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An old article, but enough to open eyes of those who think Pakistan is NOT a US ally in War on Terror.
I'm sure this thread will be locked soon as well. People here can't digest the truth

CIA drones quit one Pakistan site – but US keeps access to other airbases

A 2006 Google Earth image accidentally reveals US drones at Shamsi
Despite its very public withdrawal from Shamsi airfield at the weekend, the United States continues to have access to a number of military airfields inside Pakistan – including at least one from which armed drones are able to operate, the Bureau understands.


The first concrete indications have also emerged that the US has now effectively suspended its drone strikes in Pakistan. The Bureau’s own data registers no CIA strikes since November 17.

Islamabad is furious in the wake of a NATO attack which recently killed 24 Pakistani soldiers on its Afghan borders
Islamabad is furious in the wake of a NATO attack which recently killed 24 Pakistani soldiers on its Afghan borders. As well as suspending NATO supply convoys through Pakistan, anti-aircraft missiles have also reportedly been moved to the border with Afghanistan. Pakistan also demanded that the US withdraw from Shamsi, a major airfield in Balochistan controlled and run by the Americans since late 2001.


US Predator and Reaper drones have operated from the isolated airbase for many years. Technically the base is leased to Abu Dhabi in the United Arab Emirates, which allowed Pakistan to deny a US presence for many years. Now the US has quit Shamsi, with large US transporter planes stripping military hardware from the base.

But the US will continue to have access to at least five other Pakistani military facilities, according to a Pakistani source with extensive knowledge of US-Pakistani military and intelligence co-operation.

US controlOne of those bases is Shahbaz at Jacobabad, the first home of US surveillance drones in Pakistan. Armed CIA drones have operated there for some years, the source said. It is not yet clear whether, if the US resumes drone strikes, attacks will again be launched from Shahbaz.

During lethal heavy flooding in autumn 2010, Pakistan’s health minister Khusnood Lashari protested publiclythat Pakistan could not use Jacobabad’s airport to deliver food aid. ‘Health relief operations are not possible in the flood-affected areas of Jacobabad because the airbase is with the United States,’ he told parliament.

The US denied at the time that it controlled Shahbaz. According to the Bureau’s source this is technically correct. The Pakistan Army provides an outer protective layer for the base. But around 50 American military personnel provide an inner security cordon for a US-only area.

The Bureau’s well-placed source revealed that the US military will continue to have access to at least five military bases in Pakistan.

These include:

  • Shahbaz/Jacobabad – original location for US drones inside Pakistan. Armed CIA drones may still operate from here
  • Chaklala – a Pakistan Air Force base near Islamabad with a permanent US military presence. The base handles US logistics and other movements. Around 300 troops were based there during Pakistan’s 2005 floods, for example
  • Quetta – A Pakistan Air Force base which previously featured heavily in US logistical operations. Although there is now no permanent US presence, the Pentagon is able to make use of the base ‘as and when’
  • Tarbela – This Pakistan Special Forces base, between Rawalpindi and Peshawr, is described by the source as ‘just a big helipad, really.’ US Chinook helicopters have been stationed here, for example during the 2010 floods
  • Peshawar – a Pakistan Air Force base, the site handles logistics. On occasion US troops have landed transited from here to other locations

The US has been asked to leave Shamsi as part of a face-saving operation in the wake of NATO’s deadly attack, the Bureau’s source believes: ‘Shamsi is the public face of drone strikes in Pakistan, so it had to go.’

According to reports, Islamabad is trying to negotiate a new settlement with the US which would allow CIA drone strikes to continue ‘only on the basis of Pakistani intelligence and a firm assurance that there will be no unilateral military action.’

Whatever its situation within Pakistan the CIA will also continue to operate from a number of secret bases on the Afghan side of the border, including Forward Operating Base Chapman – the scene in December 2009 of a devastating Taliban counter-attack which killed seven CIA agents involved in the drone campaign.

Campaign on hold
The Bureau’s own data shows no CIA drone strikes in Pakistan since November 17, nine days before NATO’s blunder. There have been similar pauses during other fraught periods, for example during the Raymond Davis case earlier this year.


On Monday the Long War Journal reported that the drone campaign is on hold. It cited a US intelligence official as saying: ‘There is concern that another hit [by the drones] will push US-Pakistan relations past the point of no return. We don’t know how far we can push them [Pakistan], how much more they are willing to tolerate.’

A second official told LWJ that the US retained the option to strike if ‘an extremely high value target pops up.’

Lt Colonel James Gregory, a senior Pentagon spokesperson, declined to comment on the specifics of the Bureau’s report.

However, in relation to the Shamsi withdrawal he said: ‘It’s important to add that the United States and Pakistan have had a long and complicated relationship, but even as we have differed on a number of important issues, our cooperation in the future remains vital to dealing with the common threats we face from terrorism.’
 
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AMERICAN DON'T HAVE ACCESS TO ANY AIR FORCE BASE FOR SURE !
Lols, for sure? Who told you? ISPR?
The 2 helis that came for OBL also came from Tarbela :p
I can vouch for this report. A friend of mine (squadron leader, paf) is stationed in chaklala and tells me its normal

btw,google it..
the plane that carried ramsha masih was also operated by US state dept.
 
Lols, for sure? Who told you? ISPR?
The 2 helis that came for OBL also came from Tarbela :p
I can vouch for this report. A friend of mine (squadron leader, paf) is stationed in chaklala and tells me its normal

btw,google it..
the plane that carried ramsha masih was also operated by US state dept.

Did that PAF Squadron leader also tell you that you can post in the open forum? I guess he knows you too well or doesn't
 
Did that PAF Squadron leader also tell you that you can post in the open forum? I guess he knows you too well or doesn't

Well, it is the truth. Why hide it? What difference is between us and them? They (terrorists) lie, and gain from propaganda. If we stick to the truth, we can defeat them! (in the short run I may agree with your logic, but trust me,in the long run truth prevails)
 
Well, it is the truth. Why hide it? What difference is between us and them? They (terrorists) lie, and gain from propaganda. If we stick to the truth, we can defeat them! (in the short run I may agree with your logic, but trust me,in the long run truth prevails)

I dont think we allow drones from our soil any longer, unless you have proof otherwise please dont spread historic or false information based on what an official said out of your context.
 
I am sure they are still in Pakistan. Not only armed drones, but blackwater, CIA, you name it they are all there. That's the reason why they had PPP & PML-N installed in Pakistan, to work freely without any trouble.
 
The Americans have already said that Pakistan would continue to get millions of $$$ even after their withdrawal from Afghanistan. Why? Elementary Dr Watson! The answer is in the opening post!

Off course bro!

And if we say no, Indians will be jumping up and down in front of uncle sam, shrieking "pick me, pick me, pick me".

Just like Indians offered bases back in 2001.
 
there is no free lunch... due you believe that US, a capitalist country, will give you billions of dollar without getting anything in return ?

Off course bro!

And if we say no, Indians will be jumping up and down in front of uncle sam, shrieking "pick me, pick me, pick me".

Just like Indians offered bases back in 2001.

when this happened.. as a matter of fact musharaff was in a shit after getting a call from washington
 
Off course bro!

And if we say no, Indians will be jumping up and down in front of uncle sam, shrieking "pick me, pick me, pick me".

Just like Indians offered bases back in 2001.
Arre bhai Fauji, having American bases in India is impossible! You know how this cacophonous democracy works! The sound and fury especially by the Communists and Congress at this very thought would be unimaginable! And needless to say, our fukin' media will go berserk led by none other than our very own big-mouth - Arnab Goswami!! :blah:
 
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when this happened.. as a matter of fact musharaff was in a shit after getting a call from washington

Who in the US gov called Musharraf from Washington.

Let's here a bit more than rumors?

Arre bhai Fauji, having American bases in India is impossible! You know how this cacophonous democracy works! The sound and fury especially by the Communists and Congress at this very thought would be unimaginable! And needless to say, our fukin' media will go berserk led by none other than our very own big-mouth - Arnab Goswami!! :blah:

Indians offered.

USA refused.
 

Neither you nor Fauja Singh above is correct.
And @majesticpankaj, this is for you too.


Read the article clearly. It says "he said this could involve the use of indian air bases and ports, logistical support, medical aid and other "humanitarian" assistance".
In the event, only over-flight and re-fuelling was extended and accepted. No Drones being allowed to fly off and attack people was offered or allowed. Actually, in reality twice American Overflights were then intercepted and forced to land on Indian Airports. One was an American Aircraft with American Soldiers in it and the other was a Russian Chartered aircraft with American Eqpt. in it. Because they did not comply with the mandatory requirements of filing advance flight-plans and then following correct reporting procedures.

So do not become a party to spreading "misinformation" here.
Mr.FaujiHistorian can change in to Mr.FarjiHistorian whenever he wants to. There is no reason for you to do the same.
 
Neither you nor Fauja Singh above is correct.
And @majesticpankaj, this is for you too.


Read the article clearly. It says "he said this could involve the use of indian air bases and ports, logistical support, medical aid and other "humanitarian" assistance".
In the event, only over-flight and re-fuelling was extended and accepted. No Drones being allowed to fly off and attack people was offered or allowed. Actually, in reality twice American Overflights were then intercepted and forced to land on Indian Airports. One was an American Aircraft with American Soldiers in it and the other was a Russian Chartered aircraft with American Eqpt. in it. Because they did not comply with the mandatory requirements of filing advance flight-plans and then following correct reporting procedures.

So do not become a party to spreading "misinformation" here.
Mr.FaujiHistorian can change in to Mr.FarjiHistorian whenever he wants to. There is no reason for you to do the same.
Sorry I did not read the full article. Thanks for info.

@majesticpankaj
Sorry bro. my bad.:-)
 

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