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China Dominates the World TOP500 Supercomputers

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I saw from many western news report this and many of western losers cannot accept this reality. Some has the typical claim of Chinese stole their technology. Ya!! We stole a technology you yourself can't even build :lol:

I can bet many of the are killing themselves over this. :enjoy:
 
China beating China. Now that's what I would call a competition to watch. China, let's beat China again.

@TaiShang

"It's really good to see China beating China." lol.

I like to see more of this. :lol:

In 2001, China had no supercomputers in the Top500 list. Today, China has 167 entries compared with 165 for the U.S.

This new beast is built with Chinese home grown chips!

Great achievement in the last 15 years. Keep it up.
 
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@C130

Ok I lose.

I made donation to Virunga national park for mountain gorillas as diane fossey foundation didnt accept my card.

here is receipt

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$69.55 Aud because of poor exchange rates.

In my heart China still wins :)

Rubbish :disagree:

The Sunway TaihuLight at the National Supercomputing Center in Wuxi hit 93 petaflops/second on the Linpack benchmark and a theoretical peak performance of 125.4 Pflop/s. It uses 40,960 Sunway SW26010 processors designed by the Shanghai High Performance IC Design Center.

http://www.eetimes.com/document.asp?doc_id=1329941

Don't make a mountain out of your ignorance. The 200-300 Pflop/s machine will be the upgrade of Tianhe-2A. :lol:

Wait a minute, does this mean that the new supercomputer "hit over 100 petaflops"?

Technically @C130 lost the bet (that it will break 100 petaflops)?

I bet that China will pass 100 petaflops while C130 bet that China will fail. Who is right? Regardless I already payed but if I could get him to pay as well that is even better!
 
China builds world’s fastest supercomputer without U.S. chips

China on Monday revealed its latest supercomputer, a monolithic system with 10.65 million compute cores built entirely with Chinese microprocessors. This follows a U.S. government decision last year to deny China access to Intel's fastest microprocessors.

There is no U.S.-made system that comes close to the performance of China's new system, the Sunway TaihuLight. Its theoretical peak performance is 124.5 petaflops, according to the latest biannual release today of the world's Top500 supercomputers. It is the first system to exceed 100 petaflops. A petaflop equals one thousand trillion (one quadrillion) sustained floating-point operations per second.

The most important thing about Sunway TaihuLight may be its microprocessors. In the past, China has relied heavily on U.S. microprocessors in building its supercomputing capacity. The world's next fastest system, China's Tianhe-2, which has a peak performance of 54.9 petaflops, uses Intel Xeon processors.

TaihuLight, which is installed at China's National Supercomputing Center in Wuxi, uses ShenWei CPUs developed by Jiangnan Computing Research Lab in Wuxi. The operating system is a Linux-based Chinese system called Sunway Raise.

The TaihuLight is "very impressive," said Jack Dongarra, a professor of computer science at the University of Tennessee and one of the academic leaders of the Top500 supercomputing list, in a report about the new system.

TaihuLight is running "sizeable applications," which include advanced manufacturing, earth systems modeling, life science and big data applications, said Dongarra. This "shows that the system is capable of running real applications and [is] not just a stunt machine," Dongarra said.

It has been long known that China was developing a 100-plus petaflop system, and it was believed that China would turn to U.S. chip technology to reach this performance level. But just over a year ago, in a surprising move, the U.S. banned Intel from supplying Xeon chips to four of China's top supercomputing research centers.

The U.S. initiated this ban because China, it claimed, was using its Tianhe-2 system for nuclear explosive testing activities. The U.S. stopped live nuclear testing in 1992 and now relies on computer simulations. Critics in China suspected the U.S. was acting to slow that nation's supercomputing development efforts.

national strategic computing initiative" with the goal of maintaining an "economic leadership position" in high-performance computing research.

The U.S. order seemed late. China has been steadily building its supercomputing capacity, which included efforts to develop its own microprocessors. It produced a relatively small supercomputer in 2011 that relied on homegrown processors, but its big systems continued to rely on U.S. processors.

There has been nothing secretive about China's intentions. Researchers and analysts have been warning all along that U.S. exascale (an exascale is 1,000 petaflops) development, supercomputing's next big milestone, was lagging.

It's not just China that is racing ahead. Japan and Russia have their own development efforts. Europe is building supercomputers using ARM processors, and, similar to China, wants to decrease its dependency on U.S.-made chips.

China's government last week said it plans to build an exascale system by 2020. The U.S. has targeted 2023.

China now has more supercomputers in the Top500 list than the U.S., said Dongarra. "China has 167 systems on the June 2016 Top500 list compared to 165 systems in the U.S," he said, in an email. Ten years ago, China had 10 systems on the list.

Of all the supercomputers represented on the global list, the sum of the China supercomputers performance (211 petaflops) has exceeded the performance of the supercomputers in the U.S., (173 petaflops)
represented on this list. The list doesn't represent the universe of all supercomputers in the U.S. None of the supercomputers used by intelligence agencies, for instance, are represented on this list.
"This is the first time the U.S. has lost the lead," said Dongarra, in the total number of systems on the Top500 list.

China's work is also winning global peer recognition. It's work on TaihuLight has resulted in three submissions selected as finalists for supercomputing's prestigious Gordon Bell Award, named for a pioneer in high-performance computing.

The fastest U.S. supercomputer, number 3 on the Top500 list, is the Titan, a Cray supercomputer at U.S. Dept. of Energy's Oak Ridge National Laboratory with a theoretical peak of about 27 petaflops.

Whether the U.S. chip ban accelerated China's resolve to develop its own microprocessor technology is a question certain to get debate. But what is clear is China's longstanding goal to end reliance on U.S. technology.

"The Chinese were already determined over time to move to an indigenous processor," said Steve Conway, a high performance computing analyst at IDC. "I think the ban accelerates that -- it increases that determination," he said.

HPC has become increasingly important in the economy. Once primarily the domain of big science research, national security and high-end manufacturing such as airplane design, HPC's virtualization and big data analysis capabilities have made it critical in almost every industry. Manufacturers of all sizes, increasingly, are using supercomputers to design products virtually instead of building prototypes. Supercomputer are also used in applications such as fraud detection and big data analysis.

HPC has is now "so strategic that you really don't want to rely on foreign sources for it," said Conway.
 
@C130

Ok I lose.

I made donation to Virunga national park for mountain gorillas as diane fossey foundation didnt accept my card.

here is receipt

4hSNKt5.png


$69.55 Aud because of poor exchange rates.

In my heart China still wins :)



Wait a minute, does this mean that the new supercomputer "hit over 100 petaflops"?

Technically @C130 lost the bet (that it will break 100 petaflops)?

I bet that China will pass 100 petaflops while C130 bet that China will fail. Who is right? Regardless I already payed but if I could get him to pay as well that is even better!


you must love Gorillas :D a rare silverback gorilla was killed in my city not long ago.

the bet was Rmax not Rpeak, no one uses Rpeak to describe the power of a supercomputer

you'll see 93 everywhere instead of 125. So I knew it would be over 100 Pflop Rpeak by doing the math, but I also factored in that Rmax would be about 20% lower going by Tianhe-2 Rmax to Rpeak


so I was wondering what would it take for the U.S to beat Taihulight right now and the simple answer is 27,000 Tesla P100!!! that right there get's you 127 Pflops at 6.75MW add in a few thousand POWER8+ and you get at least 130+Pflops Rpeak and about 95 to 100 Pflop Rmax

the Tesla P100 alone would cost $110 million assuming $4,000 each. by re-using Titan cabinets and what not the price shouldn't be more than $150 million for the whole system

but sigh we are waiting for the big dogs in 2017/18 I wouldn't be surprised if Volta offers 8 Tflops DP each :D
 
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http://www.computerworld.com/articl...-fastest-supercomputer-without-u-s-chips.html

China builds world’s fastest supercomputer without U.S. chips

It's not just China that is racing ahead. Japan and Russia have their own development efforts. Europe is building supercomputers using ARM processors, and, similar to China, wants to decrease its dependency on U.S.-made chips.

The TaihuLight is "very impressive," said Jack Dongarra, a professor of computer science at the University of Tennessee and one of the academic leaders of the Top500 supercomputing list, in a report about the new system.

TaihuLight is running "sizeable applications," which include advanced manufacturing, earth systems modeling, life science and big data applications, said Dongarra. This "shows that the system is capable of running real applications and [is] not just a stunt machine," Dongarra said.

http://www.computerworld.com/articl...-fastest-supercomputer-without-u-s-chips.html
 
you must love Gorillas :D a rare silverback gorilla was killed in my city not long ago.
the bet was Rmax not Rpeak, no one uses Rpeak to describe the power of a supercomputer

you'll see 93 used not 125. I knew it would go over 100 Pflop Rpeak by doing the math, but I factored in that Rmax would be about 20% lower going by Tianhe-2 numbers


so I was wondering what would it take for the U.S to beat Taihulight right now and the simple answer is 27,000 Tesla P100 that right there get's you 127 Pflops at 6.75GW add in a few thousand POWER8+ and you got at least 130+Pflops

the Tesla P100 alone would cost $110 million assuming $4,000 each. re-using Titan cabinets and what not the price shouldn't be more than $150 million for the whole system

but sigh we are waiting for the big dogs in 2017/18/ I wouldn't be surprised if Volta offers 8 Tflops DP each :D

dude, I cant tell a petaflop from a floppy penguin.

Computers are well outside my field of work and what I majored in (accounting).

That gorilla should not have been killed. It was a shameful dispray.
 
:lol:

China now has more supercomputers in the Top500 list than the U.S., said Dongarra. "China has 167 systems on the June 2016 Top500 list compared to 165 systems in the U.S," he said, in an email. Ten years ago, China had 10 systems on the list.

Of all the supercomputers represented on the global list, the sum of the China supercomputers performance (211 petaflops) has exceeded the performance of the supercomputers in the U.S., (173 petaflops) represented on this list.

http://www.computerworld.com/articl...-fastest-supercomputer-without-u-s-chips.html

:lol:
 

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