Chinese UAV News & Discussions (Strictly)

[aliaselin]

Are there any sources that indicate the WL-II's max payload (non-export variant)?

No, but a poster has shown that the maximum take-of weight of WL-II is 4,200 kg. A UAV with 4.2 T maximum take-off weight has a playload of 480 kg? Then that should be designed by some amateurs, not expert from 611. You can find this inconsistency from ratio of playload to maximum take-off weight by comparing several UAVs, such as reaper - 0.26~0.36, CH-4 - 0.3
Moreover, how could a UAV with 480 kg playload takes 250 kg bomb when a minimum of a number larger than 500 is needed?

 

[Akasa]

No, but a poster has shown that the maximum take-of weight of WL-II is 4,200 kg. A UAV with 4.2 T maximum take-off weight has a playload of 480 kg? Then that should be designed by some amateurs, not expert from 611. You can find this inconsistency from ratio of playload to maximum take-off weight by comparing several UAVs, such as reaper - 0.26~0.36, CH-4 - 0.3
Moreover, how could a UAV with 480 kg playload takes 250 kg bomb when a minimum of a number larger than 500 is needed?

Interesting; thanks for the numbers.

 

[IblinI]

No greater playload. Wingloong II can take more than 1 t of playload while CH5 only 900 kg. Greater endurance is simply because CH5 has used a much lower power engine

480KG is only for export version,due to the treaty.

 

[zestokryl]

480 kg is restricted by MTCR

I beleive you, but that crap is not something China should put up with


Drone combat missions are very specific, since they aresigned basically for surgical strikes. For example restriction is 480 kg and drone can carry 700 or 800 kg. So difference is 200 or 300 kg wich, which deprives drone of at least two more missiles or at least 4 high precission small missiles. And those missiles are something very precious in a war against insurgency. No one will use those against civilians, when drone payload is already limited in the current stage of drone development


Limitations would have made sence if the payload is say 4000 kg, and this limited to 2000 kg, since the difference its a lot of weight. But cutting 800 kg to 480 is ludicrous since the difference is marginal and hinders drones role in modern warfare


That is something being decided by some idiot in Washington. No way they can now genuine drone specs and all the missile and bomb types, developed for it. So there are ways to look other way, when it comes to the terms of this idiotic treaty

 

[Deino]

Hmmm just noticed this report: about a twin-engine Wing Loong 3 ???

...
The Wing Loong 3 was not exhibited, with only an AVIC brochure detailing its capabilities. Unlike the Wing Loong 1/2’s rear single propeller engine and V-tail configuration, the Wing Loong 3 had no V-tail and it was outfitted with two rear propeller engines.

According to AVIC, the Wing Loong 3 has a considerable increase in strike mission capability over the Wing Loong 2. Its mission payload is 700kg and it has a 200km LOS range or 3,000km using satellite communications.
...

https://www.shephardmedia.com/news/uv-online/zhuhai-2016-china-extends-wing-loong-family/

Anyone with more information or even an image ??

Deino

 

[zestokryl]

http://www.eastpendulum.com/airshow-china-2016-drones-premiere

This article claim, that unlike WL II, CH 5 has a piston engine with the 300 HP max. power

Is this true ? Such a big drone, propelled , by the PISTON engine and only 300 HP ?

 

[AlyxMS]

http://www.eastpendulum.com/airshow-china-2016-drones-premiere

This article claim, that unlike WL II, CH 5 has a piston engine with the 300 HP max. power

Is this true ? Such a big drone, propelled , by the PISTON engine and only 300 HP ?

Drones do not fly very fast, rarely exceeding 250kph.
Their insane aspect ratio(Very long wings) provides a great lift coefficient at low speed. Which means the drone can stay in air at low speed with very low fuel consumption. Which is good for endurance.

If you watch some videos of drone taking off, you'll see that it is very slow. It is because they only needed such little power to stay in air. If a 600hp engine is to be installed, it would be less fuel efficent, reducing the endurance. And it would use up the precious weight and space that could be used for fuel/weapon/sensors.

300hp seems rather reasonable.

 

[Beast]

 

[cirr]

Hmmm just noticed this report: about a twin-engine Wing Loong 3 ???



https://www.shephardmedia.com/news/uv-online/zhuhai-2016-china-extends-wing-loong-family/

Anyone with more information or even an image ??

Deino

Fly-wing

 

[mehboobkz]

http://topyaps.com/china-powerful-drone-bomber-ch-5-india

China has unveiled its most powerful drone bomber, the CH-5 unmanned aerial vehicle. China displayed the drone to public for the first time at a military air show in the southern city of Zhuhai.

The CH-5 can fly for two days without refuelling within a range of 15,000 miles. The drone made its first flight last year and appears to be based on the US MQ-9 reaper.

According to The Daily Star, it is capable of carrying smart bombs, missiles and high-tech radar jammers.
China is claiming that CH-5 has superior tech specs to equivalent US models. It says it “can perform whatever operations the MQ-9 Reaper can, and is even better than the US vehicle when it comes to flight duration and operational efficiency.”

The drone has a wingspan of 21 meters and can stay in the air for 60 hours. It has a maximum range of 6,500 km. China will be soon expand its range to 10,000 km and 120 hours of flight, giving it the longest range of all hunter-killer drones. It will also carry about 1,000 kg of equipment and up to 24 missiles.
If compared, the MQ-9 Reaper, which has been in service since 2007, can fly for 27 hours, and has a wingspan of 20 meters. China says that it is ready not only to export the drone, but also to license the technology to make it.
According to Shi Wen, chief designer of the CH series at China Academy of Aerospace Aerodynamics, CH-5 can make a joint strike with its predecessors, the CH-3 and CH-4, because they can share the same data link and control system.

The development of CH-5 is clear sign of China’s military technology getting sophisticated with every passing year.

With its powerful capabilities, China can easily use them in spying missions over large territories in its neighbourhood including India.

At present, India has a fleet of over 200 drones bought from Israel and they are deployed on both eastern front with China and western front with Pakistan.

 

[grey boy 2]

Fix- Wing UAV Swarm Prototype "Future UAV battle tactic"
在珠海航展中国电科展台，惊现了固定翼无人机集群实验原型视频。视频中的无人机集群演练，已呈现出未来无人机作战的战术雏形。

 

[grey boy 2]

Fix- Wing UAV Swarm Prototype "Future UAV battle tactic"
在珠海航展中国电科展台，惊现了固定翼无人机集群实验原型视频。视频中的无人机集群演练，已呈现出未来无人机作战的战术雏形。

 

[grey boy 2]

 

[YeBeWarned]

is this the same Drone which was crashed during a test flight in Pakistan ? few months back... @Arsalan

 

[Arsalan]

is this the same Drone which was crashed during a test flight in Pakistan ? few months back... @Arsalan

No. It is a CH-5. We do not have these. Yet!