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David Cameron’s decision to take three of his four most senior Cabinet colleagues with him to New Delhi next week, along with his higher education minister, marks a historic moment in almost 400 years of British engagement with India. It gives ceremony to a state of affairs that has been the case for some time but not, until now, acknowledged: we need India more than it needs us.

For those of you whose most recent glimpse of India was the brutal poverty shown in Slumdog Millionaire, or believed you had just elected a government committed to clamping down on south Asian immigration, think again and steel yourselves: Mr Cameron’s visit with the largest senior Cabinet delegation in recent memory heralds the arrival of an Indian century.

His aim is not just to win contracts for British firms, but to establish a strategic relationship in which our scientists, engineers, designers and entrepreneurs will work with their Indian counterparts and combine British innovation and Indian costs to sell to the rest of the world.

India is the world’s second fastest-growing economy. It is expected to overtake China as the fastest-growing within 40 years, and also replace it as the world’s greatest population with more than two billion people by 2050. As its population rises, so too will its number of highly educated graduates and skilled engineers – already qualifying at the rate of 160,000 per year.

The pressing need to “partner” India was explained to me two years ago by a professor heading a series of collaborations between British and Indian university research departments and technology companies. They were hoping to develop revolutionary communications systems which could run on minimal electricity and store sensitive data securely in disaster-proof circumstances. “It is better to help them develop now than be overtaken and alone later,” he said.

Mr Cameron appears to have decided, wisely, that the project needs an injection of urgency: Britain’s snail-like recovery:P has not eased fears of a double-dip recession, while Indian growth is expected to push on from nine per cent.

If you’re still not persuaded that the Indians are coming, consider another random collection of persuasive facts: Singapore will become an Indian city if its Tamil population continues doubling at the current rate, Britain’s largest manufacturer (Tata, owner of Jaguar Land Rover and Corus steel) is Indian, India’s 700 companies in the UK are our largest job creators, UK businesses owned by British Indians generate £10 billion in turnover, and our richest man, Lakshmi Mittal is an Indian.

All of which explain why David Cameron will arrive in India on Tuesday with William Hague, George Osborne, Vince Cable and David Willetts to genuflect before the “emperors” of the new Raj and try to persuade them we may be of some use.

The scale and symbolism of the gesture hasn’t gone unnoticed. “It’s not a question of perception. David Cameron is on record that he would like an enhanced partnership with India, to deepen and diversify the economic engagement and this has registered with us, it came across clearly and it’s fully reciprocated,” India’s Commerce Minister Anand Sharma told The Daily Telegraph earlier this week.

Politically it marks a sea-change after the last government, which will be appreciated by India, according to Mark Runacres, head of the British Business Group in New Delhi. “We shouldn’t underestimate the political stuff here. The Indians will have come away from the Labour administration feeling that they prefer dealing with the Right than the Left. This manifests itself on issues like Kashmir. There’s a rumbling sense that the more liberal people focus on more sensitive political issues and less on hard business. There was a feeling that with Gordon Brown, China was more front of mind than India. The political message of an enormous delegation is taken as going the extra mile,” he said.

The most memorable contrast is with the visit of the boyish then foreign secretary David Milliband, who lectured ministers about the need to find a solution with Pakistan to their dispute over Kashmir while India was still in shock from the devastating terrorist attack on Mumbai. He made matters worse by appearing to patronise India’s then foreign minister rather than show the traditional respect due to elders.


India’s rapid growth is partly explained by the relationship between its increasingly wealthy middle class . It has both an inexhaustible supply of cruelly cheap labour in the service of a vast, English-speaking, college-educated middle class with access to large amounts of capital. The greatest fortunes in India are being made selling dirt cheap mobile phones to rickshaw pullers earning less than £3 per day, water-purifyers to those earning slightly more, and motorbikes to those described as middle-class yet earn less than £200 per month (household servants and drivers).

While the country’s breakneck “development” is enjoyed by many, it is also the cause of great unhappiness and rebellion in tribal, rural areas and its Hindi-speaking conservative “cow-belt”.

Besides next week’s show of intense respect with Mr Cameron’s Cabinet delegation, ministers have been stressing our “shared history” in the British Empire and the links continued by Britain’s 1.5 million people of Indian origin. Some in India believe he is wrong to dwell on a colonial past in which Britain dominated India and treated it as a child in need of guidance.

But according to Pavan K Varma, India’s leading cultural analyst and its ambassador to Bhutan, Britain is still regarded with warmth despite conquering the subcontinent. “One of its legacies is that there is in the Indian psyche more goodwill than [between] India and France or India and Germany, and that contributes to a closer relationship with Britain in terms of emotional bondage.

“There is goodwill, nostalgia, and comprehension through language which needs to be capitalised upon with dynamism,” he said. “The problem is that the UK is no longer a super-power and it must deal with that.”
 
come on man....why india need relationship with british, did they firget jallianwallah bagh tragedy......i wish india dont co-operate with brits
 
come on man....why india need relationship with british, did they firget jallianwallah bagh tragedy......i wish india dont co-operate with brits

Thats narrow minded thinking. if we think like that, we will have few people to co-operate with. Besides jallianwallah wasnt done by this british government. look at the chinese, they engaged the japaneseh and americans in trade despite a bloody past with them, and they reaped the benefits.

When it comes to international politics, we shouldnt be emotional. if we have something to gain by engaging the british, we should. the emotional are always taken advantage of in international politics. we should follow the chinese in this aspect. guard all emotion, and just engage in what benefits us.

Past is past, we should look to the future.
 
come on man....why india need relationship with british, did they firget jallianwallah bagh tragedy......i wish india dont co-operate with brits

Americans Bombed Hiroshima and Nagasaki. Japan and America are the best of allies.
 
Pakistan must crack down on all terror groups, says Cameron

Sandeep Dikshit

Foreign Minister-level talks covered lot of ground: Manmohan

NEW DELHI: In his first observations on the India-Pakistan Foreign Minister-level talks held on July 15 in Islamabad, Prime Minister Manmohan Singh said on Thursday that the discussions covered a lot of ground.

However, observations by Pakistan Foreign Minister Shah Mehmood Qureshi at a press conference that followed the meeting “distracted from the larger elements of the agreements reached between the Foreign Ministers of both countries.”

Addressing journalists with British Prime Minister David Cameron, Dr. Singh regretted the “way in which the press conference was handled.” But the discussions between the Foreign Ministers of India and Pakistan managed to “reach agreements on a large number of issues having a bearing on the bilateral ties.”

Hoping that Mr. Qureshi would accept the invitation to visit India, Dr. Singh was confident that both sides would “sooner or later restore dialogue to the proper sense of purpose.” Asked whether he was disappointed with the outcome of the talks, he said: “We are to close to events to pass a firm judgement on the outcome of the recent discussions.”

Answering another question, Dr. Singh hoped Pakistan would honour the commitments it gave to him and his predecessors on many occasions that terror from its territory would not be directed against India.

Asked what the international community would do to see that Pakistan did not export terror, especially to India, as stated by him in Bangalore on Wednesday, Mr. Cameron concurred with Dr. Singh's views and said Pakistan must crack down on or eliminate all terror groups, including the Lashkar-e-Taiba and various Taliban affiliates, operating on its soil.

At the same time, he said, Pakistan should be encouraged to take steps to see that terror was reduced. “We want to work with Pakistan to make it fight LeT and Afghan or Pakistan Taliban. The Pakistan government has taken steps and it needs to take further steps to reduce terrorism in Afghanistan and India and on the streets of London. I think the right thing is to have discussion with Pakistan frankly, clearly and openly. Next week, I will have discussions with the President of Pakistan.”

http://www.hindu.com/2010/07/30/stories/2010073056820100.htm
 
ISLAMABAD: Pakistan said today that it was "saddened" by remarks by British prime minister David Cameron that it was exporting terror, adding these did not reflect ground realities.

Pakistan is a key ally of the United States whose help is crucial for US efforts to stabilise neighbouring Afghanistan.

Cameron's remarks, yesterday during a visit to Pakistan's arch-rival India, came days before an expected visit by Pakistani president Asif Ali Zardari to Britain.

The Pakistani foreign ministry said Zardari would visit Britain despite Cameron's remarks.

"Obviously, we are saddened by prime minister Cameron's remarks in Bangalore to an Indian audience. These remarks are contrary to the facts on the ground," Pakistani foreign ministry spokesperson Abdul Basit told a news briefing.

Basit said Cameron's remarks were prompted by classified US military reports published by the whistle-blowing WikiLeaks Website.

Some of of the classified reports appear to reveal that Pakistan secretly aided Taliban militants while taking billions of dollars in US aid.

"You can never draw the right conclusions from misguided reports," Basit said.

"We should not be creating unnecessary hype around these reports and get distracted."

The 77,000 classified documents tangentially deal with Pakistan and the alleged involvement of its Inter-Services Intelligence (ISI) agency in the Afghan insurgency.

Washington has condemned the disclosures and said it could threaten US national security.

Basit said the international community had acknowledged Pakistan's efforts in the fight against militants linked to al-Qaeda and Taliban and it would remain unaffected by such accusations.

"This malicious campaign that has been going on now for years against Pakistan and against our security agencies -- particularly ISI -- cannot belittle our achievements and cannot blight our record against militants and violent extremists."

Pakistan 'saddened' by British PM David Cameron's remarks
 

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