg Including 25Kg Backpack And 7Kg Rifle in It was In human
was Hardest

After that Without rest Water Training With Both Hands And Leg Tied I'm feeling Weak Like i'm Sub Human

36 hours only? I didn't see it. But they were kind to show only 36 hours? Bloody sadists ...... 168 hours of pure hell is zero effing week

The main difference between PARA (SF) and Garud/MARCOs selection/training is that PARA (SF) only recruit from active duty soldiers who have to be reccommended by their COs to be sent for selection in the first place meaning that PARA (SF) recruits will already have undergone extensive screening and training before they even get to the SF selection test.

May I just put up edit?

The colored bold and underlined part - any Officer or PBOR can volunteer on day 1 or even at training center itself, to serve in Para/ Para SF.

The CO or OC of unit needs only to counter sign the application to verify the personal particulars. The volunteer can not be stopped by CO. His/Her recommendation is not required, only signature to attest application and forward it. Even if co does not recommend, under army orders issued by coas, the volunteer is called for probation

Thanks

 

[Skrull]

36 hours only? I didn't see it. But they were kind to show only 36 hours? Bloody sadists ...... 168 hours of pure hell is zero effing week

There are Many Aspects Basically its Paratrooper training
Many obstacles were Present

36 Hours Non stop Training Without Food And Water
Which has 5 Qualification course

After that 100 KM run With 35 KG Gear in 12 Hours

Only Probation training Shown in Documentary Which is 3 Months or 90 Days Consist Many Aspects

After that 7 months of Advanced Course For Para Special Forces

 

[Local_Legend]

You do realize we have medical officers that is Doctors embedded? Trained and qualified. Additionally your corpsman is replicated as Nursing Assistant.

@Abhi Foxtrot ... Is that video uploaded by you ?

 

[AUz]

Still far inferior to SSGs...lol